Amazing what a negative response this site draws, and it's nothing but a site for people who want to enjoy swimming and still live up to their personal convictions. Maybe you don't like the suits, but nobody is forcing you to order. What ever happened to tolerance for people with differing views? Oh yeah, I guess it only applies if the different person is doing something immoral.

I bet they have great export sales with the optional bee-keeper bonnet?

Yes, I've "taken it a little too far"...that's why it's funny!

WOW I love these suits. No reason for a woman or girl to expose herself to play in the water. Sure if I could have told privacy I wouldn't necessarily want to be so well covered, but when I'm at a public lake or beach I don't want worry about exposing myself.

Sorry to ruin the fun those who enjoy watching the beautiful bodies at the beach, but I don't think a girl or woman should be out in public in her underwear and that's what most swimsuits look like.

I sicken me that so many young women today don't think their body is a special thing to only be shared with that special someone. Most take the attitude of either looking for the attention or figuring it doesn't mater.

Respectfully Kate, your comment has a logical flaw. Under your reasoning if everyone walked around naked, a little itty bitty bikini would attract people's attention. The website is correct in that it draws attention away from the "body"...more specifically, if I may a little explicit, it prevents a drooling guy from staring at a girls boobs and butt. You mistake attention the suit might bring for simply being out of the ordinary with inappropriate attention directed at a girl or woman's body parts. As to the Bible, I don't know what you mean by "complete prudery" but, it certainly advocates a level of modesty far greater than that which one would find these days at any public beach. There is nothing wrong with a woman or girl who would choose to wear these suits.

I purchsed one of these bathing suits and wear it without shame. I have gotten both negative and positive comments about it. People have reacted by mocking me, "I always wanted to swim in my clothes." But on one occasion a woman approached me and said, "You are giving glory to God by wearing that!" People can see that I am a Christian by merely what I wear, for the inside is clean and it is reflected on the outside.

I have a question. Since the purpose of the modest swimwear is to not draw attention to the body, why then is a "Slimming Swimmer" stlye needed? Why should it matter? Isn't "Gluttony" a sin too? If you are going to follow the Bible to the letter of the law, you cannot pick and choose which pieces fit your needs. If this is truly a swimsuit you enjoy and feel comfortable with, you should by all means wear it. However, to judge another as immoral because of their choice of swimsuits is also a sin. Especially if you know nothing of their Christian values.

They will not drown. The suits are made of materials and cut in such a manner that they do not impede one's ability to swim. If anything they will be more buoyant in the suits and less likely to drown.

I would love to be able to buy something like this for myself and my dd. I am praying to God to provide the finances. I am sure of this is what He wants us to wear, He will provide the means! :-)

I appreciate this company's attempt at modesty and applaud those who prefer to keep private things private. I can't say I would wear one of these suits, but I can recommend another company who makes modest swimwear that is also flattering. Check out Ohana Swimwear at www.ohanaswimwear.com. I bought one of their suits and have loved it. They believe in strong families with Christian values, and I have loved doing business with them.

Why should we stop at covering the body. Couldn't a man lust after a beautiful face just as easily? I think you need to follow the Muslims' example and put all your beautiful wives and daughters in burkas.

I am 19 years old. I have always been fairly well-covered when I have gone swimming. I agree with Don and Whitney that these swimsiuts have "taken it too far". Shapeliness is different from nudity. I see nothing wrong with clothes that reveal an attractive figure, as long as they are not provacatively tight (ie: jeans that attract the eyes to bulging buttocks.). However, I will not allow anything from cleavage to buttocks show in public. Most of the time, I wear board shorts for added comfort in case of "wedgie"-itis. I think this is a good guideline to follow when searching for a swimsuit. I have never had any negative feedback from this, whether teasing or scolding.

I think many of you are missing the point. We women cause men to sin (lust) when we wear revealing clothing. That includes shorts, jeans and even tight dresses. Ask your husband or brother what they TRULY notice. Jeans and shorts ephasize the crotch and butt areas. while tight dresses emphasize breasts etc. There is NOTHING wrong with keeping your body for your HUSBAND and yes that even includes covering your hair. Don't take my word for it, study Gods word. too many Christians have become worldly. Even men should be covered, not bare chested. christians need to walk the walk not just talk the talk. People should be able to look at us and see something different, inside and out! there is nothing wrong with courtship rather than casual dating either. those of us who have raised our daughters (and sons) to be pure until marriage dn't risk our children coming home to tell us they have aids, or are pregnant. My daughters have not died of embarrassment from being taught modesty. If your daughter was raised to dress immodestly by your example there is still time to change that. If you give a child $ to buy skimpy clothes you are condoning that type of "style". children are supposed to honor their parents, even if it means being told to cover up their bodies! I thought the Bible, not the Olymics set the standard for people?! why the Olympics? why not follow madonna? Our children are also not being raised to walk away from relationships when there is a problem. Caasual dating actually sets the scene for DIVORCE. Take a look at the values our society used to have, back when "bathing costumes" covered you from shoulder to thigh. Skin cancer, divorce and rape were almost unheard of. For those of you who attack these suits so vehmently think and pray about it. The Lord may be speaking to your conscience about your lack of modesty. You may not choose to wear them and that is unfortunate for you. However when you feel the need to attack those who choose to you are the one with the problem

I truly appreciate these swim suits. I am a 28 year old who can make my own decisions as to what i wear to swim in. I have always felt uncomfortable in the most "modest" swimwear I could find in retail stores. I believe that the Bible teaches modesty. I view it from the stand point of God's holiness. . . I am commanded, by the Bible, to be holy like God and set apart unto Him. His example of holiness is reflected in my life by refusing to look or act like the world. It is my Biblical responsibility to keep my self modest so as to not be the cause of lustful thoughts. If despite my best efforts at modesty someone lusts after me that is not my responsibility. But it is foolish of me to neglect my own responsibility.

I am amazed reading all the comments about your swimsuits!! People will justify anything at the cost of doing what they want, rather than what is commanded of them by God. Just because Olympic swimmers wear what they do, does not make it okay! We have been so influenced by today's standards that God"s standard's seem old fashion and out of date. Would you want to come face to face with Christ dressed in a skimpy swim suit? Oh, I hope not. Thanks for what you are doing

While I can appreciate modesty, I don't appreciate the underlying sexism of these suits. Why is it that these modest suits are only made for women? Why are women expected to attire themselves more conservatively than men? Or conversely, why aren't men afforded the opportunity to dress this modestly? (I'd totally love one of those 1920's-style male singlet suits).

Maybe it's because there's nothing 'old-fashioned' or 'moral' about these suits. Maybe they in fact represent a 'conservatism' that masks an underlying cultural violence to women - such as religious countries that mandate burquas for women. The type of societies that get glowing praise such as "Divorces were unheard of!" by conveniently ignoring the fact that they were "unheard of" because women were so marginalized in such a society that they couldn't seek a divorce when abused, or were too scared to because of the difficulty a single woman would have in such a wretched society.

The question here isn't whether or not modesty is good - it is much more obviously why does the modesty standard only seem to cut one way? This company is patently sexist.

(But really, I'm just venting my frustration that nobody provides swimwear for the modest MALE...)

I just want to let you know that I have NEVER had skin cancer, been divorced, or been raped by wearing a 'normal' swimming suit. AND since when do men not have self-control? Yes, women shouldn't use their bodies for attraction, but it's not just the women's problem. If we can put trust in men to lead our country, make our laws, and protect our freedoms, do they not have the capacity to control their thoughts and actions? I'm not saying that women shouldn't dress modestly. I choose to dress modestly, but I think a little bit of the pressure should be taken off the women of our society. We should all be accountable for our own actions.

I agree with Jean!! Women have to right to choose their swimming suits and i don't care if you think i am a bad person of wearing a normal swimming i wear a one piece, what's wrong with it? i would like to hear some remarks....ashley

I would only ask that my teenage daughter swim in what she feels comfortable. If this is the ONLY (and I mean ONLY) thing she felt comfortable in, then I would allow it.
Because of the way I've raised my child, I have a feeling that she will not feel comfortable in an itsy bitsy teeny weeny bikini (she's only 8 now). I never did. I preferred the men's board shorts and t-shirt no matter how svelte my figure was. However, I would NEVER force my child to dress like this.
It looks cumbersome and awkward at best.

I think the important thing is that your child be comfortable with who she is and what she was given. String bikins are not appropriate for teens, anyway. There is a comfortable compromise somewhere.

I am 16 year old Christian and have been looking for a modest swimsuit this whole year. I can say with almost full assurance, YOU WON'T FIND ONE IN A STORE! All those other girls can wear what they want, but I intend to get one of these suits. They are the nicest modest ones I've seen! Love 'em...

I would like to ask those who have posted complaints over the suits....Why are you so upset?! Why is there so much anger, resentment and criticism being spewed out to those who choose to live a life committed whole heartedly towards God?

Granted...it may not be the same walk you yourself may be on, but that's not the point is it? That's your personal walk...and this is theirs. [Sally: to address your point directly.In my understanding of religion...when one receives a "revelation" that is a burden in their heart to change a certain lifestyle choice....they may become less like the world in doing so (ie...covering her head, wearing dresses or deciding simply to refrain from piercing any body part), but the Bible does say "we are not of this world"...and yet...why do we try so hard to blend into it?]

I have admiration and love for those i see who go the extra mile and stand up and sometimes stand out for their Lord. I don't agree with every convinction someone may have been revealed to, but thats not my revelation...it is THEIR OWN. I do believe in the ones i've been shown myself...and I would be ashamed if i ever mocked or laughed at a person devoting their life so graciously to the God I love because their revelations about modesty are not hurting anyone....their choice to not show you their breasts when they go swimming is not a violent act, but on the contrary one made out of love.....its a compliment they choose to live so dedicately in his service...after all he was brutally murdered & humiliated for our sins...wearing a bathing suit that doesn't show off your breasts and thighs leaving little to the imagination isn't much to give him in return as a "Thank You"

Isn't loving the "Church" of Christ what we all are supposed to agree upon? *We* are the Church. It's time to love.

Reading some of your comments leaves me with such a creepy feeling in my stomach. I don't have any clever comments or retorts to make. Truly disturbing, the way a lot of you think. (" All of my brothers and Father approve of it." and "Please do not cause our christain (or nonchristian)brothers too sin by looking lustfully at you."). Actually, I feel more sad than creeped-out.

I posted a little while ago about these suits and I will have to say, If you are COMPLETELY sold out for God and have taken up your cross and followed Him, He will tell you what to wear and when. I have one of these suits and I like it. My only advise is "Love the Lord your God with ALL your heart ALL your soul ALL your mind and ALL your strength."

Carrie,

I'm all for meeting God naked, as you argued, there is no reason to be ashamed of the human body. However, these are not Jesus-meeting swimsuits.

Given the reality that Hollywood and Madison Avenue cram sex-sex-sex down our throats 24-hours a day and that it's not always safe for a woman just to go jogging through a park, one should easily be able to see why some women and young girls might not want to be on the receiving end of media-inspired-liberalism-run-amuck glares.

Put another way, some women would rather endure, "Hey babe nice swim dress...ha, ha." Rather than, "Hey babe nice hooters." Just do an internet search for "beach voyeurism" and see if you come up with any disturbing results.

In a perfect world (Eden), we could all go naked with no problem. However, a little apple eating put an end to that fantasy. These swimsuits may be a little more than I'd expect from my wife or daughter, but I'll vigorously defend any female's choice to wear them without ridicule. I'd much rather have my daughter err on the side of caution and wear one of these in public than err on the side of trying to cover herself with just a few lengths of string.

I found this site on a google search for modest swimwear. You see, I am a Muslim American woman that is joining a gym. Since converting, and adopting a modest dress style, including the headscarf, I stopped swimming, because I could not find a suit that was not revealing.
I am smiling at many of the comments by the sisters. You speak of guarding your modesty and saving your beauty for your husbands, and teaching your girls to do the same, and teaching your boys to look for believing girls. I could be reading posts from many muslim sites. We are all in the same boat, it seems, trying to keep to God's commandments in a world gone to sin and decadence. I want to thank you all so much for reminding me of our shared burdens/blessings. And yes, I am buying one of those lovely suits, and looking forward to being able to take part in summer, and still keep my principles.

L. Alahem

I am a mother of 5 daughters and would love to purchase these swimsuits for myself and my girls. I love the water but have always felt uneasy in regular swimsuits. Having to find clothing to cover up the swimsuit seemed rediculous and uncomfortable. Having a suit that is modest and made out of the right material to not be so cumbersome is a God send. I have always held to the standard that we would certainly not go out or let our daughters out in public in their underwear, and yet we make that underwear out of a different material and call it a swimsuit and then people are ok with it...HELLO. anyone see a problem here???

I am also ashamed at the sight of some women at the pool. How selfish you are being. Yes men have the ability to show self control. God gave them desires that are aroused by sight of a beautiful woman...it was so they would delight in the sight of their wife. That they could be naked and not ashamed... in the context of marriage!!! Some woman can only think of what they want to do and just put the responsibility on the man to deny his God given desires because they can't show a little self control by covering themselves up a little. Think of all the young boys growing up being bombarded with half naked women because they have the "right" to dress how they want. We cannot answer for the men who lack self control nor does God hold us accountable for them. He only holds us accountable for our own actions and motives. Just check your motives. I would be concerned if your justifications always start with "I want", "I think" , "I feel", instead of "God wants", "God thinks", etc.

We have to be in constant prayer on behalf of our children that the influences of the world would not corrupt them. Satan has a stronghold in the area of modest and immodest dressing. Just seeing how passionate everyone is that responds to this is a good indication of how important it is to both sides.

God help us all to stand on the right side and finish the race set before us.

I have NOTHING against these swimsuits, I am 15, home schooled and modest. I don't wear anything that my parents don't approve of. But I would NOT wear this! I would be ashamed! I don't want to look like my mom, I want to look pretty. NOT sexy! I just want to have fun, and have a cute swimsuit. I think it's SO annoying that guys have lust filled hearts! Shame on you guys, otherwise I could wear a cute swimsuit of my choice, and I wouldn't have to worry about what shorts I wear and have to feel icky when a man walks by (I don't like the thought of a man looking at me like that).

I am saving my self for my husband.. I've been with my bf for a year and I haven't kissed him (and never will). But I don't feel like it's wrong that people date and not court. I mean courting isn't the BEST nor is dating! It's really a personal choice. So I think it's wrong that people are all like "Courting is the BEST, dating is horrible!! SIN SIN SIN!!!". I love the Lord, and if he tells me that I shouldn't date then I won't!

I've even read books on dating and courting. Lots of people date, get married and live happily ever after. I don't believe in divorce unless the man or the woman is hurting the other over and over never stopping.

Wow, - I am utterly amazed at the number of comments posted on these swimsuits, - both negative and positive. I have been convicted for many years that as a Christian I should not "uncover my nakedness", "put on that wich pertaineth to a man" or "put a stumbling block in the path of anyone". A man can walk in to any store and buy a modest outfit, a woman cannot walk into ANY store (in an average city in Europe at least) and by ANY modest outfit, infact last time I went to the bussiest shopping street in London looking for a simple t. shirt I couldn't find even ONE that was modest - I am serious - everything was either too see-through, too low cut up top or too short at the base, too tight or had no sleeve. I thank God that even if I do have to cyber-surf across the ocean I can get hold of a modest swim-suit. I have had one of these suits for a couple of years and I have received a couple of puzzled looks (I tend to go only to quiet beaches as females need to guard against immodest temptations caused by the sights around them too...) but all of my Christian friends (male and female) have only had positive things to say. Far from being dangerous or cumbersom these suits are less weighty or restrictive than any other t.shirt/short/skirt combination that you can possibly dream up, they don't fill with air or float up (problems with other designs I've tried to make myself). Highly recommended I am 29 and I have been making my own choices about what I wear for many years and when I was desperately looking for a swimsuit a couple of years ago I thought these looked very stylish and not unlike a sun-protection suit/surf suit that many "fashionable" people seem to like. One last comment, I feel it is important for men to guard their modesty and cover up too, there is nothing "sexist" about following the plain word of scripture.

wow..i have neve seen a site quite like this..but i like it..i am a heavy set girl and i am all the time looking for MODEST swim suits...most of the time i wae coulotts and a t-shirt...i have great convictions when it comes to what i wear my father is a Baptist preacher..and i think that it is my duity not only as a christian but also as a pastors daughter so not only act like a christian but also look like one!!....i know that you guys are probably gettin alot of rude and mean comments..but hand in there..you have a sister in Chirst in WEST VIRGINIA praying for you

Sorry Jennifer, I 'll try this!! I never was good at computers!

There are enough comment's here that you'd think it would all have been said already! However, I just wanted to comment from somewhere in the middle. I used to believe more liberally, then married a more conservative man from a conservative family. They all wear full length dresses by day and coulots and tee shirts over swim suits to swim. I grew up wearing jeans and tank tops, shorts, shorter skirts, and "normal" bathing suits. Nothing provocative or revealing, but definitely not what they would approve of! In my 7 years of marriage in this family I have come to understand that as a society we HAVE gone down the drain. We care far too much about catching the opposite sex's eye and looking sexy and not enough about what God thinks. We do not have the fear of the Lord (And I mean a healthy fear of the Lord, not a, "I am scared of God hitting me with a lighening bolt for wearing a swim suit, fear!) I needed to do a reality check on myself and reevaluate my wardrobe and my morals. I did this very carefully. I watched my new sister in laws and mother in law and what they wore. I ended up somewhere in the middle, I wear jeans and pants still- but not tight; shirts, but no tank tops, nothing tight, nor low cut. I stay fashionable, but never reveal much skin. My husband likes the way I dress. He appreciates the changes I have made. He didn't tell me to make them. I made them of my own accord. My body is my husbands. Why dress for anyone else to see it?
Now for the flip side, I do think you can go too far with this. Modesty can become so much the focus of your Christian walk (probably because it is in such stark contrast to the world around you that you have to defend it so often) that it takes front stage when it should be in the background. Shouldn't it? I have noticed, not with my in laws, but with some of their friends who believe the same way, that their belief in modesty in this strict manner, has taken over their lives and becomes their first and foremost fight which they debate with people. I am not saying everyone does this, obviously. Some people have found a balance and realize that their Christian walk is defined by Christ and His work in their lives, not their convictions on modesty.
I guess my points are, if you disagree with these suits, fine. Your decision, but don't be so quick to judge those who choose to wear it. They will not drown (trust me, I have seen my sister in law swim in far more material that this!) And if they believe it to be sin to wear a what you call "normal" bathing suit (what is normal anyhow?) then it is sin for them! Would you rather they sin to fit in with you?
And for those of you that do agree with the suit, be careful with your comments. Men are weaker visually it is true, but they are still resposible for their lust. Women are responsible for modesty I believe, but you get into a sticky situation when you start making comments about it causing rape, lust, adultry, etc. Men are still responsible for their actions. In addition to that, as I said earlier be sure that you do not make this the focus of your life or your girls lives. Make it something that somes second to almost everything else in their Christian walk. I know it will be hard since when they first meet people that is the first thing that gets noticed is their attire, but try not to let modesty be the focus of their Christian walk! They should not be defined by what they wear but by Christ in them.
Lisa

We have to recognize that we've all come from different backrounds and different situations. While some may feel a calling to have high standards of modesty, others may not have standards as high and still be completely on good terms with the Lord. Whatever happens, He won't love you any less if you dress less modest than someone else. Did that make any sense?

Folks, those of us who are Christians should remember that those who are lost can only be expected to behave like those who are lost.

1 CO 2:14 But the NATURAL MAN receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

Before I realized my condition and accepted the gift of life offered by Jesus, I was most definitely not concerned with modesty or anything else pertaining to the Lord. I didn't teach my daughters properly, and now they are paying the consequences for my negligence. I honestly thought those Christians were just trying to find something to complain about, since they weren't allowed to have any fun themselves.

Now I know better, and I still have so much to learn. I have a lot of fun, and I don't wear pants, bikinis, shorts, tight or low cut blouses, etc. I just don't think it is anyone's business if I am slim or fat, sexy or not. Is it my fault that men lust after women? No, but that is what they do. My job is to not encourage lust. We can say all day long that men should be able to control themselves. Through Christ they can, but do recovering alcoholics work in bars? Does your neighborhood bank leave the safe unlocked and unattended?

RO 14:13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a STUMBLINGBLOCK or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

Are the so-called "normal" swimsuits immoral? Since the Bible says...1TI 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in MODEST apparel...I would say the answer is yes, they are immoral. I am not judging anything by my own standards, but by the standards the Lord set for us, which are the only standards that matter.

As for those that say they are Christians but don't think there is anything wrong with showing your shape to everyone, perhaps you should actually read and study God's Word, pray, and then see how you feel about it. Don't take my word for it.

We are to protect our eyes from evil things, and we are to remain separate.

2 CO 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord…

GE 9:23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

PS 101:3 I will set no wicked thing before mine EYES: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

let me start off by saying yes sometimes suits go a little too far(very slutty) but these suits go way to far in the other way i fell so sorry for the girls that are forced to wear these suit or the girls that have to get approvile by there father thats horrible
dating is better then courting and its ok to kiss before your married come on!!

I am a 17 year old girl and i love these simsuits, but unfortunately, i can not purchace one b/c my family doesn't support my desire to present my self modestly. thankfully, they allowed me to get rid of all of my old pants and short skirts and replace them with longer, modest ones. i don't understand why people have such a big problem with young women wanting to live modestly.

I think we as Americans have gotten used to seeing naked, exposed bodies. So our vision is skewed and we look at this as weird. I agree with a writer above who said that we tend to make fun of modesty or people who don't wish to expose themselves for religious reasons, but we, at the same time call our selves tolerant of other people's views. We only seem to be tolerant if immorality is involved. Keeping yourself, chaste and moral is somehow weird? I was glad to see these suits. There are some more 'Middle of the road" suits at swimmodest.com. Chest is not exposed and the suit does not expose the thighs and buttocks and comes above the knee. They look very comfortable.

I take serious issue with the comments posted above. One message suggests that AIDS, divorce and rape were "unheard" of back when people wore such bathing suits in the 19th century. Such an ignorant statement is troubling. Rape was commonplace throught history, women just lacked the legal backing to punish the offenders. Such theories that women "ask" to be raped by their dress or behavior is antiquated and abhorent. AIDS is indeed a recent development, but sexually transmitted diseases were quite commonplace. At the height of the Victorian era, when such modest bathingsuits were the norm, Syphilis and Gonorrhea were a large problem, not only for prostitutes but also for their clientele: "Christian" men who brought the diseases into their marriages. And while divorce was prohibited by law until rather recently, that does not mean that all that existed before was happy marriages. In fact, the opposite is likely true, as women were trapped in abusive marriages. Does the Bible condone a man beating his wife? Should we not permit women to escape an abusive marriage? At a time when women have so many advantages in society and education I find it troubling that someone would use religion as an excuse to reinforce partiarchial norms that relegate women to nothing more than servants in a world run by men, constantly worried about "causing men to sin." I do not believe that this is what God had in mind when he created women from the rib of Adam, a clear metaphor for women and men to walk side by side.

[EDIT: CT MADE FOUR SEPARATE CONSECUTIVE COMMENTS WHICH I'VE CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE COMMENT.]

the fact of the matter is that, if you are a women of God ... you will find a way to not expose your body! If it means wearing "funny" swimsuits like that shown above ... you will do it! and if it means, that you dont go and swim in public ... you will do it! is it really such a big price to pay for someone who died for your sins? or do you think if God were to come at just the time you are lusting away in your bikini, that He is gonna have mercy for you? Do you really want to stand in front of God in your bikini? i would shudder if i were you! Or are you one of those who thinks ... ah, God is a merciful God and will forgive? Do you really want to take the chance?

Yes, He is merciful, but He is also a God who will send to hell! Look at muslim women, their direction of praise may be questionable, but at least they still dress with dignity. .. and me as a all-worshipping Christian male, honnours student at university (and not theology), would rather be associated with a properly dressed muslim women that an undressed "Christian" women.

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and i thank all women out of the bottom of my heart who resist this world and still dress with dignity! God will notice and you will be rewarded one day!

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and sorry i was just goin through this list, there was a person, i do not mention names, on the 26th of march, who proclaims that "Common, get real!" ... and yes do what the rest of the world does.... with specific reference to a specific deed!

Miss, i challenge you to stand in front of the Almighty God and utter the same arrogant words! Why does there always have to be a sexual component before marriage? why cant a woman and a man, not just be best of friends and decide to commit to marriage in honour of God? and then once in marriage, there can be decided what role the sexual component will play?

I like a lot of girls and i'd even be so arrogant to say that some of them like me back, but out of respect for my Heavenly Father who has given me all i have, i will refrain from any sexual contact, (until i meet the one who is meant for me ... and then only in marriage) because i love Him so much, that i do not want to hurt Him in any way ... even if this means that some people say that i'm stupid and i miss out on all the fun. If serving my God in this way is stupid, i sure dont ever want to become smart!

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and just reading up on some previous comments, i cant say i am really astounded, but just dissapointed ... as usual! Being a honours university student (and its not in language, so excuse the spelling) living on campus, i have unfortunately become use to the ways of the secular world and it saddens to say that little shocks me!

Let me put it this way ... U believe in God and Jesus Christ right? Well what does believing in Them mean? That you just believe they live ... or what? NO! Saying you believe, it means that you believe in His word and His WHOLE(extended sound) word. What is His word? The Bible! ... and what does the Bible say .... let me take you to a verse that i so often read when the women of this world dissapoints me ... 1 Timothy chapter 2 verse 9 to 15 .... which says that it is the task of the woman to dress with modesty and sobriety (and i hope this is correctly translated, cause i speak and read another mother language) and that she should not have all kinds of ways dressing up her hair and should not worry about jewelry and make-up! This continues, but due to limited time and space i will stop.

So miss in one of the top readings, you are absolutely free to go and nude away at the beach, but if i were you, i would be so scared of what God was going to do to me, i'd fill the sea with a distinct yellow colour of some of your bodily fluid! Do you think Adam and Eve was scared of God for the joke of it, when their eyes opened and they realised they were naked? .... Yes ... they wisened up and made a plan and got some covering ... all be it a bit agricultural methods, but i mean give them a break, its not like they had a crash course on sewing or something.

and i am not oppressing women! I as a man take particular care in that i do not expose myself! Men and women are indeed equal ... God just gave us different roles and we should stick to what He says, cause He knows best

All my girls wear these suites and are the envy of all of there femal peers. I guess its all in how people veiw things. My girls love them!

And now from a Torah-Observant Jew: I need to also cover my elbows and knees!! (It looks like maybe knees can be covered)

As for the negative comments: I wouldn't cover my hair and wear long skirts in public if I cared what you think. It's not for you, it's for G-d.

My daughter just turned 7 and I am horrified at what I am finding in stores for 7 year olds. 'It's what the market demands' my backside - there is no corporate responsibility when there is a buck to be made off of peer pressure, and the younger the better. Truly Disgusting.

In commenting on the march 26 statement. As christians, the father is the head of the home and any child under his roof will be under his authority, especially if they've been "born again". Any daughter who would have a father to care so much about them and be under the Lord's rule would love their parents and respect the place God has put them in. If you can't be under your authority in the home, your not under Gods. Dating is not mentioned in the bible . Study what the bible says about the "spirit of a harlot." Courtship is far better than dating. As being older and wiser, not raised in a "good" christian home, the church I have attended now for many, many years does not date at all. Yes very different from other conservative churchs. We have faith marriages and divorce is very rare. You do not know your spouse hardly at all except the 2-3 hours you spent together at a singing and expressed each others views and what direction the Lord is leading you. If both follow what the bible says about how you are to treat each other or other people, and are taught very well in the church those scriptures, your marriage should not fail. That doesn't mean everything is a bed of roses as you would like it to be, but when the bible is followed.....OH WHAT JOY!

WOW PRAISE THE LORD.
i am glad to have found a solution to my question namely what to wear when going to the coast. I love the water but i love God more, therefor i would like to honor him by keeping his comandment. nobody needs to see my body but my husband, this way i don't feel like i am on a meat market. i would still be modestly dressed and yet i am able to enjoy the water and swim, so it is a nice compromise this way, and as far as for my daughter you better believe she will be wearing it as well. I don't need guys eyes balls to pop when looking at her.

I posted some comments earlier as well. As i mentioned, i am a dude (a male) and i find it such a joy to come this site and actually read about girls who find it a joy to cover their bodies! Man, where are you girls in real life, cause i sure aint seein none where i live.

I just want to mention i totally agree with diana's comments on the 18th of april! ... and thanks to all the ladies that cover themselves just like God and Jesus would want it to be. I think you girls and ladies are all lovely.

Thanks for coming out with swimwear for ugly people. who wants to see them in a bikini anyway? yuck.

azzface, you are obviously confused between "modest" and "ugly." Thanks, though, for being a perfect example that that there are worse things than being ugly on in outside...namely, being ugly on the inside.

You see Janice, that is just the problem. You say "and give the girl chance to COMPETE in swimming" ... Why does it always have to be about competition. A Christian women should know that she should not compete for anything except for the competition against herself for the love of God. If you girls want to go out and swim ... do so, but do it in the way God would want and that is having proper wear like the Bible describes. Dont go and do it for competition like this world has made it out to be... competition for money ... competition for beauty ... competition for prestige ...etc. It is things like this, that has made the world such a corrupt place such as it is!

these are the ugliest swimsiuts ever! i am 15 and have been homeschooled all my life and i would never wear something like this. modest should not be tranlated to ugly. there is a way to look modest and very cute. i have four sisters and we look modest and yet we don't look like we are wearing sacks! someone said in a previous comment that you can't find a modest swimsiut in the stores! o my gosh! yes you can. you just have to look!

you don't have to stand out to be modest!!!!!!!!

my friends and i believe in modesty and these bathing suits are fine i think that maybe they should make them in different colors and maybe in a different style and fabric i personaly wouldnt were one but i do appritiate the thought
you can be fashionable and modest at the same time just wear a modest one peice with out to much of a dip in the chest area ( you can wear a two peice if you want to,no one is saying that its wrong it is your choice after all) i personally do wear a two piece in my own home and at my swimming competition because i do like to feel the water on my body thanks bye

I am a 16 year old christian girl and homeschooled. I have a tankhini bathing suit with the boy-cut shorts. And it is very modest. I think it is so stupid how homeschoolers have this preconceived idea that modest equals ugly. Samantha said "I agree that you do not have to look frumpy to be modest, but there is a line." I agree there is a line, but most people go way over the modest side of that line and they draw attention to themselves by looking like absolute frumps!!! Other people go way over the other side of the line and also draw attention by looking like sluts! But there is an inbetween where you can look very cute and not like a homeschooling nerd!!!

Can anyone tell me when the meaning of the word "convicted" changed to mean convinced? Or is this an American Christian thang? Sheesh.

I love checking in on this site :o)

I made my first comment around April 16 (give or take). I ordered the swimsuit pattern to make my own "little black dress" swimsuit. I LOVE IT!!

It is both modest and super cute (I took off the sleeves and traded the leggings for a two piece swimsuit bottom.

Skirt can be lengthened or, in my case, shortened. As can the bodice. Very easy pattern to follow and sew!!

Words can and commonly do have more than one meaning such as a nun's habit. While one might be correct in saying nuns wear uniforms, it is more accurate to say that nuns wear habits. No matter how much one wants to jump up and down and insist that nuns wear uniforms, the more correct phrase is that they wear habits (assuming they are habit wearing nuns).

Likewise, while you want so very much want for the word to be "convinced," the more correct word is "convicted." Convinced will do just fine just as uniform will do just fine, but convicted is more accurate and more fully conveys the speakers intended message as shown in the definition I previously quoted.

"You will not find it used as an alternative to "convinced" in any reputable dictionary."

Oh really:

Merriam-Webster OnLine, con*vict, transitive verb, second definition: "to convince of error or sinfulness"

Thus "convict" is a more precise form of "convince." Where as you can convince people of many things, when you convince them of error or sinfulness you are more precisely "convicting" them.

Likewise, for:

Answer.com, con*vict, third definition, "To make aware of one's sinfulness or guilt."

And, same for:

Dictionary.com, con*vict, third definition, "To make aware of one's sinfulness or guilt."

Seriously, do you look things up before you say stuff?

I've heard the term used just as Sarah used it many times and in different parts of the country. I really think the Merriam-Webster definition hits it dead on. But, if you don't see that, oh well.

I will admit Americans are great at mangling the language, but this is not an instance of mangling.

Jag, one can try to convince you that the word has been used correctly, but it's probably better to make you aware that there is another meaning of the word that apparently does not appear in your dictionary. (As an editor, I have discovered all dictionaries are not created equal!)

(See convicted at websters.com)
(See convicted at m-w.com)

Reworked, this is the meaning as the author wrote the sentence. "I just want to say that we need to remember that the Lord makes different people become aware of their sinfulness at different times."

The swimsuits are great. It is much better than the half naked hoochee-mama things that everyone is wearing. I would suggest one thing: a more modern design and cut.

Chastity is the virtue which excludes or moderates the indulgence of the sexual appetite.

With chastity is often confounded modesty, though this latter is properly but a special circumstance of chastity or rather, we might say, its complement. For modesty is the quality of delicate reserve and constraint with reference to all acts that give rise to shame, and is therefore the outpost and safeguard of chastity.

Not my handy work, checkout this website for the full explaination. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03637d.htm

I have a question to all the women that have responded negatively to statements of modesty. Are you a man? For as sure as a man cannot understand the miracle of child birth, the strangeness of a menstrual cycle and the loathsomeness of having to share your existence with a person that is obviously not as intelligent as you (this is some of the opinions express by the women in this group towards men). I say that women cannot possibly fathom the sexual nature of a man. Every study done on a male sexuality shows that most men are aroused by sight! What a revelation! So if you like prancing around in some thick underwear, without regard towards those around you, that you might be stirring up lust in their hearts, or putting others to shame, at the least you’re a self centered brat with no consideration for the weakness of your so called brethren (saying that you’re saved) or the other women around you. IT is almost like flaunting your wealth. How tacky!!! If you’re unsaved then it really doesn't matter. Because a lost person has nothing but self centerness (without Christ you only have yourself). If these ladies want to wear something that makes them feel modest than what is that to you! I grew up around strippers, pornographers and perverts and guess what, they aren't free to express themselves, they are condemned in their own minds as being unworthy and lost. They felt that exploiting their bodies was the only value that they have. If you’re not a Christian and you’re looking just to attack people because of their beliefs then “Get ye behind me Satan” because I see enough of “your” opinions on billboards, TV, magazines and anywhere else you have the opportunity to push your agenda (secular humanist religion). Please pray for your own salvation in Christ while you still have a breath to do so. Oh and for those women are seeking modesty thank you for being real and considerate.

I actually read all the comments on this site! I agree that we should worship the Creator and not the creature! It is about what God wants, not us. So many have justified what we believe to be okay. Even some of the "Christians" don't seem to know much about modesty. God instituted modesty in the Garden of Eden along with marriage. Marriage hasn't changed why should modesty? God put a "coat" or "tunic" on man AND woman. Study the tunic. It covers from neck to knee and sometimes to the elbow. The priest in the old testament were said to "show their shame" when they lifted their tunics and showed their thighs when crossing the river. They had to cross, but not with shame. Every time the thigh is mentioned throughout the bible is comes with shame. That is God, not me talking. He created shame. It isn't bad. Neither is a conscience! Man makes shame a bad thing. The bible also speaks of a people that cannot blush. They lost the ability to feel shame. God condemned this.
My husband is a police officer in Denver, Co. It would scare any of you to death if you truley knew how many sex offenders there are in this city and nation!!! Something is making it worse. One child sex offender said "why can't the parent's see that they add to my temptation by letting their children dress immodestly?" Not my kids! I have taught them modesty from day one. They feel weird if they are uncovered! They feel sorry for girls that are allowed to show it all off. We have taught them with love and trust, not an iron fist!
There is more to life than skin and sex! We are under a new law of Liberty in Jesus Christ. Let's consentrate on what we can do and not what we can't! We can be Christians and marry, have kids, love and give love, and spread the light of Christ to a dying world! The Bible is full of can do's. Quit worrying about the few of us who choose not to look like every other person out there. It would be easy to be one of you. Can you be like me or better yet, Jesus? Just like I tell my daughters, any girl can give herself away, but once you do you can NEVER get it back!!! Same with modesty. Once the world has seen, it is too late to take it back. You can cover in the future, but many have already seen you!
Please visit www.givemethebible.net to learn more about Salvation and being a Christian.
The only thing you have to loose is your soul!!!!!!!!!

Well since the subject of rape was brought up, according to Deuteronomy 22:25-29
25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a girl pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the girl; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders his neighbor, 27 for the man found the girl out in the country, and though the betrothed girl screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. [a] He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives

So... if your virgin daughter was raped, the rapist pays fifty shekels of silver, and gets to enjoy the fun forever.

pick-and-choose christians, class dismissed

Those swimsuits are ugly! Besides. Women should be allowed to show off if they so choose. It's up to the woman to resist the urges to sell herself. If she can resist the charms of men and fend them off, then she should be allowed to wear what she chooses.

"What defines cute? SEXY!"

Umm, no. I remember when my daughter was 2, she had one of those victorian style felt dresses. That was cute, NOT sexy. You can wear cute clothes, and it not be sexy. And you can wear "sexy" clothes and not be sexy. Anybody ever seen a 300 pound man in a speedo?
It's been said that Marilynn Monroe would look sexy in a burlap sack. So they had her wear one, and yes she was.

I wouldn't wear those bathing suits because I'm a man. Also I sometimes swim in shorts and t-shirt. The t-shirt does not allow easy swimming, especially when the arm is fully extended up. Add to the fact, these bathing suits also have the dress portion will cause drag. That "bathing dress" would be fine for wading in water, but not for any extended swimming.

I'm confused about your definition(s) of love.
First you say "will not "fall in love"/captivated by my emotions. (Love is a feeling/emotion)
Then you say "love their husbands. It is an action. Not a feeling." (love is not a feeling)
Then you say "Feelings are not evil at all! But their the wrapping to the package, the frosting on the cake. A marriage without it would be insipid. Just the frosting without the cake becomes sickening after a time." (feeling/love are needed for a long marriage)
Yet earlier you state you should not make decisions based on feelings.

So which is it?

So you plan to marry someone then "hope" to have feelings for them? Just get married for money, or just to have kids, that's worked great in the past.

Please explain how you can "be a stumbling block for my brothers."

While you are at it, please explain how a 2 year old thread can still be active with so many "modest" women who are on the internet. Anybody ever hear how "evil" the internet is?!?

"While you are at it, please explain how a 2 year old thread can still be active with so many "modest" women who are on the internet."

Because [people] like you are still posting on it, then asking why it's still going.

Though from a very.... shall we say liberal parentage, I have been christian all my life thanks to my grandmother. I got one of these swin suits when I was 10. I have always been very active, especially in the water. These suits have a very wonderful thought behind them, and sure if you are the occasional swimmer or swim only mild or lightly these are wonderful, but I was not able to swim efficiently. As a matter of fact, I found that it was very hard to swim in a depth of water I couldnt touch my feet at (this had nothing to do with my swimming ability my dad used to be a navy seal so I've been swimming since I could walk). Yes, these suits have a good moral idea behind them, one that I agree with and keep, but at the same time I believe that they arent practical. Think of it this way, you wouldnt year sneakers on a backbacking trip because they arent the prober equipment. Look at the way God designed the animals of the water; do they have a loose, exhorbitant exterior? No, they're streamlined becasue it is more efficient for swimming. I am currently 16 and I swim in a One piece and (boys because they are longer) swin trunks when I swim casually and a one piece and boy speedo shorts (the ones that go down to thier legs) when I swim for long distance because they offer less resistance. I once tried one of those surf tops, but found that they dont really fit my shoulders because mine are so broad.
I will say this though, I absolutely love these, they are wonderful, but I am too active of a swimmer to wear them.

bod bless
~kiennah

PS: thanks for that ohana link whoever posted that! those are exactly what I have needed and pretty much what I wear but in one convientient package!

It's amazing how people can get so upset because of others beliefs. The Bible specifically stats t"Judge not, that ye be not judged."
Matthew 7:1
Everyone believes something else, and I don't understand why everyone seems to be judging everyone else. We all have our own opinions, and unfortunatley, most of those will never see it God's way. Some may love the suits, and others may never wear them. But what gives you a right to judge those who are doing what they believe? I do my best (with God of course) to not judge anyone else because I know how I would feel if they judged me. Just something to ponder.

Thanks and to God be the Glory!!

Firstly i would like to thank Ruth (although your comments are confusing at times) and especially Elizabeth for their comments. it is so true and i just am so thankful to God when i see and hear how He changed people like Elizabeth and her husband's life to the good. It shows that i am not alone in this world, although i feel very alone sometimes. Thanks for your comments elizabeth.

As for Jaclyn above here, one of the people forever going on about not "judging" people. It is not judging people when i say that it is for the glory of Christ and God that you should dress modestly. Should I then forever keep quite and say nothing? How do people change then? By keeping your mouth shut or emploring them (never violently though) to change, because You know your Bible and God is speaking through you?

I'm telling you, just like the Bible says that you should always lovingly try to convince people to change and tell them of the ways of God ... and this is NOT judging ... it is love, because i rather have someone hate me and i know that i have told them the truth, than rather keep quite and let them live in ingnorance without them truly knowing what God wants ... and that is love and not judging!

I know I've just posted a comment...but I wanted to clear things up. I dress modestly, and I live my life for God. These swimsuits for me would not be ok, because I would feel I was revealing too much. I have different convictions than others, and I do things differently than others. It does not mean I'm better than you, or you're better than me. We all live in a world that is not perfect. We all have different comments and different ideas, and I don't want anything to start because I feel differently than some of you. CT, you do have some good opinions and if they work for you, then I think that is great. And if something works for me, no one should flip out because it's not how they would do it. We're all different, but God still loves us all. So thank you to everyone for all the different comments and opinions....

Forever to God be the Glory!!!

What is all comes down to is: Judge and be judged. If you want to wear a modest suit--wear one, if you want to wear something else--well, that's your perogative as well. God gave us free will and in the end--HE will judge us.

Christians should know that shoving their beliefs or the Bible in someone's face in an opinionated way will not change their views. You will only turn them away from God by being judgemental. What's the purpose of being modest on the outside if nobody wants to listen what you have to say, because you are judging them. We are to "love" our neighbor, remember.

As for those of you who make fun or anybody who wants to dress in a modest suit--shame on you! I bet you were one of those kids who made fun of others in elementary school who were too poor to afford stylish clothing. Grow up!

Hello, i would just like to thank Jacklyn for her reply. You are right that not everyone does agree, because i still dont quite agree with you, but i accept your comments and think it is fair enough.

The Bible teaches me, "yes, that not all will think the same", but when God and His word lives in you, you do feel the same about key issues ... such as the way you dress.

Sam made a comment here above, that everyone should dress as they want to and have the freedom, which i cant stop anyway, because i do not have power over how other people dress, but dont you realise that in God;s word He says that you should dress modestly, so you can go ahead and dress like you want, but when Christ comes, He and God is not going to be too happy with you,because you did not do what He said, thats why i implore you rather to dress modestly and rather be mad at me, than be caught out when God comes.

Furthermore thanks for all the comments, i especially liked what Dana had to say. May all have a cool day everywhere, also right here from South Africa where i am e-mailing from right now. and to all those who dont know, not all people in Africa are black (as yours truly) and i am not surrounded by wild animals, we do actually have civilization :-)

I have not read this entire thread so I'm not sure if this has been asked yet or not, but how many of you are competitive swimmers? I swam competitively for thirteen years and let me tell you--the suits in the picture are not appropriate for competition. The loose fitting material creates drag and makes it extremely difficult to swim the strokes legally. As one who has swam in her clothes as part of a workout, I can also attest to the fact that swimming in this kind of material is very difficult. You're essentially expending needless effort trying to propel yourself while being weighed down by this fabric.

I wear Speedos for competition/training, and always will. I can say with reasonable confidence that anyone singing the praises of these suits has yet to try swimming a 400 butterfly while wearing them. Good luck with that.

Fankly ,I try( key word being try) not to care what people wear as it is really none of my concern.I do agree that society is getting more and more sexualized by the year though. As for my own choices they are modest. I'm 16 and still want to look young, but my skirts and shorts must be knee length or below. my tops are pretty modest, granted some are a little lower but not too low. This doesn't bother me because I'm doing it for my self. Now unlike you guys I'm not christian(I don't have a religion)but i stil have the main values because of my family. So I'll let you on the suject of swimwear yes there are too many skimpy things ,i want to throw long coats over some girls my goodness some of the stuff my peers wear.

sarah

Liz on October 1, 2005 stated that her ideal would be a two piece modest suit. www.modest-swimwear.net has a suit just as you described. They sale patterns, but they also have a section with already made ones. Good Luck!

I think it is absolutely wonderful that you would wear the swimsuits happily,unembarassed,to please Yahweh.he will certainly bless you.Personally,being 15 I would want something a little more stylish and feminine but if you are happy wearing it than that is great!.We are messianic and just started wearing skirts only that cover the knees so the bikinis arent exactly acceptable.I have had a lot of trouble trying to find a modest swimsuit and I dont really want to make one. i wrote down some of the sites that other visitors recomended. im about to go check them out. Thanks!

Norma, sorry but I do not sell anything from this website or anywhere else. You will have to try your luck with one of the sellers mentioned in the comments or someone else.

I just want to say if you don't want to wear these swimsuits then freaking don't wear them!!!!!!!! And why do you care if other people do? There are some people on this sight who "know they are right" and, in my opinion are acting like retards! STOP TRYING TO FORCE WHAT YOU BELIEVE ON OTHER PEOPLE!!!!! 'Cause trust me most of the time they could care less!!!!!!

I would not wear one of these swim suits. But that does not mean that I am not modest. I am very protective of my body and I think that that is ok. I think that if somebody feels comfy and modest in one of these suits then they have the right to wear them. People should not be judged by what they wear. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. If you do not like the suits then you dont have to wear them. You can buy something else.

Modesty - Moderation in one's actions or appearance, not wishing to attract undue attention to oneself.

If I ever see someone wearing something that ugly I will not be able to stop laughing.

I am troubled that many of these comments may foster shame about their bodies in young girls. I imagine that it would be hard to transform a young girl's shame in her body into a reveling in her beauty for her husband's benefit. If you teach girls from childhood that their bodies are a liability, will they ever be able to truly enjoy sex? How about initiate it (with their husbands)? I would honestly like to hear from some married woman who were raised in this context and now enjoy personally fulfilling and, dare I say it, orgasmic sex lives with their husbands.

I am 17 and I am always trying to fond a modest bathing suit that is acceptable. I think that these are a little too far but, the idea is great. I want someone to make modest swimwear that is more like a tankini but with shorts for bottoms, and not low in the front! As for the people making fun of Christians, I think that you should learn more about our beliefs before laughing at us. It's not about what's on the inside."For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the spirit is life and peace!" Romans 8:6. God bless!

Carol,
"I suspect that these swimsuits are alarming to some women because that promote the attitude that women's bodies are shameful." I just don't understand this accusation. I think it is an unfair criticism by people who are subconsciously jealous of those who can overcome societal influences and peer pressure to dress in a fashion more modest than others would consider the "norm." Of ALL the women I know who dress modestly, NONE do it out of any sense of "shame."

"Some may think that it promotes the idea that women are responsible not only for controlling their own lust but the lust of men as well, which is an attitude that will lead to more rape." This and your explanation that follows does not compare apples to apples. Too many variables have changed to properly compare modern society with pre-1900s society. As I've said before here, it is irresponsible to walk around with hundred dollar bills sticking out of every pocket. No one has the right to grab one of those bills from you, but if someone did, who wouldn't say, "Well, what were you thinking?

It seems like the main idea of for wearing these swimsuits is to have modesty, which makes total sense. However, it just ends up hiding a womans beauty. God created women to be beautiful, so that we could represent God's beauty. I wouldn't judge anyone wearing this type of swimsuit. I'm saying that women shouldn't have to hide their beauty in order to be modest.

I agree with Grace 100%!!! Right on!!!!

I think you can wear swimwear, being modest and flattering at the same time. Those suits are all very well and good, but I would choose something a little more flattering to my figure. I think anyone who wears those swimsuits should be commended and that their values are good. My choice would be from http://www.modest-swimwear.net/. I am 13 and wear more modest gear than my mother!
God bless you all, no matter what your decision.

I think that this swimsuit and other such swimsuits give an opportunity, not an order for women to dress more modestly. It is left up to the buyer and the wearer what they will put on.

I would agree also with those who say it is an attitude problem as well. People can have provocative attitudes no matter what they wear.

Men should have to show self-control, but you are now assuming all the men at swimming pools are Christians, and have any desire to please Christ. I prefer to not leave the decision in their hands as to what they have a chance to think about my body.

Now, I will tell you a little about myself, I am a 19 year old girl who has been homeschooled all my life, who by the way is not fat! Homeschoolers are also quite active people, contrary to what some people (namely Stryker who commented May 9th) may believe. I find it offensive that people think they can categorize and group people they have never met. I am one of several girls I know who are homeschooled, active and not overweight. I have been in several Homeschool P.E. classes during my years at home. I can out run all of my public schooled friends! BTW if you once observed what most homeschooling mothers like to eat, you would think that they had stock in the health food store! Between green-drink (barley green), and goats meal (oatmeal with goats milk on it), fish-oil, [not that I have embraced all of the above], Whole wheat fill-in-the-blank etc. It is ridiculous that you would think that homeschoolers are all over weight! I might add, not all "health food" is nasty. We have found many healthier alternatives to various things. I find Whole wheat bread tastier than the white fluff.

I would agree that clothes are discussed too much, I think people make so much of an issue about other people's lives, specifically that part that they can see and that is why it is an over discussed topic. Why are people so concerned about other people's clothes?

Clothes are just a surface issue; there are far more important issues in a Christian's life.

I think that rather than focus on what other people choose to wear, one ought to focus on their personal walk with Christ and pray that they will be drawn closer to Him each day.

My standards are higher than most people I know and come in contact with, but I do not find it to be a point to judge others on. If people ask me questions about why I dress in the way I do, I just smile and tell them "this is my personal way of thanking God that He created me a woman."

I only wear skirts that cover my calf, and I don't wear tight or low cut clothing, but I also think it is not right to judge people for standards that God has not asked them to hold.

I am 22, and used to be home-schooled, and wear mid-thigh length shorts and a short-sleeved t-shirt over a one-piece to go swimming. It's comfortable, and doesn't hold me back in the water (I know because I have also used ordinary swimming costumes).

But (as lots of others have also said), rather than arguing over standards like these, it's better to be tolerant of what other people want to wear--whether their choice is more modest than yours, or less.

I couldnot care less than I do if a woman is so afraid of her shadow that hse wears this crazy contraption...but it scares me that there are people in the world who thing EVERY woman shoudl wear one. By the way.....where are the modest MEN'S swimsuit???? [Edited out comment re men's swimsuits - DWD]

I just want to say that i fully agree with Marthie Peden and thank you for the very true comments. it is a joy to hear a woman like yourself speak!

I think what is not being commented on is the fact that too prude of so called Christian values, which are skewed for each person to both extreams is the fact that as American we are so ashamed of the human body. I by no means think we need to walk around naked or even in a thong but to have blanket shame for the one thing every human has in common in nonsense. Many people on the beach are in a body fitting one piece and it draws no increased attention to anyone else in a one piece. It has become far too common for frightened Christian conservatives to think men are just sick leacherous creatures ogling every woman who shows a bit on ankle. I'm pretty confident that most of the postings who are modest Christians would think them selves furthers from Musilm society but who is the only other religious group who feels this same way.

http://www.jelbab.com/Swim-Suit.asp

all you guys are missing is the head cover.

i'm a 14 yr old christain girl, i am chastised and do not want the attention of boys. I dress very modestly, especially for church. I only wear dresses that cover my arms and are collared and knee length, i also wear knee high socks and flat mary jane shoes. Though i had very long blond hair that used to make boys weak for me and they in turn tried to lead me into sin. My friend have cut my hair off now and i wear it short as possible and my ears stick out and attract attention, i was very unhappy about this for a while but i have since preyed and learned that my vainity was a sin and that my big ears a blessing in humility. I no longer have boy problems and can be pure servant of God. I think the swim suit are good and would recommend modest hair as well.

This website is hysterical!!! As far as my opinion, well, what could I possibly say that has not allready been said? So I'll simply say this: Anyone who can't get a few good laughs out of reading this, is probably at one unhealthy extreme or the other.

So many things have been said about this site, this swimwear, this is surely going to be redundant. Not only that, I imagine not too many people will actually read this far down the page!

First, to those who are Muslims, the company Ahiida (http://www.ahiida.com/) makes swimsuits and activewear designed specifically for Muslim women. Best of all, they are even attractive!

My problem with these suits is of course, the extremes. Someone else pointed out that there are many other sites that carry very modest swimwear (www.modest-swimwear.net www.ohanaswimwear.com/index.php www.swimmodest.com). The difference between those and these is that the ones I just listed are a bit less extreme - they are slightly form-fitting, but I see very little wrong with that. Sweaters, dresses, etc. can be very modest while not looking like bags. These suits strike me as going a step past modesty - they are almost trying to make you look unattractive! Why would you do this? A muslim woman, even when fully covered by the hijab looks beautiful. Women look beautiful when wearing something that is flattering, but looking good does not equate to immodesty. Certainly there should be no judging of people who wear these swim suits, but likewise, someone who wears a modest but attractive suit should not be judged by those who wear these suits, which seems to be the tone of many other posts here. If you own one of these suits and think it is wonderful, more power to you, but please don't judge those of us who wouldn't be willing to wear this suit simply for its modesty because it does honestly lack style. There are many other options out there that are just as modest, but still stylish and beautiful!

I'm 15 i'm a christian i think these suits r great for any girl who wants to wear them and i'm not sorry one bit if "SOMEONE" doesn't like it if the world was all like that then it would stink people need to stand up for what they believe all my friends are looking for suits and i think this is great their are very few of these kind of sights i love all of them thanks for being here to make them love Hannah 15 and go'in on for the lord !!!!!!!!!~~~~~~

wow. the amount of intimatly personal reaction generated by a sarcastic swimwear post is intriguing. every since i was a 12-year old girl with a more developed "figure" i was chastisied for my curves, and told that the only way I wasn't leading men in lustfull thoughts was if I didn't have boobs, but since i do then hide it. talk about feeling self concious for the way i was created in God's image. oooh snap, people didn't think of that. I think the issue of "modesty" is brought up in the entirely wrong fashion (no pun intended) for the most part, and am generally offended when people give me judgemental opinions whenever I don't where a potatoe sack ovre my body. i still look at these swimsuits and laugh.
i think there is a bit of over-exposure with the knee-caps in those pictures though, practically indecent. I look like a jerk for posting on Christmas Eve. funny

this swimsuit in no way makes a female look attractive. God made us in His image and we should try and make ourselves look put together, attractive, and modest at the same time. this swimsuit covers the modest part and thats about it. i agree with kate. (she posted on christmas eve) i think many girls are told from the time they start filling out that they are causing the opposite sex to stumble. women are made with curves! get over it. men are supposed to be attracted to women. i don't think any guy would want to get married to some slob who could care less about how she looks as long as its modest. being modest is not the only important thing! some ppl think that if it makes you look pretty then you shouldn't wear it. looking pretty will attract the opposite sex. its a just a fact. stop trying to figure out ways to look ugly! it is really discouraging to teenage girls when their parents are never letting them look pretty in their own eyes. i am 15 and know what it feels like. my parents are not like that thankfully. but i know girls who do have parents like that. it is sooo frustrating when all you hear is "we know best". yes you might be the parent but that doesn't ever give you the right to be discouraging. it is very immportant to girls how they look. and i know all of you are thinking that that is vanity. it's not! it is not a bad thing to want to look attractive. and there should be a place where both the parent and the child are happy. it shouldn't be a dictatorship! if the point of having kids is to be able to tell them what to do, i don't want any. don't be supprised when your daughters don't share stuff with you. we want to talk to someone who respects us for who we are. you as the parent have to be respected for your position. but we also want to be respected as a person. it shouldn't be a slave/master relationship. we want a friend that we can share stuff with, not a "superior"!

After viewing all of the sites (for modest swimwear) mentioned, Ohana Swimwear takes the prize.
Their suits are modest, practical, and stylish.

I'm 34, and have trouble finding modest bathing suits. This seems like a good option, even if it's not really my sort of thing! I'm one of those crazy people who would really like an Edwardian Era (1900-1920) style suit in modern fabric - something that dries rapidly and allows for freedom of movement, while providing even MORE coverage than these suits do (I have very fair skin, and am prone to severe sunburn even - or especially, as I have discovered! - with sunscreen.)
I don't like the trends I've seen - I agree that it's a woman's right to make her own decisions about apparal, but I wish these modern women understood that it's not just about "inflaming the lust" or "glorifying God" - it's also about self-respect.
I have no problem with two-piece, bikini, etc. suits, BUT there are modest and, more importantly, FLATTERING options within that genre that women seem to overlook! Have enough respect for yourself to consider the image you present when wearing an unflattering or too-small (be it size or cut) item of apparal - ANY apparal!

i came across this blog while shopping for modest swimwear. regarding personal taste: i think there are more beautiful swimsuits than these that are available...

http://www.modest-swimwear.net/
http://www.swimmodest.com/
http://www.ohanaswimwear.com/

these swimsuits have more simple, classic lines; the ones pictured in Wholesomewear seem "fussy" to me. (i don't like ruffles, collars, or the "pinafore" look.)

that said, i also appreciate the swimwear made to meet islamic standards of modesty. i do not feel the need to cover my head, but i am most comfortable (outside my home or in the presence of men outside my family) when my arms and legs are also covered. i was born and raised in a muslim country, so this seems most natural to me.

to the more strongly opinionated christians who have posted: your lack of grace for one another does not glorify your God or show good testimony for your faith. i encourage you to "speak" with gentleness and respect...

i believe that modesty has alot to do with attitude. if you act flirty and sexual even if you are in modest attire, you are not being modest. it also has to do with how you pick out clothes. do you think, oh that is a nice sweater, or, that is pretty, or do you think, that will be hot, or, this hugs my curves nicely. if you think the second two, you are not dressing or thinking modestly. you shouldn't want to look hot or sexy, you should want to look nice(after all, your body is a temple unto the lord-you don't want to represent God and your church looking like a slob) and not draw attention to your body.

I accept the fact that you are a Christian the possibility of which I left open. Still, I could not leave your comment alone. I felt it merited either editing/deleting which I am loath to do and very rarely ever do, or a response. I'll leave it to the reader as to whether my assumption, with qualifications, that you were a Muslim was warranted.

As to how you can "appreciate...islamic standards" as evidenced not by an average American Muslim, which I could understand, but as evidenced in a Muslim country where you were born and raised, all I can say is that you are obviously familiar with a Mulslim country that I am not. Perhaps such a nation could get the word out to its neighbors how to behave in a civilized world in the 21 century.

I agree "in the eyes of God" all sin is equal. But, I'm not God and I've never met or heard of anyone who when questioned, "Would you like me to talk bad about you and your family or just cut everyone's heads off?" respond with, "It doesn't matter...it's all equal." There is NO moral equivalence. No sane person can say that the above typers share any meaningful characteristic with radical Islamofascists who consider everyone outside their ignorant fanatical belief system equivalent to pigs and apes and worthy of death.

As to your comment that, "there is no need to compare historical notes for all the violences done in the name of islam and christendom alike over the centuries, that is only the opinion of people who are apologists for and enablers of the death and destruction wrought by today's radical Islam. You cannot justify, excuse, or otherwise downplay behavior today based on other peoples' behavior hundreds of years ago. If that were the standard, violence, oppression and ignorance would always and forever be acceptable. It is the 21st century, everyone must be judged by 21st century standards.

American Blacks don't get to enslave whites because they were enslaved 150 years ago. Jews don't get a free pass to kill as many Germans as they can because of what happened 60 years ago. Likewise, radical Muslims don't get to be mouth-frothing-lunatics because they feel they were slighted hundreds of years ago. Perhaps though, I'm reading you wrong, although I think not. I agree there is no need to compare Islam and Christianity over the centuries, but THERE IS a need to compare the two TODAY.

As to your request for forgiveness from me, I request the same from you. I know my tone is, at best, argumentative, but hey, it's my website, I get some leeway.

And finally, as to your statement regarding the Muslim nation where you were born and raised and that "we have returned there in order to minister on behalf of Christ, you and your family are truly in my prayers as I am sure you know full well that openly ministering about Christ in any Mulslim nation literally puts your life at serious risk. In fact, not ministering and just being a professed Christian in a Muslim nation is often not safe.

Finally, if how Christian and Jewish nations and their people treat Muslims versus how Muslim nations and their people treat Christians and Jews doesn't clearly differentiate between the two religions and its parishioners, then nothing will.

Wondermima/mira, let me respond to your last paragraph first.

I have been very careful to be clear that my criticisms are directed only to "radical" Muslims or the small percentage of Muslims that qualify as Islamofascists. I have never directed my comments towards all Muslims. And, I too have had close friends who are Muslims. In fact, if the world is ever to be a peaceful place, it will likely be as the result of peaceful and rational Muslims reigning in the radical element of their religion.

Now as to your question: "I am interested in how you would practically apply "love your enemies, do good to those who hate you", in reference to Muslims... can you expound on that?" While my God wants me to love my neighbor, He doesn't want me to be an idiot and walk into cannon fire with my arms outstretched proclaiming, "I love you."

Let's take an extreme example: If someone has a million children lined up and is going down the row shooting them all in the head, I believe God wants us to stop that person with the least amount of force necessary and if nothing works but blowing that person away then so be it. God does not want us sitting around talking about how much we love the killer while he shoots children as fast as he can pull the trigger and reload. I resolve the alleged conflict between love your enemy and blowing the scum away by praying for his sole.

Just because we are called upon to love our enemy does not mean we do not hold them accountable. If my enemy is committing atrocities then I am called on the help stop that. I do no wish my enemy to suffer and I do not judge my enemy's sole, but I believe it is well within the confines of my faith to try and stop evil.

Imagine a perfect little Christian world where everyone loves everyone else and no one would think of raising a hand against another. And then along comes a Hitler type person whose throwing people in ovens and mass graves as fast as he and his armies can. Should the world stand around professing their love of this person or take up arms to stop him?

It is radical Islam's express objective not to coexist with the rest of the world but, instead, to take over the world and covert or kill everyone who is not a Muslim. We can stop it now while it is a small problem or we can wait until it is either too late or a huge problem. If you are worried about people dying than something needs to be done now.

Finally, as to your comment that, "Our Faith is not differentiated from Islam by how we behave, but by what Christ did for us on the cross." You are absolutely right, that the primary and heart of the difference is Christ's death for our sins. However, as the result of that, Christianity manifests itself in many different ways from Islam including, "how we behave."

Take for example a short person and a really tall person. The difference is objectively just one thing their height. But, as a result, the tall person behaves differently such as ducking under objects more often. The act of ducking is the not the heart of their difference but, rather, a manifestation of their difference. The same with Christianity, the heart of our difference manifests itself in different behavior.

yes, the human body is a glorious and beautiful thing, created in God's image, but he did command us to dress it modestly-1 tim 2:9

Can someone explain to me WHY god commanded you guys to keep your bodies covered up and be modest? Why shouldn't we enjoy one another's bodies and beauty? Why do do you have to pretend your body doesn't exist, and that only your "soul" does, when you know it's not true. Every person has sexual desires and shutting those desires down or trying to is not healthy, mentally or physically. People are going to stare at you one way or another, particularly in these ridiculous suits.

The poor girls would drown in these type of bathing costumes.

I guess I'm really surprised. If you're covering the body because it's sacred, why aren't you covering the entire body? Is the face less sacred than what you've covered? Are the hands, and arms, and feet, and lower legs, and neck less sacred?

If you truly believe you're covering the body because it's sacred, then I would suggest you have to cover the entire body because the entire body is either sacred or it's not. I don't think you can say that only certain body parts are sacred and others aren't, can you? Or, are you just buying into what society considers to be "sacred"? What's the truth of the matter?

Further, if you're covering the body because you want to cover the "sexual" body parts so as not to "tempt" the poor men who have no control over their thoughts, again, why aren't you covering the entire body? Are you not aware that for most men the most sexually attractive part of a woman is her face? Are you not aware that people never use just their genitals to have sex, but rather use their entire body when making love? For example, are you not aware that people use their hands and lips far more than any other part of the body when making love? Are you not aware that there are absolutely no primary sexual body parts that are exposed when a person is naked? If you're trying to cover the "sexual" body parts, then again wouldn't you have to cover the entire body because the entire body becomes sexual when 2 people are making love? What's the truth of the matter?

In addition, are you not aware that the viewer is totally responsible for their own thoughts, not the viewee? Are you not aware that if the viewer should so choose, he can think inappropriate thoughts about you regardless of what you wear? And wouldn't you agree that we should have such purity of thought that we should be able to look upon a beautiful naked woman (or man, for that matter) and have no difficulty maintaining that purity of thought? After all, can't God do that? And aren't we all trying to become like God? It seems to me that you're using clothing as a substitute for a pure heart and mind.

Finally, aren't you aware that what you're doing is exactly what the pornography and sex industries want you to do so they can continue to thrive and grow? I mean think about it: what conditions have to exist for the pornography and sex industries to exist and thrive?

First, we have to identify certain body parts as being sexual all the time. Second, we have to make sure we cover those body parts all the time. Third, we have to create fear about uncovering those body parts. We have to make it forbidden to both uncover those body parts for others to see as well as to view those uncovered body parts, all so we can maximize the curiosity factor. Finally, we then can charge money to uncover those body parts. What a great way to exploit people and make money!

OK, I'll throw out one more thing that I'm sure you haven't really considered: Let's go back to the dark ages, when Satan ruled (after all, there's a reason it's called the Dark Ages, isn't there?). If the body is sacred and therefore should be covered up at all costs, as you suggest, what were the clothing styles like back then? Wouldn't it be reasonable to conclude that if it's true that the body is sacred and should be covered up, this would be a period of immense decadence with people running around naked and committing all kinds of wickedness? Yet, what's the truth of the matter?

It was during the Dark Ages that the people were convinced that the body was evil and therefore should be covered at all costs. It was during this period that the people wore the most clothes ever in the history of mankind. Layer upon layer of clothes covering all but the face. They even went so far as to cover piano legs so as not to tempt the poor, weak men.

Later, we gained a new understanding of the sacredness of the body and dispelled the error that the body is evil. Interestingly, now people claimed that the body is sacred and should be covered at all costs. That belief has been carried forth to our day. The question is this: which is the truth -- "the body is evil and should be covered?"; or, "the body is sacred and should be covered?"

Both ideas can't be true. So, which is it? If you say that the true idea is that the body is sacred and should be covered, then in the Dark Ages why didn't Satan convince the people to run around naked all the time? Why instead did the people actually wear the most clothes? Isn't entirely possible that both ideas are false?

For me, I believe the body is sacred, and that that sacredness is maintained by purity of thought and belief, not by clothing or any other artificial form of "righteousness." I would suggest we start focusing on the real core of the issue (purity of heart and mind, which is where real modesty resides) rather than using substitutes, like clothing.

But that's just me.

i am sure that Shaquita meant that to those that are rejecting the idea of modesty and not admitting that the bible is truth- enjoy the fire and brimstone. That is all there will be if you reject the bible and god-if you are not saved, you will be going to hell- modesty or not!!!!!

I am very surprised by what I have read here today. Many of the responses that I have read are very childish and very liberal if I may say so. Whether men choose to admit to themselves or not, women would be causing them to lust by showing off their private body parts. As a woman, I do not want any man, other than my husband, to see my body in that way and would not put myself in the position for a man to make the choice of whether or not he "chooses" to lust after me.

While I may not personally prefer to wear the swimsuits that the named site has created, I am proud that there is a Godly person (or persons) out there that makes these swimsuits for others that would like to keep their bodies private. Thank you. While many people women or men do not care about seeing women running around the beach in their underwear- as I do agree that a bathing suit is no different than your undergarments, and some bathing suits are even more revealing- I do care and am glad to see the initiative to get women to put some clothes on. :) The Bible says that women are to dress modestly, and I am sorry, but skin tight bathing suits and bikinis are not modest when you can see all the things a women should be covering in public.

Sadly, women today feel that they need to show off their bodies to get some attention- and yes that is all it is for is attention. Sadly, it seems that many of the comments I have read from men seem to be to discourage the covering of women, I wonder why... hmmm, could it be because they want the chance to have a peek?

bible 1, women 0. surprise surprise, men aren't expected to cover up.

nice to know god loves us and all, what with everybody being equal. but if you're a woman and you wear a bikini, you're going to burn in hell. shame on you! god loves you. of course.

hah.

People, GET A LIFE!!!!
This website was created for people who were looking for modest swimwear, THAT"S IT!!! If you don't like the styles that are shown here, look for a website that has what you want. Why waste your time offending people because of their taste and sense of style? Worry about your own style!!! Like I said before, GET A LIFE!!!!!!!

It is amazing how many differing opinions there are out there.....but......It really comes down to this......SWIMSUITS are NOT the important thing. It's just like the Devil to get us to focus on something as menial as swimwear. Your walk with God is..........and if your not one of his, you cannot walk with Him. He loves us ALL. He is "not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance" "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotton Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life"(John 3:16).

All a person needs to do is realize their sin and their need for Jesus "If we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins" , Repent from our sins, and Ask the Lord to save us!

THEN, after that.................the Bible says "Work out your OWN salvation with fear and trembling" In other words, You listen to God and HE will tell you what he wants you do to! One day He may talk to you about modesty....If he says you shouldn't wear bikinis, then listen! If he doesn't then don't worry about it, just worry about serving God who LOVES us with a GREAT love!!!!!!

Georgia Dee,

Well to be honest all of you make your country look like it has come nowhere since the puritans

You say like it's a bad thing. Oh, that we were only more like the Puritans. All that strays from them is not necessarily a good thing.

you should really find somthing more productive with your time

Amen. But, we are all entitled to hobbies. You know like criticising others for not being more productive with their time.

Who really cares about having a bit of flesh on show

Ummm...everyone is one way or another.

Are you not proud of what God gave you?

God also gave us free will and I'm not so proud of what people, including myself, do with that. For a more explicit example, God gave us the ability to kill each other, not so proud of everyone's use of this. Hey, look at me I have free will...show a little restraint. Hey, look at me and the body God gave me...same thing, show a little restraint.

I am a 15 year old Christian. I'd just like to say that I was laughing when I first encountered this site. The whole thing seemes so rediculous to me, making a mountian out of a molehill. And, infact come to think of it, shrouding youself in all that cloth is maing a mountain...

There is such thing as 'first impressions', infact one of the stages of love is indeed 'PHYSICAL ATTRACTION'. How else do you catch a persons eye, what makes them want to come and talk to you? You have to look nice, and appealing. True, sexy and cute can be nice, however heart surgery tops, and upper thigh surgery pants or skirts, will not attract the right type of attention either. There is a happy medium.

It is how you behave and appear to others that can make 'immodest' or modest'. It is in how you conduct yourself. I have often seen people covered from neck to ankle (maxi-dresses anyone?) and they can still look..mm, pardon the word, sluttish. They achieve this through a provoative shake of the hips, head, and a self-counscious gaze.

Showing A BIT of skin is healthy, and builds healthy relatioships. It builds trust between people; acceptance for WHO you are, regardeless of physical appearance although it IS there.

How about hugging a man. Or a man huggin a woman. Oh dear, their curvy (or not so curvy) BREASTS, may touch him. If this man is indeed the person you should be hugging, he will only be aware of your presence, your warthm , the security that you transmit via physical contact.

Don't take things too far. That's all. I'm feeling frustrated right now. All these extremists. One day I will give my heart, mind, and body to another man. However, I havn't yet found that person (at 15..) and when I do, I will continue to dress attractively.

To me it shows maturity to be comfortable in exposing some of your nature in what you wear. It's a statement; "This is me", this shows you what I think of myself. It reveals your personality, part of the essnce of who YOU are. Just don't think about it too much, there is no need to cause a storm in a teacup. Behave with propriety. Dress attractively, yet not seductively. That is all.

GOSH!

I have to admit, I was laughing when I read through some of these comments. Nothing can prevent a man from looking at you with 'dirty' thoughts.

check out this also:

http://stanosheck.com/Modesty.html

Fellow Creation, We have a duty to our Creator, the One and Only Most High God to glorify Him for who He is, not how this makes us feel but all about what He deserves. Our obedience to His will and our response to Him should be obvious . May He receive the reward of His suffering. God has commanded us to be modest. To dress in modest apparel. People, especially women have started to dress in tighter and more revealing clothing than ever in history. Less than 100 years ago women in this country covered their heads in fufilment of the scriptures and wore modest clothing. I think we can dress modestly now days without standing out too much. Modest actually means to not draw attention to yourself. I like to dress in such a way as to be modest (no pants cuz if they fit they are going to draw attention to your crotch or but or even thighs, unless you're quite thin and not "curvy" and still pants show the parts that catch the guys attention.)I like to dress in a way that I feel fits into my society without compromising purity. I actually would like to have a web-site with a fashion-type show to just give some "cool and funky" type modest fashions that can be purchased at a thrift store and who knows maybe purchased my daughter and I can sew them. I have put together some cute stuff. You can go to a thrift store and buy some capris and look for a short sleeve or long sleeve dress that is above the knees (try to make the dress and capris match) and put these two together to have a somewhat Indian looking really practical, fun-ky, comfortable, modest outfit. I know this is not for everyone, but this is my favorite summer outfits and if I could find long sleeve shorter dresses like I described I would match them with some loose draw string pants and a layer underneath the pants and long sleeve dress for winter. I really hope this outfit idea helps someone to be more modest. I don't like the narrow type skirts that you can't climb onto a bike while wearing and I hate the slits that most of them have and I feel like a tent in the really wide skirt so this outfit is really great for me when matched with some cute scarf or other head covering. I love all of you and hope God will lead you to do His will and then we will be truly beautiful!

Wow. Anyone who would make their children dress this way for Jesus or Muhammed is a creep.

I think that these swimsuits restrict proper swimming- there is no way to successfully excerise in the water or enjoy swimming for what it is, if you wear these suits. What I do, and I think what has worked best, is participate in non-coed swimming at my local country club. The pool is available only to women at certain hours, and only to men at certain hours. I am able to wear a normal suit, swim laps, feel free, and there is no question on modesty. You should inquire at your church/club/organization if this type of system is possible.

I have no problem against people wearing these swimsuits - they're not my style but if a person wishes to wear them there should be no moral objection to that. I don't agree with the people who judge people who wish to purchase these suits - saying they are wacky for wearing them- but i also don't agree with those people who attack other people who don't like the swimsuits and play the whole 'i am holier than thou' role because they enjoy the suits. I myself think they look a bit strange and cumbersome but that's just me. I'm a strong believer in modesty - i believe it is right for a woman to cover her body appropriately not just to stop the 'prying eyes' of men but retain her dignity - release that her beauty isn't dependant on her flaunting her body in front of everyone. But i also believe that it's quite alright to where fashionable clothes - i agree with someone who said that being attractive doesn't mean you're being immodest. I think it's good for women to wear pants, and jeans, and shorts (not short shorts) if they so wish and i know that i myself feel most comfortable in pants rather than a skirt - in a way i feel more modest because i am not bearing my legs (which are rather long) unless i wish too and i'm not in danger of 'flashing'.
Women who wish to only ever wear skirts or dresses - that is their choice but that doesn't mean they r any better than the women who wear pants - as long as both styles of clothing are worn in the appropriate fashion they are both modest.
One other thing i don't agree with is the comment made along while ago that it is women's fault that men sin with their eyes - i find that comment degrading to both men and women - it implies that women are evil seductresses out to drag men into their little sinful world and it also implies that men don't possess a free will. In a society where so often an impure image is before the eyes or is generated in the mind by conversation it is the choice of the person using their free will whether or not they will entertain such thoughts - it is not a sin to be tempted -it's a sin to give into the temptation. When a man sees a woman who may be dressed immodestly , yes that women has helped the situation in her dress and attitude but it is the choice of the man whether or not to pursue the temptation - men aren't idiots. Still it is best not to intially tempt them.

Back to the swim suits - i myself wear a one piece though not as covering as this swimsuit i still feel modest - i wear board shorts and usually a t'shirt (otherwise i just burn - darn sun) - but i know plenty of people who are good friends of mine who wear bikinis and i know they are good people who are good Christians they jsut have a different and i would say lovingly, an underdeveloped sense of what modesty is - yet this doesn't change the fact that they aren't evil and trying to pull the foundations of Christianity down by wearing a bikini.
God is merciful and God is understanding - He realises when a certain amount of ignorance is present or a lack of understanding. The problem with most people is that they are ignorant and if people are just going to maintain the 'holier than thou stance' they will never be informed in a way that they will accept - condescention (spelt that wrong) is never a way to get a message across.

Also (i know i'm ranting but this is a long convo - jeeweez it's like 2yrs) - the idea expressed of limiting contact between the two sexes i personally find a little creepy - that a simple hug could imply so much i didn't consider - thing is that an act such as a hug is just an innocent act - if pursued with innocent intentions and if people wish to find explicit meanings in the action that is the work of an overactive sense of morality (it is possible) - where morality is taken to the point of being ridiculous. I think it is important that girls have friends who are boys and vica versa - it builds a healthy ability to converse with both the sexes without having the constant idea of 'every boy i meet could be my potential future husband'.
But as stated before we've made a mountain out of a mole hill.
'So do not worry about tomorrow: it will have enough worries of it's own. There is no need to add to the troubles each day brings. (Matt 6 L34)

Being modest doesn't mean u can't b attractive - or draw attention - i don't think saying that just because these swimsuits draw attention it makes the wearer immodest is a valid excuse against people wearin this swim wear - if ppl chose to wear swimwear that is - what i personally think ugly (evryone's different) swimwear - that aren't immodest or provocative it is their choice. That is one thing - choice - i don't think ppl should b forced to wear these if they don't want to. But if a person wishes to wear them despite the gawks of other people they can go for their lives.
Anyway i think they're ugly - others think they look great - some like red others don't - ppl shouldn't sling around crap - name calling and stuff - jeez - just over a difference of opinion over a bunch of swimwear pieces.
Well it's amazing how a couple of swimwear pieces have brought up so much tension on the subject of modesty - strewth.
byee

Hi girls. After reading all of your comments I think you should know about a company that has modest swimwear and yet is cute! Actually absolutely darling! go to diviinemodestee.com
They are a Christian company that has fashionable clothing and swim suits that are completely modest. I have one of their suits and their shirts and I love them! I am a devout Christian with high morals, but I really believe that God wants us to look beautiful as well. This company offers darling fashion without exposure to the world. Also read the tribute of the motherand daughter section where the owner gives tribute to her mother for her stand on modesty. It is beautiful and makes me want in everyway to give my mom this tribute as well. God is good. God is love and God gave us our beautiful bodies to show him we love him by being modest. The owner is beautiful of Diviine ModesTee and she truly is setting an example as she is a mother herself. I love you all and commend you for your stand on modesty. We may be the minority but someday when Christ comes again we have his smile upon us for standing against this world and maintaining our integrity and modesty.

Hi! Ahh...yeah, I've been reading all these comments, and they make me sad. You know, beauty is okay. That's something I've just learned. I grew up in a conservative family, where in my early teenage years I wore shorts and a t-shirt swimming (very unattractive, and very long). I remember I girl saying, "Oh, you're wearing actual SHORTS!" in a scoffing way--you know, instead of wearing coulettes or a skirt. But you know what? Despite having the conservative past, I was still sexually abused. See, sin is sin and it's eerywhere. It really is--and I really believe it's around in conservative circles as well, although it's supressed because of the stigma (well, that's everywhere, but especially somewhere where it shouldn't have happened. Silence is sometimes a terrible burden). Anyway, I'm getting married soon, and that's been interesting. It's been interesting hearing the phrase, "You're beautiful" in an absolutely pure way. Because you see, I had attributed beauty with pain, and wanted so much to hide it. But God doesn't make mistakes. Ever. He made you the way HE made you.

That doesn't mean you walk around naked, but it does mean you accept grace. I don't wear sacks anymore--I wear board shorts and swimsuits (mostly) while swimming, because I'm rather athletic and do a lot of water skiing, wakeboarding, swimming, and...well, water. You know, sacks cause rashes. It's sometimes painful. Polyster is a beautiful thing. It's really a lot more practical.

Amen. We can be free. You know, you can sin--you can try to prevent sin--but it's totally the intent of your heart that will come out in outward ways. Crap outward. Let's see what's in the heart. It's better. It'll come out, eventually, anyway.

Guide us Jesus. Let your will be done on earth, as it is in heaven. And let's see your kingdom come.

I'm 16 and I wouldn't be caught dead in one of those swimsuits mentioned in the first few comments. wouldnt those swimsuits also pose as a drowning hazard for those who cant swim as well as others? i mean seriously look at how much fabric there is! its crazy! however, i'm also a christian, i love being modest, but i dont think theres anything wrong with flattering yourself. (not being provocative, mind you). I also HATE taking off my whole one piece to go to the bathroom.

My solution over the past three years has been tankinis, however the past two years, it has been hard to find one that isnt too low or too short. I personally LOVE the suits at modbeclothing.com and diviinemodestee.com.

WOW!!!
I amamazed at what some of you have said.
we all need to be modest! no mater what the age!!there is no
extreme when it comes to being modest!!
i am amamazed that pepole can even wear some of the swimsuits today!! i would rather have pepole stare at me because i am being "too" modest ( NO SUCH THING!) than have pepole look at me in the wrong way!.

These suits are setting kids up for being the 'weird kid' in life. As you may know, kids can be mean and these suits are not going ot help the situation. I am not saying that the clothes out there now for kids are appropriate these days, but I mean this is taking it to a total extreme. If I saw a child in this suit then I would wonder what her parents where thinking. Giving them no freedom now is going to set them up for a huge shock when they get older. You can't remain innocent forever.

Hello,
i googled "modest swimwear", and this is one of the sites i found. i used to have wholesome wear, and i don't really like it. the vest thingee got to me. now i'm selling a modest swimsuits thats really cool. the website is: www.stitchintimes.com. they are made by an amish lady. (believe it or not!) but i like them a lot better.

F*** THIS S***. seriously people, what the [heck]? modesty is stupid and a waste of time. i walk around not wearing very much if i feel like it. the other day i got sand in my jeans from being thrown on the ground by some of my friends (as a joke, they're not abusive), and so i just took my pants off and emptied the sand out of them. my friends consisted of one girl and two boys ( i am a girl), and no one freaked out or even cared. get over it. people have bodies.

hi all,
ok when i wss reading denise's comment i almost freaked - that was a cracker!
And Patti - modesty isn't stupid - modesty taken to the extreme makes people look ridiculous but modesty on the whole is good - it shows a dignity that a person naturally has all the better. You think if a guy looks at a girl wearing hardly a thing that he's thinking of what a nice girl she is and how he'd like to get to know better such a person. More likely a guy with loose morality would be thinking things slightly less g rated, a good man would mostly likely pity the girl who feels they need to bare parts of their body in order to feel a sense of worth - sexual worth really. Anyway I don't condemn anyone who wears immodest clothing - that's their choice (doesn't mean it's right) - but those who do shouldn't condemn those who wear modest clothing and believe modesty isn't stupid and visa versa etc etc.
Well that's enough monologueing at a computer
byee

I have to admit I was very suprised when I first saw these swimsuits. I did think they were very ugly. But the more comments I read about them, the better I like them. I am very proud of all the girls out there who are trying their best to be modest! I do have a comment that I haven't seen anyone else post. I was raised and am raising my children that you just don't go swimming in mixed company!!!!!!

Well...I'm beautiful, young and I'm hot. I am lucky to have a skinny perfect body, long legs, flat stomach, and a great figure... and I can eat whatever I want and still stay like super skinny. So I am going to relish in my beautiful youth and wear sexy bikinis because I am confident and they make me feel confident. Other men can lust but who cares, in their dreams right, HA! They'll never have me, only my awesome boyfriend who super approves of what I wear as is. So blah, that's just my opinion.

I have been in church for 4 1/2 years. I recieved the baptism of the Holy Ghost about 5 months after being baptized in the name of Jesus. Since then I have many convictions about my appearance. My mother sarted putting lip gloss on me at a very young age and dressing me up like a Barbie. My whole life I have been told that I was a beautiful woman and I have always had attention from men in all directions. I have always been confident and really did not pay as much attention to the attention as friends and boyfriends did. My mother told me to take care of myself and my appearance for me, to look good for me. I was never, even before the Lord a trashy dresser that flashed everything, and had my own style irreguardless of fads. However, I was always "made up". I was tasteful but there was nothing natural about my appearance. When I met my husband and was introduced to the true spirit of God in his families church, all I had been raised to be and look like changed. I am 32 years old, I lived a full but "dead" life without the lord for 28 years. There has to be something that the rest of the world sees in God's own that they want. They have to see Jesus in us. The way I guage if I should do something or not is first by the word of God. If it says "do not" then don't! If there is mystery in the scripture than I PRAY! The Lord revealed to me very early on how to know in my heart if something was of him. He is everywhere, omnipresent, he sees everything within us and around. If you see these woman wearing these swimsuits and wonder why they have such a devotion to God in their hearts. Ask yourself this, Knowing Jesus is Lord of Lords and with you every step in life you take, by your side. Would you walk down the beach with him talking and laughing with what you normally wear at the beach on? Would you be ashamed? We are not suppose to cause stumbling blocks for one another, but to exort each other and lift one another up. Do you buy your clothes with the intention to draw attention to yourself?We have to all seek out our own salvation.If anyone thinks that everything that God has shown you is right for everyone else at that very moment than you are mistaken.There is a standard though. The word of god describes many times what the world should see in you if you truly live for him. When you go buy your bathing suit and look in the mirror, Do you say "I look hot" or do you think this is "comfortable". When I went to get a swimsuit last year I was devistated. How do you feel uncomfortable wearing pants and shorts and feel good about wearing a bathing suit that is made of less material than the clothing you wear? That is what I asked myself. Now when I try one on I want to look attractive to my husband but covered for the rest of the world. The difference in a Godly man though is that he will want you to look like you love the Lord and not the way you look to others . You don't have to look "bla". If you are beautiful, you are going to look beautiful no matter how much more you cover your body. Why worry about what people think about what you are going to swim in. If you are wearing it truly to swim than it should be safe, comfortable & easy to move around in.The Bible is very solid about doctrine for a reason of course. Man has added the "bi-laws". I thank God for showing me to rightly devide his word. I thank him for giving me the strength to seperate myself from the world. It did not happen overnight. There are some women in my church that are at a different level of understanding about certain revelations in Christ and the word.There love for him is no less than my own. They still uphold a modest standard of appearance even if it is not as strict as my own that I have for myself. When I look in the mirror now I see God's true creation in me more and more daily. I don't not cut my hair to look more holy, I leave it uncut because the Lord says I will have the power of angels in my uncut hair. I wear skirts now not because many of my sisters do but because I want the world to know I am in submission to my head.My husband. My God. I don't wear colors all over my face anymore because I want to look natural and clean. I don't want attention from other men or anyone else. On the other hand I know women that don't wear pants but let their daughters wear skirts three inches below there bottoms. If the knelt to pray for someone at the alter they would show the church their private areas. The deffinition of modessty is found within your own heart. When people look at you do you reflect the image of the living God or of a dead world. I don't know which of these sites I will purchase a modest swimsuit from but I know I will have one. I would rather draw attention to myself in the name of Jesus and modesty than because I have on the latest trendy two piece that I could wear as well as anyone else. They make natural make up if you have skin conditions and need a little concealer (Bare Minerals is great) I use a light powder the color of my own skin and clear mascara and "softlips" on my lips and sometimes a little bronzer in the summer. You cannot even tell I have anything on my face. The Lord has kept my hair in wonderful condition, just as he kept the children of Israel's clothing in good repair and I don't touch it with scissors. I know as well that the fun I will have swimming will not be hindered by my clothing because I don't wear a two piece any longer. My only point in all of this is. Because I lived as part of the world I know the "world" will always find justification for what it wants to do.
I am very proud of some of the testimonies I have read on this page that are clearly from spirit filled brothers & sisters. Just as the natural Army has many different members with numerous jobs so it is also in the Army of God. Please let us all remember that maybe our individual degrees of conviction are due to the power required in our individual jobs within his Army. Maybe the woman born into an atmosphere of "extreme" modesty would be a harlot if she didn't dress just so. And if she ever felt the attention from the world she may be distracted from the true purpose God has set aside in her life. When I am in a store or anywhere really and I meet someone else's gaze I ask the Lord to let them see him, not me. To all of you that Have gloified God with your testimony on here, thank you for being bold and obedient. To those of you that "relish"in yourselves & your appearance know this. Fact: The one thing in the Bible that no religion or faith can argue is this, we were created to "relish" in God above ourselves. To live everyday to glorify him as much as possible. When people look at you do they say "there is a true friend of Jesus?" I thank God for delivering me from the bondage of a superficial world.

If you are interested in modest swim suits check out this site too.
I think these look nice enough to wear.

http://www.modest-swimwear.net/

Lands End also gives you modest choices

Excellent analogy Turandot!

Choosing to wear one of these swimsuits in a free, open and democratic society where the rights of everyone are protected is so close to being forced under penalty of death to wear a burka, niqab, chador, khimar or hijab in a fanatical society run by extremist zealots where women can be raped and killed with impunity.

Great comment, please stop by again to share your thoughts with us. Alternatively, take a vacation to Iran, where whatever clothes you want, maybe pull out a Bible in downtown Tehran, enjoy!

Umm.. why would God not want us women to wear pants?!

I don't understand.

Oh lord. What has the world come to?

Tasha,

Of course a woman should never be blamed for being raped. However, there are common sense steps a person should take as they go through life.

It's no different than when a person gets robbed, you wouldn't blame a person who gets robbed. But, at they same time it isn't very smart to go to a bad neighborhood with lots a cash sticking out of your pockets and purse and drink until you pass out drunk. It wouldn't be surprising if such a person got robbed as they clearly didn't act with much common sense.

I would never blame the victim of rape or robbery, it's still the criminal's fault and not the victim's. However, you cannot ignore the fact that how people behave throughout their life will either maximize the likelihood of outcomes that are positive or outcomes that are negative.

hahaaaaaahahaahaa yeah well i personnaly think this is hilarious. i've been able to find a swimsuit that i'm comfortable around and if there is a problem of where i wear it, i wear t'shirt and shorts over it. i don't think we need to go to these extremes to be modest. and the price is soo ridiculious. modesty should not be soooooo expensive.

good comment Don - and it's true.
I see no reason also why a woman wouldn't be allowed to wear pants. There has been to proclamation from any Church that i know of - including my own saying that it is immodest or a sin for a woman to wear pants. I find them more comfortable and i feel more covered whne i wear them because i don't have the fear that i will flash any undergarments - ha
anyway - in a matter such as this it does come down to choice, but there still is the better choice

I think that it is more a choice. There are other ways to practice modesty in swimwear. I respect ANYONE who chooses to wear more modest clothing, especially in swimwear, regardless of how it looks. I personally wouldn't wear the swimsuits you specified, I take a different approach to modest swimwear, if you want descriptions, feel free to check out my blog.

I've started my own "anti-fashion" blog, and swimwear is the first thing I am attacking. And giving my own insight on.

I think those swimsuits would be a nice change from what is available in stores. My family didn't like the suits so I got mine at christa-taylor.com . I love the fact that my suit is a sleeveless rash guard and board shorts when nature calls and it doesn't cling too much. having worked in nursing homes the thought of all men walking around nude is very horrifying.

I think girls should be more modest than these swimsuits even because some girls even let thee fingers show!!!!!!
Im just kidding modesty is good.........

THESE BATHINGSUITS ARE FREAKIN CRAZY!!!!!! I would give up going to the beach for the rest of my life if I had to wear these hideous things. I hope the models in the pictures were paid a lot money to be seen in public and photographed in those horrible suits. Geh. I mean, c'mon people. A lot of you sound like total wackos. I believe in modesty but, you all sound like a bunch of prudes who think your better than everyone else. Quit acting like the poor girls who walk around in bikinis are deranged demon animals. Maybe their parents aren't aware of what they're letting their girls do. I pitty those girls, not hate on em' like you all do.

I live in the UK. I take my holidays at a naturist resort/beach in France. 60,000 people happily enjoying the beach and sun in the nude. Full of crazy perverts and lustful men. Not at all, just normal people realising that the human body nude is not a nasty, dirty, sinful thing, and, incidentally, kids take not a bit of notice of nude adults, they are to busy making sand castles and swimming. At least they will grow up with a healthy, normal attiitude.

You should all try a topfree or nudist beach
for a day or two and get over it. Christians use the word modesty or indecency when they really mean body shame.

Clothing does not make you superior to someone
who is naked. This is nothing but Puritanism
and has little to do with Christianity, Islam
or Judaism. What is a real shame is that you
have to spend the rest of your lives hating
your bodies. Why do males get to take off
their shirts at the beach and females do not?
To dominate and make money off of females.

It never used to be like this. Both sexes
wore little or no clothing through out 98-99%
of human history.

The Church and State make a lot of money off
of your shame. The Church uses nudity as a
device to lay guilt on everyone about sex.
The State gets large sums of revenue from the
the sale of pornography, while saying that
they have passed laws to fight it. The worst
thing that females could do to combat pornography would be to go nude at the beach.
Nudity is the major draw for pornography.

Females should at least go topfree. Just like
males do. I’ll bet that if you did for 10 or
15 minutes you would probably do for the rest
of your life. Turn back the clock to way it used
to be. Start asking the males around you why
their chests are considered normal and decent
and yours is not. It would be great if every
State would encourage females to go one summer
topfree. Most would never put that top or one-
piece back on.

I LOVVVVEEE these suits... not only do I wear them to the beach but i have one for every day of the week, and I like to wear them to my classes, as well as dance. I think that showing off anything that could be lustful to man is absolutely rediculous, and desreves disiplne. The only thing on my body that I show are my eyes, I was taught as a child that my ankles, wrists, neck and everything in between were to be covered, so I would not attract the attention of men. I LOVE THESE SUITS. MODESTY ROCKS!!!!

Here is a cute, customizable suit for those who would like to sew their own.

whttp://www.biblicalwomanhood.com/fmpswimwearpatterns.htm

I own one of the WholesomeWear swimsuits, and I love it. Before I got this suit I would swim in my dress with shorts underneath. The WholesomeWear suits are comfortable and easy to swim in.
I have read every reply on this forum, and I'm surprised at how heated this topic gets, simply because some people choose to wear this suit.
I am a 14 year old home-schooled girl and I have worn dresses my whole life. My mom is not forcing me to do this, nor is she ruling me “with an iron fist”, as some people have assumed.
I have learned a sense of modestly, and it appears to me that many are taught to ignore their natural instinct to be modest until showing a lot of skin no longer bothers them.
I choose not to reveal anything that would be better saved for my future husband. The Bible says “Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother’s way.” Romans 14:13. Because of this Biblical principle, I choose to keep my body modestly covered.
Some people have pointed out that being modest means not to attract attention, and this suit will surely attract attention. These people seem to miss the whole point of being modest, because while these suits may make people notice you, you will not attract the wrong kind of attention.
Yes, I deal with peer pressure, because my home schooled friends don't dress as I do, but I can stand it because I know I'm doing the right thing.

Caitlin, I just happened across your comment and it truly saddened me. If you are truly saved, then, yes, God DOES love you, but he doesn't love what you are doing with the body he gave you FOR THE HUSBAND YOU MAY (or may not) EVENTUALLY MARRY. When I was your age (only six years ago), I would never have worn a string bikini ANYWHERE. One SHOULD be ashamed at such behavior, when the bible clearly states that women are to dress modestly. Modesty does not equal a string bikini, that boys AND men will see and may lust after your body.

I know many girls and young (and not-so-young) women tell themselves that it is a MAN's fault for not being able to control himself if he lusts after a woman, and that is not entirely untrue. Yes, there are some men out there who will lust after a woman with messed up hair, no makeup, and wearing sweatpants that cover her from neck to ankles, but the simple fact is that the way a woman dresses sends a message to any man (or person in general) that sees her. A woman or girl wearing very little clothing (especially when she COULD wear MORE) says to the casual observer "I'm hot, I know it, you want it, and you might just have it." In fact, it's more likely read as "Come and get it." Where as a woman dressed modestly, with her bust and butt covered among other things, will not draw attention to her body, but to other aspects (personality, beliefs, etc.).

I hope and pray that the Lord convicts you of this soon, and that nothing bad happens to you before (or after) then as a result of your current style of dress.
P.S. The bible doesn't say that God loves everyone; just those whom He has called according to His purposes, those who are saved.

this is ridiculous! talk about a tan line!! no one wants to swim in a full suit. I know that people should not be exploited but god excepts everyone the way they are not if they are dressed modestly or not. the person modeling the one on the far right looks like a man(just so you know). Whoever wears this is going to be stared at and laughed at. People are not going to be atracted to you if it looks like you are insecure with you body and feel the need to cover it so much!!! I never seen anyone wear this before. The first time i saw this i was on www.perezhilton.com and the comments people left where hilarious. But i dont think people should be so incredibly stuck up on covering up!!

I see these swimsuits as offering a choice to those who would like to wear something more modest. Being allowed freedom of choice is what this is about. If your fashion sense is hurt by this swimsuit, you don't have to wear it! Why must there be such a debate about decency when the skimpiest thong doesn't get noticed anymore? I applaud the mothers who encourage and support their daughters in respecting their bodies and not bare themselves as our popular culture as would like us to; a culture that is dictated by perverse middle- aged men out to make a fast buck.

Here I was just looking for some "modest" swimwear to cover my far-less-than-perfect body and I come across this website during my search. I'm old enough (almost 65) to NOT care what other people think, but young enough to care how I look in a bathing suit. We're going on a vacation in Dec. and I want to join my hubby in a natural hot spring and maybe even the pools we encounter. No way I can lose weight & tone up enough in time remaining and I would be embarrassed to let it all hang out! Even if I were slim and trim, I'd still prefer modest wear. My granddaughters show too much cleavage, midrift and all to suit my taste.

Megan,

You criticize people for "preaching about your ideas" and that it makes people "look like an idiot" because it won't "change what others think." Have you ever heard of the concept of hypocrisy? I think you might be amazed to find your picture next to the definition if you bothered to look it up. You are doing exactly what you are criticizing others for doing, but just on a different topic.

Using your exact words, criticisms and creative spelling: "You...think preaching about your ideas of [what people should comment about] is going to change what others think. You are sooo wrong. Most of the time ppl could care less what you have to say. So unless its asked for don't give your oppinions. It makes you look like an idiot and ppl will try to stay away from you. Try telling everyone you meet all your oppinions on [what people should comment about] and then see how many friends you have!!"

While I might agree that very few opinions are changed by what people say on the internet, what about people who haven't yet formed an opinion? Might such comments be useful to such people as they learn, explore and develop their own ideas about modesty or even the topic of what people should post and comment about on the internet? Or, do you believe everyone's opinions are genetically formed at birth and nothing they see or hear could ever influence them? Please, the next time you think about commenting,