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Jun 15 2004

Modest Swimwear

If I ever have a daughter, these are the swimsuits she will wear:

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Obviously, I'm just kidding...like I'd ever let my daughter go swimming!

For the record, these are real swimsuits that are available for purchase.

Posted by Don |

403 Comments

  1. #1
    Deidra and Drew said on June 16, 2004 | Reply

    The swimsuit site is absolutely funny. I sent the link to some people I know since we actually know of a parent that will not let their 30, yes 30! year old daughter wear swimsuits in public because of boys. She still lives at home, with no job, no college, has never kissed a boy, held a boys hand. She is not allowed to date, only be courted. No, she is not mentally or handicapped or challenged. She is actually a nice looking person.

  2. #2
    Jaguar said on June 30, 2004 | Reply

    Amazing what a negative response this site draws, and it's nothing but a site for people who want to enjoy swimming and still live up to their personal convictions. Maybe you don't like the suits, but nobody is forcing you to order. What ever happened to tolerance for people with differing views? Oh yeah, I guess it only applies if the different person is doing something immoral.

  3. #3
    Stentor said on July 24, 2004 | Reply

    I believe they used to wear swimsuits of that type (hence the name suit) back in the 20s and 30s.

  4. I bet they have great export sales with the optional bee-keeper bonnet?

  5. #5
    whitney said on March 18, 2005 | Reply

    this is a cool site... if you are brave enough to wear that i look up to you. im a christian and i believe in being modest at all times... but.... cant you be cute while doing it? do you think you might have taken it a little to far here? im not trying to be rude in any way... im just courious

  6. #6
    Don said on March 18, 2005 | Reply

    Yes, I've "taken it a little too far"...that's why it's funny!

  7. #7
    Tracey said on April 27, 2005 | Reply

    And then there are those of us raising truly wholesome children - that appreciate the modesty and comfort of these suits for real... People who have "real" kids - that are waiting for marriage to kiss... who don't like to tempt the opposite sex with what they will not give them. Who believe there are still virtues. Who don't want to live the worldly lifestyles. Several who are now happily married or working good jobs and "successful" in life - computer programming, training horses, teaching..... There really are people out there happily living such lives. I am thankful to be one of them.

  8. #8
    Viki said on June 13, 2005 | Reply

    WOW I love these suits. No reason for a woman or girl to expose herself to play in the water. Sure if I could have told privacy I wouldn't necessarily want to be so well covered, but when I'm at a public lake or beach I don't want worry about exposing myself.

    Sorry to ruin the fun those who enjoy watching the beautiful bodies at the beach, but I don't think a girl or woman should be out in public in her underwear and that's what most swimsuits look like.

    I sicken me that so many young women today don't think their body is a special thing to only be shared with that special someone. Most take the attitude of either looking for the attention or figuring it doesn't mater.

  9. #9
    kate said on June 15, 2005 | Reply

    since when does the Bible condone complete prudery? Hello, most people are not shaped like a long rectangle as these swim suits suggest. The website claims that the swim suits draw attention away from the body but if I saw someone walking down the beach in that getup I would stare in shock and horror.

  10. #10
    Don said on June 15, 2005 | Reply

    Respectfully Kate, your comment has a logical flaw. Under your reasoning if everyone walked around naked, a little itty bitty bikini would attract people's attention. The website is correct in that it draws attention away from the "body"...more specifically, if I may a little explicit, it prevents a drooling guy from staring at a girls boobs and butt. You mistake attention the suit might bring for simply being out of the ordinary with inappropriate attention directed at a girl or woman's body parts. As to the Bible, I don't know what you mean by "complete prudery" but, it certainly advocates a level of modesty far greater than that which one would find these days at any public beach. There is nothing wrong with a woman or girl who would choose to wear these suits.

  11. #11
    Jen said on June 16, 2005 | Reply

    While I condone modesty, these swimsuits are so unstylish! I don't think there's anything wrong with someone who would choose to wear them, but it would be nice to see something that looks more sporty. There are other options out there. Check out www.ohanaswimwear.com and www.swimmodest.com. It is true that these suits are not as modest as the ones above (they're tighter), but they are much more modest than anything available retail. Plus I would think that suits like those pictured above would be hard to swim in.

    I've actually purchased a short sleeve rash guard (surfing shirt) and board shorts from www.girls4sport.com. (You never actually see pictures of the shirts with the board shorts on the site--only with the teeny bottoms--but this is a fairly modest way to dress. The rashguards are a bit tight, but this makes swimming easier.

  12. #12
    Ellen said on June 28, 2005 | Reply

    I purchsed one of these bathing suits and wear it without shame. I have gotten both negative and positive comments about it. People have reacted by mocking me, "I always wanted to swim in my clothes." But on one occasion a woman approached me and said, "You are giving glory to God by wearing that!" People can see that I am a Christian by merely what I wear, for the inside is clean and it is reflected on the outside.

  13. #13
    Carri said on June 30, 2005 | Reply

    Our family wears the wholesome wear suits. Myself and my two daughters and we love them. We feel very comfortable in them and you can do sports in them and play and keep your modesty. My girls are 5 and 8. I have only recieved good comments from people, though opions of others is not what I look to to make my decisions.I make them from our convictions and from my husband. They really are nice suits I have had mine for three years and it is not worn yet..and we swim alot. The girls are fine too though today I am ordering a new one for our older daughter. Our boys wear surfing suits and they also have a pair of swim shorts and a swim shirt that goes with it...You can find those all over the internet and the suits both for girls and boys are great for sun protection! Save money on sunscreen! I am thankful for the wholesome wear company and their witness to keep modesty.

    Blessings,
    Mrs. Mark Chmielewski

  14. #14
    Scott said on July 3, 2005 | Reply

    I have a question. Since the purpose of the modest swimwear is to not draw attention to the body, why then is a "Slimming Swimmer" stlye needed? Why should it matter? Isn't "Gluttony" a sin too? If you are going to follow the Bible to the letter of the law, you cannot pick and choose which pieces fit your needs. If this is truly a swimsuit you enjoy and feel comfortable with, you should by all means wear it. However, to judge another as immoral because of their choice of swimsuits is also a sin. Especially if you know nothing of their Christian values.

  15. #15
    Sandra said on July 9, 2005 | Reply

    The poor girls will drown in those swimming costumes.

  16. #16
    Don said on July 11, 2005 | Reply

    They will not drown. The suits are made of materials and cut in such a manner that they do not impede one's ability to swim. If anything they will be more buoyant in the suits and less likely to drown.

  17. #17
    Michelle said on July 14, 2005 | Reply

    I was so excited when I came across these swimsuits. I am Holiness and have been looking for something modest to swim in. Since being saved 6 yrs. ago I have been swimming in my regular skirts and they get pretty heavy in water. Not wanting to give up swimming all together but hoping for something alittle more water friendly. This swimsuit is an answer to my prayers. As for how it looks. Well I'm not trying to impress anyone. I just want to have fun in the water but not show the world what the Lord gave me.

  18. #18
    Martha said on July 16, 2005 | Reply

    I would love to be able to buy something like this for myself and my dd. I am praying to God to provide the finances. I am sure of this is what He wants us to wear, He will provide the means! :-)

  19. #19
    Ann said on July 21, 2005 | Reply

    Praise the Lord for showing me this blessed website.
    I am the mother of 2 girl blessings and 2 boy blessings.
    It is so easy to find my boys surf shirts and long swim shorts but for my girls I have been having a hard time.
    My girls have been wearing one piece short sets over their regular suits and now I am so thankful to see that this company
    is offering this safe swim wear for christians who want to remain modest while swimming..
    Wearing a regular dress just weighs us all down so I cannot wait to order myself and my 2 daughters a new suit.
    In Christ,
    Jolene

  20. #20
    Jules said on July 29, 2005 | Reply

    I appreciate this company's attempt at modesty and applaud those who prefer to keep private things private. I can't say I would wear one of these suits, but I can recommend another company who makes modest swimwear that is also flattering. Check out Ohana Swimwear at www.ohanaswimwear.com. I bought one of their suits and have loved it. They believe in strong families with Christian values, and I have loved doing business with them.

  21. #21
    jolene said on August 5, 2005 | Reply

    For those of you who are interested in modesty, you may want to check out this website:
    www.modest-swimwear.net

  22. #22
    kate said on August 6, 2005 | Reply

    Why should we stop at covering the body. Couldn't a man lust after a beautiful face just as easily? I think you need to follow the Muslims' example and put all your beautiful wives and daughters in burkas.

  23. #23
    Don said on August 6, 2005 | Reply

    Yes, Kate, let's take everything to ridiculous extremes. Would you tell people who only eat cake and ice cream as a treat that they should never eat such things? Do you tell people who invest 15% of their income for retirement that every space penny should go towards retirement? Or, do you tell people who actually limit their time in front of the boob-tube that they should never watch TV? Probably not, so why do you get all snotty and mock people who simply want to dress conservatively and not show off all their goods with tiny pieces of sheer fabric pulled tightly across their body parts?

  24. #24
    Krystal said on August 7, 2005 | Reply

    I am 19 years old. I have always been fairly well-covered when I have gone swimming. I agree with Don and Whitney that these swimsiuts have "taken it too far". Shapeliness is different from nudity. I see nothing wrong with clothes that reveal an attractive figure, as long as they are not provacatively tight (ie: jeans that attract the eyes to bulging buttocks.). However, I will not allow anything from cleavage to buttocks show in public. Most of the time, I wear board shorts for added comfort in case of "wedgie"-itis. I think this is a good guideline to follow when searching for a swimsuit. I have never had any negative feedback from this, whether teasing or scolding.

  25. #25
    Bethanie Gordon said on August 8, 2005 | Reply

    I don't think there is anything wrong with wearing a 'full piece' swim suit. The suits on that site do look' dorky' and I am a mother of three and have no attractive figure anymore but I still wouldn't be caught dead in those suits, sorry.

    Kate has a point. A lustful mind needs little encouragement if the pervert lusting is determined to think dirty thoughts.This is why we have adulterous ministers viewing porn and priest molesting little boys.

    If one really wants to discourage this then do not allow your daughters to be seen until they are of marriage age. Better yet why not choose their future mate for them?

    Sure it is extreme to say this, but I have a 15 year old daughter, who is a good, decent girl who would die of embarrassment if I asked her to wear such an ugly thing. Furthermore if they don't impede swimming in the least why don't the female Olympic swimmers wear them and are they sinful for wearing the suits that they do?!

    Whatever happened to common sense and reason? Sheesh!

  26. #26
    Sheryl said on August 10, 2005 | Reply

    I think many of you are missing the point. We women cause men to sin (lust) when we wear revealing clothing. That includes shorts, jeans and even tight dresses. Ask your husband or brother what they TRULY notice. Jeans and shorts ephasize the crotch and butt areas. while tight dresses emphasize breasts etc. There is NOTHING wrong with keeping your body for your HUSBAND and yes that even includes covering your hair. Don't take my word for it, study Gods word. too many Christians have become worldly. Even men should be covered, not bare chested. christians need to walk the walk not just talk the talk. People should be able to look at us and see something different, inside and out! there is nothing wrong with courtship rather than casual dating either. those of us who have raised our daughters (and sons) to be pure until marriage dn't risk our children coming home to tell us they have aids, or are pregnant. My daughters have not died of embarrassment from being taught modesty. If your daughter was raised to dress immodestly by your example there is still time to change that. If you give a child $ to buy skimpy clothes you are condoning that type of "style". children are supposed to honor their parents, even if it means being told to cover up their bodies! I thought the Bible, not the Olymics set the standard for people?! why the Olympics? why not follow madonna? Our children are also not being raised to walk away from relationships when there is a problem. Caasual dating actually sets the scene for DIVORCE. Take a look at the values our society used to have, back when "bathing costumes" covered you from shoulder to thigh. Skin cancer, divorce and rape were almost unheard of. For those of you who attack these suits so vehmently think and pray about it. The Lord may be speaking to your conscience about your lack of modesty. You may not choose to wear them and that is unfortunate for you. However when you feel the need to attack those who choose to you are the one with the problem

  27. #27
    Jo said on August 12, 2005 | Reply

    These swimsuits are horrendous! who else would purchase such an abhorrent garment except a paranoid mother who wants to control her daughters with an iron fist?

  28. #28
    Bekah said on August 16, 2005 | Reply

    I truly appreciate these swim suits. I am a 28 year old who can make my own decisions as to what i wear to swim in. I have always felt uncomfortable in the most "modest" swimwear I could find in retail stores. I believe that the Bible teaches modesty. I view it from the stand point of God's holiness. . . I am commanded, by the Bible, to be holy like God and set apart unto Him. His example of holiness is reflected in my life by refusing to look or act like the world. It is my Biblical responsibility to keep my self modest so as to not be the cause of lustful thoughts. If despite my best efforts at modesty someone lusts after me that is not my responsibility. But it is foolish of me to neglect my own responsibility.

  29. #29
    Hillary Hipps said on August 19, 2005 | Reply

    Hi, I am 13 and I made one of these swim suits pictured for myself . A friend of ours saw the picture and made up a pattern for it. before I found these i alwase swam in a dark T-shirt and a pair of black jean shorts. I LOVE this swim suit .I feel very comfertable in it. All of my brothers and Father approve of it. Shure I get stared at some times but I amone of 10 kids so I have been stared at all my life:-) And I get stared at in dresses too. Please do not cause our christain (or nonchristian)brothers too sin by looking lustfully at you. What is too modest about this suit? better be safe than sorry. I have also never kissed a boy unless it was in my family or a baby. and I DONT plan too untill After I say "I do"
    Devotedly Christ's,
    Hillary Hipps

  30. #30
    Trish said on September 15, 2005 | Reply

    I am amazed reading all the comments about your swimsuits!! People will justify anything at the cost of doing what they want, rather than what is commanded of them by God. Just because Olympic swimmers wear what they do, does not make it okay! We have been so influenced by today's standards that God"s standard's seem old fashion and out of date. Would you want to come face to face with Christ dressed in a skimpy swim suit? Oh, I hope not. Thanks for what you are doing

  31. #31
    Liz said on October 1, 2005 | Reply

    I'm glad that there are other people out there who want to wear modest clothing. These are a little more extreme than my person taste, but only by a small amount. If they were two piece suits I might consider buying them. I personally feel uncomfortable stripping to my knees to use the toilet even in a women's bathroom. My ideal would be to find something like a long cap sleeved shirt and mid-thigh/knee length shorts that aren't skin tight in swim suit materials. I could be modest, much less sun burnt and I wouldn't have to wear an over sized t-shirt swimming.

  32. #32
    Luke said on October 11, 2005 | Reply

    While I can appreciate modesty, I don't appreciate the underlying sexism of these suits. Why is it that these modest suits are only made for women? Why are women expected to attire themselves more conservatively than men? Or conversely, why aren't men afforded the opportunity to dress this modestly? (I'd totally love one of those 1920's-style male singlet suits).

    Maybe it's because there's nothing 'old-fashioned' or 'moral' about these suits. Maybe they in fact represent a 'conservatism' that masks an underlying cultural violence to women - such as religious countries that mandate burquas for women. The type of societies that get glowing praise such as "Divorces were unheard of!" by conveniently ignoring the fact that they were "unheard of" because women were so marginalized in such a society that they couldn't seek a divorce when abused, or were too scared to because of the difficulty a single woman would have in such a wretched society.

    The question here isn't whether or not modesty is good - it is much more obviously why does the modesty standard only seem to cut one way? This company is patently sexist.

    (But really, I'm just venting my frustration that nobody provides swimwear for the modest MALE...)

  33. #33
    Angela said on October 15, 2005 | Reply

    Luke, there is some modest male swimwear at swimmodest.com. Generally, modest men will swim in a t-shirt, this is not always comfortable, they offer a shirt made of a material that is much more comfortable to swim in. I highly reccomend for every Chritian the book: Modesty, the Public Undressing of America. It really opened my eyes. It did not come at you with "iron - fist" law but practical common sense and practicality. Almost all swimwear today is as revealing or more revelaing than underwear. I know I would not walk down the street or send my daughters down the street in their undies! Why is it suddenly okay at the beach or pool? Unfortunately, there are some perverts in the world and I prefer not ot go to the beach feeling "devoured by the eyes and minds of men" And I certainly have no intention of sending my girls into that kind of meat market "selling their wares" Why is it a woman can walk down the beach topless with a string to cover her rear and barely more than that in the front and that is perfectly acceptable to men and a lot of women, but a girl who is conscientous about how she presents herself and wants to enjoy life and not worship her body or ecourage others to will get ridiculed and looked down upon. She should be honored as she has chosen rightly? Why should a mother who cares about her daughters purity and how she is looked upon and treated in public be mocked as some prude with an iron fist while other mothers send their girls out revealing all and bringing them back home pregnant or worse and there is no shame in that?? Sorry but the ways of this world continue to make less and less sense to me!

  34. #34
    Jean said on November 28, 2005 | Reply

    I just want to let you know that I have NEVER had skin cancer, been divorced, or been raped by wearing a 'normal' swimming suit. AND since when do men not have self-control? Yes, women shouldn't use their bodies for attraction, but it's not just the women's problem. If we can put trust in men to lead our country, make our laws, and protect our freedoms, do they not have the capacity to control their thoughts and actions? I'm not saying that women shouldn't dress modestly. I choose to dress modestly, but I think a little bit of the pressure should be taken off the women of our society. We should all be accountable for our own actions.

  35. #35
    Mary said on November 28, 2005 | Reply

    YAYYYYYUHHHHHHHHHHHH. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT JEAN. YOU GO GIRL. WOMAN POWER. LET'S TAKE OVER THE COUNTRY. YOU AND ME GIRL. REVOLUTION, VICTORY AND FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  36. #36
    Ashley said on November 29, 2005 | Reply

    I agree with Jean!! Women have to right to choose their swimming suits and i don't care if you think i am a bad person of wearing a normal swimming i wear a one piece, what's wrong with it? i would like to hear some remarks....ashley

  37. #37
    Cathryn said on November 30, 2005 | Reply

    I just wanted to add my voice of support for anyone, male or female, who desires to seek modesty when choosing what to wear anywhere. Please let's all be reflective and listen to our own conscience which will let us know if we ourselves could indeed be doing better.

  38. #38
    Meredith said on December 5, 2005 | Reply

    I would only ask that my teenage daughter swim in what she feels comfortable. If this is the ONLY (and I mean ONLY) thing she felt comfortable in, then I would allow it.
    Because of the way I've raised my child, I have a feeling that she will not feel comfortable in an itsy bitsy teeny weeny bikini (she's only 8 now). I never did. I preferred the men's board shorts and t-shirt no matter how svelte my figure was. However, I would NEVER force my child to dress like this.
    It looks cumbersome and awkward at best.

    I think the important thing is that your child be comfortable with who she is and what she was given. String bikins are not appropriate for teens, anyway. There is a comfortable compromise somewhere.

  39. #39
    Elizabeth said on December 9, 2005 | Reply

    I am glad that (almost) everyone here tries their best to be modest. But, reading all of these comments I've noticed nobody has mentioned additude. I am 14 and my mother allows me to wear 2 pieces as long as they are boy-cut shorts and the tank tops. But I think that if I went around the beach obviously seeking attention in even a modest swim suit then boys would most diffinently give it to me. Additude has a lot to do with modesty, and if girls are modest in their acts then you are modest in your faith. To be honest, I think these suits are very extreme. And yes, I really don't like to go to the beach a lot anymore because all you seen is sluts! But just being modest in your additude towards others and not showing off helps so much.
    God Bless

  40. #40
    Crystal said on December 23, 2005 | Reply

    I am 16 year old Christian and have been looking for a modest swimsuit this whole year. I can say with almost full assurance, YOU WON'T FIND ONE IN A STORE! All those other girls can wear what they want, but I intend to get one of these suits. They are the nicest modest ones I've seen! Love 'em...

  41. #41
    Sally said on December 25, 2005 | Reply

    Whoa whoa whoa! I have a comment on something Sheryl said...."We women cause men to sin (lust) when we wear revealing clothing."
    Excuse me?? Since when have men not been able to exercize self control? Oh it is my fault i was raped, my shirt was too tight. It couldnt be his fault, I caused him to lust for me and attack me. That is insanity. I am not man bashing by any means. But what century are some of you in??

  42. #42
    Rebecca said on January 3, 2006 | Reply

    I would like to ask those who have posted complaints over the suits....Why are you so upset?! Why is there so much anger, resentment and criticism being spewed out to those who choose to live a life committed whole heartedly towards God?

    Granted...it may not be the same walk you yourself may be on, but that's not the point is it? That's your personal walk...and this is theirs. [Sally: to address your point directly.In my understanding of religion...when one receives a "revelation" that is a burden in their heart to change a certain lifestyle choice....they may become less like the world in doing so (ie...covering her head, wearing dresses or deciding simply to refrain from piercing any body part), but the Bible does say "we are not of this world"...and yet...why do we try so hard to blend into it?]

    I have admiration and love for those i see who go the extra mile and stand up and sometimes stand out for their Lord. I don't agree with every convinction someone may have been revealed to, but thats not my revelation...it is THEIR OWN. I do believe in the ones i've been shown myself...and I would be ashamed if i ever mocked or laughed at a person devoting their life so graciously to the God I love because their revelations about modesty are not hurting anyone....their choice to not show you their breasts when they go swimming is not a violent act, but on the contrary one made out of love.....its a compliment they choose to live so dedicately in his service...after all he was brutally murdered & humiliated for our sins...wearing a bathing suit that doesn't show off your breasts and thighs leaving little to the imagination isn't much to give him in return as a "Thank You"

    Isn't loving the "Church" of Christ what we all are supposed to agree upon? *We* are the Church. It's time to love.

  43. #43
    Staci said on January 9, 2006 | Reply

    Oh for goodness sakes, what's the big deal here? I'm a very conservaticve Christian and I'm told all the time that I am supposed to be "tolerant" and accept people who dress immodestly everywhere I go. I've seen women (and men) on the beach with almost NOTHING on ( like a G-string and a tiny bikini top that barely covers anything!) and I'm not supposed to be judgemental about that. People say, "If you don't like it, don't look at it! Just turn your head!" Yet, some of you are being quite judgemental about this modest swimwear. I think it's beautiful and quite functional for people who want to enjoy the water yet don't feel comfortable showing their bodies excessively. Follow the same advice mentioned above - TURN YOUR HEAD and DON'T LOOK if you don't like it!

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    Julie said on January 10, 2006 | Reply

    Reading some of your comments leaves me with such a creepy feeling in my stomach. I don't have any clever comments or retorts to make. Truly disturbing, the way a lot of you think. (" All of my brothers and Father approve of it." and "Please do not cause our christain (or nonchristian)brothers too sin by looking lustfully at you."). Actually, I feel more sad than creeped-out.

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    Janet said on January 10, 2006 | Reply

    My 9 year old daughter and I both have these suits, and we love them. We have had nothing but positive comments on the suits. They are very easy to swim in, water tube in, and jet ski in.
    We don't have the need to cover up when we get out of the water either.]
    Before I found these suits, I went into a store that had nothing but swimsuits, hundreds of them. There was not a single suit that didn't show either cleavage or ride the rear. The skirted ones were low in front and the ones that came up to the neck showed the bottom.
    I also have a friend who has 4 daughters 9-13 who love these suits.

  46. #46
    Hillary Hipps 14 said on January 11, 2006 | Reply

    I posted a little while ago about these suits and I will have to say, If you are COMPLETELY sold out for God and have taken up your cross and followed Him, He will tell you what to wear and when. I have one of these suits and I like it. My only advise is "Love the Lord your God with ALL your heart ALL your soul ALL your mind and ALL your strength."

  47. #47
    Carrie said on January 12, 2006 | Reply

    I come from a European background and have always felt comfortable with nudity as the original human condition, both the way God made us and the way we are born. It's human beings who assign shame to the human body. I would be happy to meet Jesus stark naked, and I wouldn't be surprised if that's the way he meets me. There is nothing wrong or shameful about the body God gave you, and no reason to cover it.

  48. #48
    Don said on January 12, 2006 | Reply

    Carrie,

    I'm all for meeting God naked, as you argued, there is no reason to be ashamed of the human body. However, these are not Jesus-meeting swimsuits.

    Given the reality that Hollywood and Madison Avenue cram sex-sex-sex down our throats 24-hours a day and that it's not always safe for a woman just to go jogging through a park, one should easily be able to see why some women and young girls might not want to be on the receiving end of media-inspired-liberalism-run-amuck glares.

    Put another way, some women would rather endure, "Hey babe nice swim dress...ha, ha." Rather than, "Hey babe nice hooters." Just do an internet search for "beach voyeurism" and see if you come up with any disturbing results.

    In a perfect world (Eden), we could all go naked with no problem. However, a little apple eating put an end to that fantasy. These swimsuits may be a little more than I'd expect from my wife or daughter, but I'll vigorously defend any female's choice to wear them without ridicule. I'd much rather have my daughter err on the side of caution and wear one of these in public than err on the side of trying to cover herself with just a few lengths of string.

  49. #49
    Hillary Hipps 14 said on January 14, 2006 | Reply

    Amen Sir.

  50. #50
    L. Alahem said on January 21, 2006 | Reply

    I found this site on a google search for modest swimwear. You see, I am a Muslim American woman that is joining a gym. Since converting, and adopting a modest dress style, including the headscarf, I stopped swimming, because I could not find a suit that was not revealing.
    I am smiling at many of the comments by the sisters. You speak of guarding your modesty and saving your beauty for your husbands, and teaching your girls to do the same, and teaching your boys to look for believing girls. I could be reading posts from many muslim sites. We are all in the same boat, it seems, trying to keep to God's commandments in a world gone to sin and decadence. I want to thank you all so much for reminding me of our shared burdens/blessings. And yes, I am buying one of those lovely suits, and looking forward to being able to take part in summer, and still keep my principles.

    L. Alahem

  51. #51
    mike johnson said on January 24, 2006 | Reply

    simply put a womans body should not and i mean should not be exposed to a man at all when she is near them dress in a extremmaly modest one-piece bathing suit, its much different for a man it dont matter if he walks around naked in front of the women just as long she does not mind of coarse.

  52. #52
    Carrie said on February 9, 2006 | Reply

    I am a mother of 5 daughters and would love to purchase these swimsuits for myself and my girls. I love the water but have always felt uneasy in regular swimsuits. Having to find clothing to cover up the swimsuit seemed rediculous and uncomfortable. Having a suit that is modest and made out of the right material to not be so cumbersome is a God send. I have always held to the standard that we would certainly not go out or let our daughters out in public in their underwear, and yet we make that underwear out of a different material and call it a swimsuit and then people are ok with it...HELLO. anyone see a problem here???

    I am also ashamed at the sight of some women at the pool. How selfish you are being. Yes men have the ability to show self control. God gave them desires that are aroused by sight of a beautiful woman...it was so they would delight in the sight of their wife. That they could be naked and not ashamed... in the context of marriage!!! Some woman can only think of what they want to do and just put the responsibility on the man to deny his God given desires because they can't show a little self control by covering themselves up a little. Think of all the young boys growing up being bombarded with half naked women because they have the "right" to dress how they want. We cannot answer for the men who lack self control nor does God hold us accountable for them. He only holds us accountable for our own actions and motives. Just check your motives. I would be concerned if your justifications always start with "I want", "I think" , "I feel", instead of "God wants", "God thinks", etc.

    We have to be in constant prayer on behalf of our children that the influences of the world would not corrupt them. Satan has a stronghold in the area of modest and immodest dressing. Just seeing how passionate everyone is that responds to this is a good indication of how important it is to both sides.

    God help us all to stand on the right side and finish the race set before us.

  53. #53
    Becky said on February 24, 2006 | Reply

    For those of you who are mocking these nice modest swimsuits, let's get back to the Bible. For those ladies who say that men have a responsibility to control themselves, where is our responsibility as women and wives? Romans 14:21 says "It is good neither to eat flesh nor to drink wine, nor anything whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended or is made weak." 1Corinthians says"But take heed lest by any means this liberty of your's become a stumblingblock to them that are weak." Men are supposed to control themselves, yes. But there are men that are weaker. Also, does a man's responsibility to control himself give us permission to dress in a way that would cause men to stumble? As to these styles being prude and that the Bible does not condone prudeishness--show me the verses that prove it. Titus 2:5 tells us as women "to be discreet, chaste...... "Do you know how the dictionary defines chaste? It defines chaste as 1. virtuous 2. Pure in character or conduct; not indecent The typical swimsuits are indecent because too many of woman's curves and body parts are exposed! In a suit that is modest on the bottom, the top shows too much cleavage. In a suit that is modest on top, too much is revealed in the bottom. So, for those of us who hold higher standards, the swimsuits at this website are a blessing and a true gift from God. If you wish to wear swimsuits that are not as modest as these, that's fine. I am not judging you for your decision in that. But I do wish that those of you who are complaining about these swimsuits would stop. Don't call those of us who choose to buy these for our daughters iron fisted and controlling. We hold higher standards. My daughter loves these swimsuits. She is almost 13 years old. She loves them because they are "ladylike" She likes dressing like a lady even at the beach. She is savign herself for marriage. She has made a personal commitment that no one is going to see her cleavage or bottom before she marries and then after that she doesn't want any man but her husband seeing those parts of her. So, for those reasons, she loves these swimsuits! Now a couple of questions for you to ponder--What is wrong with holding higher standards? What is wrong with loving the Lord so much that we want to go the extra mile in how we dress?? As I asked earlier, why call us iron fisted and controlling? and why bash these swimsuits? We are maikng these choices because we love the Lord and we wish to honour the Lord by living this way. Shouldn't that be a reason to rejoice instead of bashing ones that have higher standards? I am not saying that there is anything wrong with you if you do not hold our higher standards. You are not any less a Christian to have lower standards. But don’t bash those of us who have the higher standards. We love the Lord as much as you do. You may choose to show your love for the Lord differently. This is the one of the ways that we choose to show our love for the Lord.

  54. #54
    Catie said on February 27, 2006 | Reply

    I have NOTHING against these swimsuits, I am 15, home schooled and modest. I don't wear anything that my parents don't approve of. But I would NOT wear this! I would be ashamed! I don't want to look like my mom, I want to look pretty. NOT sexy! I just want to have fun, and have a cute swimsuit. I think it's SO annoying that guys have lust filled hearts! Shame on you guys, otherwise I could wear a cute swimsuit of my choice, and I wouldn't have to worry about what shorts I wear and have to feel icky when a man walks by (I don't like the thought of a man looking at me like that).

    I am saving my self for my husband.. I've been with my bf for a year and I haven't kissed him (and never will). But I don't feel like it's wrong that people date and not court. I mean courting isn't the BEST nor is dating! It's really a personal choice. So I think it's wrong that people are all like "Courting is the BEST, dating is horrible!! SIN SIN SIN!!!". I love the Lord, and if he tells me that I shouldn't date then I won't!

    I've even read books on dating and courting. Lots of people date, get married and live happily ever after. I don't believe in divorce unless the man or the woman is hurting the other over and over never stopping.

  55. #55
    Catherine said on March 3, 2006 | Reply

    I see nothing wrong with these swimsuits. I am also 15, and also homeschooled. The Lord is the most important thing in my life, and He has convicted me to be modest in my dress and behavior, and to save myself for my future husband. Obviously, He has convicted anyone else who buys these swimsuits of the same thing. If God convicted someone to do or not to do something, who is anyone else to condemn them for obeying Him?

  56. #56
    Lillian said on March 4, 2006 | Reply

    Wow, - I am utterly amazed at the number of comments posted on these swimsuits, - both negative and positive. I have been convicted for many years that as a Christian I should not "uncover my nakedness", "put on that wich pertaineth to a man" or "put a stumbling block in the path of anyone". A man can walk in to any store and buy a modest outfit, a woman cannot walk into ANY store (in an average city in Europe at least) and by ANY modest outfit, infact last time I went to the bussiest shopping street in London looking for a simple t. shirt I couldn't find even ONE that was modest - I am serious - everything was either too see-through, too low cut up top or too short at the base, too tight or had no sleeve. I thank God that even if I do have to cyber-surf across the ocean I can get hold of a modest swim-suit. I have had one of these suits for a couple of years and I have received a couple of puzzled looks (I tend to go only to quiet beaches as females need to guard against immodest temptations caused by the sights around them too...) but all of my Christian friends (male and female) have only had positive things to say. Far from being dangerous or cumbersom these suits are less weighty or restrictive than any other t.shirt/short/skirt combination that you can possibly dream up, they don't fill with air or float up (problems with other designs I've tried to make myself). Highly recommended I am 29 and I have been making my own choices about what I wear for many years and when I was desperately looking for a swimsuit a couple of years ago I thought these looked very stylish and not unlike a sun-protection suit/surf suit that many "fashionable" people seem to like. One last comment, I feel it is important for men to guard their modesty and cover up too, there is nothing "sexist" about following the plain word of scripture.

  57. #57
    pek1 said on March 4, 2006 | Reply

    You have got to be kidding?? These are the funniest swimsuits I have ever seen!! My gawd, a person could drown wearing those goofy things...I'd rather have my daughters go swimming in the suit they were born in, as I do the same. My gawd, what kind of kooks promote shame? The Bible doesn't do that, just ferckamental blabtists and their body shamers. Get a life and get naked already!! Yee haw!!!!!!!!! Can't wait until summer so I can get naked again and go skinnydipping...if you've never done it, you're missing out.

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    Jennifer said on March 5, 2006 | Reply

    wow..i have neve seen a site quite like this..but i like it..i am a heavy set girl and i am all the time looking for MODEST swim suits...most of the time i wae coulotts and a t-shirt...i have great convictions when it comes to what i wear my father is a Baptist preacher..and i think that it is my duity not only as a christian but also as a pastors daughter so not only act like a christian but also look like one!!....i know that you guys are probably gettin alot of rude and mean comments..but hand in there..you have a sister in Chirst in WEST VIRGINIA praying for you

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    Hillary said on March 10, 2006 | Reply

    Thank you Jennifer, I realy apprecaite your post. I would like to get in touch with you what is your snail mail address? If you click on my name on the bottom you can send me a email. Thank you again God bless you sister. Fight the good fight, carry on , God WILL reward you in the end!!

  60. #60
    Hillary said on March 10, 2006 | Reply

    Sorry Jennifer, I 'll try this!! I never was good at computers!

  61. #61
    Don said on March 11, 2006 | Reply

    Hilary, you did nothing wrong. The program purposely does not display the email addresses people provide so that spammers cannot harvest them and use it them for sending spam. However, your work-around solution of putting it in as your website address will work to show Jennifer what your address is.

  62. #62
    Lisa said on March 13, 2006 | Reply

    There are enough comment's here that you'd think it would all have been said already! However, I just wanted to comment from somewhere in the middle. I used to believe more liberally, then married a more conservative man from a conservative family. They all wear full length dresses by day and coulots and tee shirts over swim suits to swim. I grew up wearing jeans and tank tops, shorts, shorter skirts, and "normal" bathing suits. Nothing provocative or revealing, but definitely not what they would approve of! In my 7 years of marriage in this family I have come to understand that as a society we HAVE gone down the drain. We care far too much about catching the opposite sex's eye and looking sexy and not enough about what God thinks. We do not have the fear of the Lord (And I mean a healthy fear of the Lord, not a, "I am scared of God hitting me with a lighening bolt for wearing a swim suit, fear!) I needed to do a reality check on myself and reevaluate my wardrobe and my morals. I did this very carefully. I watched my new sister in laws and mother in law and what they wore. I ended up somewhere in the middle, I wear jeans and pants still- but not tight; shirts, but no tank tops, nothing tight, nor low cut. I stay fashionable, but never reveal much skin. My husband likes the way I dress. He appreciates the changes I have made. He didn't tell me to make them. I made them of my own accord. My body is my husbands. Why dress for anyone else to see it?
    Now for the flip side, I do think you can go too far with this. Modesty can become so much the focus of your Christian walk (probably because it is in such stark contrast to the world around you that you have to defend it so often) that it takes front stage when it should be in the background. Shouldn't it? I have noticed, not with my in laws, but with some of their friends who believe the same way, that their belief in modesty in this strict manner, has taken over their lives and becomes their first and foremost fight which they debate with people. I am not saying everyone does this, obviously. Some people have found a balance and realize that their Christian walk is defined by Christ and His work in their lives, not their convictions on modesty.
    I guess my points are, if you disagree with these suits, fine. Your decision, but don't be so quick to judge those who choose to wear it. They will not drown (trust me, I have seen my sister in law swim in far more material that this!) And if they believe it to be sin to wear a what you call "normal" bathing suit (what is normal anyhow?) then it is sin for them! Would you rather they sin to fit in with you?
    And for those of you that do agree with the suit, be careful with your comments. Men are weaker visually it is true, but they are still resposible for their lust. Women are responsible for modesty I believe, but you get into a sticky situation when you start making comments about it causing rape, lust, adultry, etc. Men are still responsible for their actions. In addition to that, as I said earlier be sure that you do not make this the focus of your life or your girls lives. Make it something that somes second to almost everything else in their Christian walk. I know it will be hard since when they first meet people that is the first thing that gets noticed is their attire, but try not to let modesty be the focus of their Christian walk! They should not be defined by what they wear but by Christ in them.
    Lisa

  63. #63
    Katia said on March 14, 2006 | Reply

    Why not? I'd wear it. Frankly, it's really not that bad. I'm pretty liberal, but not all of us have the best bodies in the world that we don't wish to show off, and if it's either wear something more covering or not go to the beach or swimming at all (because I refuse to wear a tiny little swimsuit with my [butt] hanging out), guess which I'd pick? Personally I don't think these are so bad--and they're preferable to wearing shorts and a t-shirt or shorts and a tank-top to swim in, which just make you look like you forgot to bring your swimsuit.

  64. #64
    Gabby said on March 18, 2006 | Reply

    We have to recognize that we've all come from different backrounds and different situations. While some may feel a calling to have high standards of modesty, others may not have standards as high and still be completely on good terms with the Lord. Whatever happens, He won't love you any less if you dress less modest than someone else. Did that make any sense?

  65. #65
    jenny said on March 21, 2006 | Reply

    i wear a one piece swimsuit wheni go swimming usually worn witha large oversized tee. is this more modest than some of the "wet suit " style swimsuits or is it even modest. Am a new christain and wish to be modest so any help would be appreciated

  66. #66
    Mrs. Thomas Fraser said on March 21, 2006 | Reply

    Folks, those of us who are Christians should remember that those who are lost can only be expected to behave like those who are lost.

    1 CO 2:14 But the NATURAL MAN receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

    Before I realized my condition and accepted the gift of life offered by Jesus, I was most definitely not concerned with modesty or anything else pertaining to the Lord. I didn't teach my daughters properly, and now they are paying the consequences for my negligence. I honestly thought those Christians were just trying to find something to complain about, since they weren't allowed to have any fun themselves.

    Now I know better, and I still have so much to learn. I have a lot of fun, and I don't wear pants, bikinis, shorts, tight or low cut blouses, etc. I just don't think it is anyone's business if I am slim or fat, sexy or not. Is it my fault that men lust after women? No, but that is what they do. My job is to not encourage lust. We can say all day long that men should be able to control themselves. Through Christ they can, but do recovering alcoholics work in bars? Does your neighborhood bank leave the safe unlocked and unattended?

    RO 14:13 Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a STUMBLINGBLOCK or an occasion to fall in his brother's way.

    Are the so-called "normal" swimsuits immoral? Since the Bible says...1TI 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in MODEST apparel...I would say the answer is yes, they are immoral. I am not judging anything by my own standards, but by the standards the Lord set for us, which are the only standards that matter.

    As for those that say they are Christians but don't think there is anything wrong with showing your shape to everyone, perhaps you should actually read and study God's Word, pray, and then see how you feel about it. Don't take my word for it.

    We are to protect our eyes from evil things, and we are to remain separate.

    2 CO 6:17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord…

    GE 9:23 And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father's nakedness.

    PS 101:3 I will set no wicked thing before mine EYES: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.

  67. #67
    Rose said on March 25, 2006 | Reply

    I used to wear longer dresses all the time as well as headcoverings all the time except in bed at night. I no longer follow these dress guidelines but these swimsuits look like they will meet my needs perfectly.

    I'm looking at the styles from a pragmatic point of view rather than straight modesty. I used to weigh nearly three hundred pounds. I neglected my body for many years and even though I've lost over a hundred pounds so far (and mostly fit into a regular ladies' large suit) I still have horrible sagginess and bulges down to right above my knees. Even when I make it to a single-digit size I will be paying the price for my stupidity/gluttony forever (unless I can find some way to have cosmetic surgery to get rid of all the "leftovers.") In addition, even at a smaller size I always have a very large bust (G or H cup) and suits "off the rack" offer virtually no support. I could wear a skirted one-piece but I always run the risk of falling out on the top. Maybe if I have a reduction I'll be able to wear a regular skirted suit, but until then I don't want to show the world that my boobs go down to my waist. Any of the "Wholesom Wear" suits would allow me to wear a bra, and the jumper would cover any bra line. Win-win for me.

    I love to swim and I'm an excellent swimmer - in fact, I want to learn to surf! - and I think it would be better for toning my body than just walking and hiking. But I cannot bring myself to wear an off-the-rack suit - even with a skirt - in public. I plan to order one of the "slimming suits" next week before the half-price sale goes away. I want all the sags and bulges covered and I want decent bust support. These suits would cover both the bases.

    I don't think I need to show the world all my bumps and bulges. I don't like to see it on other women, so it follows that other people wouldn't want to see it on me.

  68. #68
    Jane said on March 26, 2006 | Reply

    let me start off by saying yes sometimes suits go a little too far(very slutty) but these suits go way to far in the other way i fell so sorry for the girls that are forced to wear these suit or the girls that have to get approvile by there father thats horrible
    dating is better then courting and its ok to kiss before your married come on!!

  69. #69
    Amanda King said on March 27, 2006 | Reply

    I enjoy modesty and believe in covering myself up. I am only 16 years old, but when I have children they will be modest. I have guy friends who dare not to go to public pools for fear of embarrassment of the silly girls wearing... uh nothing! I say shame on the Moms who allow thier children to reveal almost all of the sacred parts of their body!

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    Meagan said on March 28, 2006 | Reply

    I am a 17 year old girl and i love these simsuits, but unfortunately, i can not purchace one b/c my family doesn't support my desire to present my self modestly. thankfully, they allowed me to get rid of all of my old pants and short skirts and replace them with longer, modest ones. i don't understand why people have such a big problem with young women wanting to live modestly.

  71. #71
    Donna said on March 28, 2006 | Reply

    I'm always amazed at the controversy over what others do or don't do. The suits are a little much for me. I have raised my daughter to dress modestly. She has never been allowed to wear a 2-piece suit, and now, as an adult, she chooses to continue to dress modestly at all times. I don't think she would choose to wear this suit, but she wears a modest one-piece, usually with long board shorts. That being said, if I saw someone with this suit on, I would look and pass on by. It is a personal choice--we are always told to tolerate others and their choices; why can't we be accepting when someone chooses to be modest? This is such a non-issue. As a Christian, I have more important things to concern myself with than swimsuits. I understand that we have different convictions--the Bible does say to dress modestly. I think that excludes thongs or string bikinis, but it does not necessarily mean to wear this extreme swimsuit. But who am I to judge those who do? The discussion of modesty goes on to include to wear pants or not, shorts or not, etc. Let's agree to disagree and put more attention on loving others to Christ.

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    Renee said on April 2, 2006 | Reply

    I think we as Americans have gotten used to seeing naked, exposed bodies. So our vision is skewed and we look at this as weird. I agree with a writer above who said that we tend to make fun of modesty or people who don't wish to expose themselves for religious reasons, but we, at the same time call our selves tolerant of other people's views. We only seem to be tolerant if immorality is involved. Keeping yourself, chaste and moral is somehow weird? I was glad to see these suits. There are some more 'Middle of the road" suits at swimmodest.com. Chest is not exposed and the suit does not expose the thighs and buttocks and comes above the knee. They look very comfortable.

  73. #73
    Tara said on April 3, 2006 | Reply

    I grew up in a non-Christian home and was not taught to be modest or pure. As a result, I have many regrets from my past. How I rejoice that Jesus washes our sins away and gives us a new start! After I became a Christian I started dressing modestly and covering my head. Modest dress protects me from pride and vanity. We can look lovely, feminine, and modest at the same time. Let's strive for that and ease the load of our Christian brothers.

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    Eileen said on April 4, 2006 | Reply

    I take serious issue with the comments posted above. One message suggests that AIDS, divorce and rape were "unheard" of back when people wore such bathing suits in the 19th century. Such an ignorant statement is troubling. Rape was commonplace throught history, women just lacked the legal backing to punish the offenders. Such theories that women "ask" to be raped by their dress or behavior is antiquated and abhorent. AIDS is indeed a recent development, but sexually transmitted diseases were quite commonplace. At the height of the Victorian era, when such modest bathingsuits were the norm, Syphilis and Gonorrhea were a large problem, not only for prostitutes but also for their clientele: "Christian" men who brought the diseases into their marriages. And while divorce was prohibited by law until rather recently, that does not mean that all that existed before was happy marriages. In fact, the opposite is likely true, as women were trapped in abusive marriages. Does the Bible condone a man beating his wife? Should we not permit women to escape an abusive marriage? At a time when women have so many advantages in society and education I find it troubling that someone would use religion as an excuse to reinforce partiarchial norms that relegate women to nothing more than servants in a world run by men, constantly worried about "causing men to sin." I do not believe that this is what God had in mind when he created women from the rib of Adam, a clear metaphor for women and men to walk side by side.

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    Beth said on April 4, 2006 | Reply

    We too have just ordered the Wholesome Wear swimsuits. But what I like about them is that you don't have to wear them, for just swimming. But you can wear them to do just about anything. I think that's cool=)

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    CT said on April 6, 2006 | Reply

    [EDIT: CT MADE FOUR SEPARATE CONSECUTIVE COMMENTS WHICH I'VE CONSOLIDATED INTO ONE COMMENT.]

    the fact of the matter is that, if you are a women of God ... you will find a way to not expose your body! If it means wearing "funny" swimsuits like that shown above ... you will do it! and if it means, that you dont go and swim in public ... you will do it! is it really such a big price to pay for someone who died for your sins? or do you think if God were to come at just the time you are lusting away in your bikini, that He is gonna have mercy for you? Do you really want to stand in front of God in your bikini? i would shudder if i were you! Or are you one of those who thinks ... ah, God is a merciful God and will forgive? Do you really want to take the chance?

    Yes, He is merciful, but He is also a God who will send to hell! Look at muslim women, their direction of praise may be questionable, but at least they still dress with dignity. .. and me as a all-worshipping Christian male, honnours student at university (and not theology), would rather be associated with a properly dressed muslim women that an undressed "Christian" women.

    [COMMENT 2 FOLLOWS:]

    and i thank all women out of the bottom of my heart who resist this world and still dress with dignity! God will notice and you will be rewarded one day!

    [COMMENT 3 FOLLOWS:]

    and sorry i was just goin through this list, there was a person, i do not mention names, on the 26th of march, who proclaims that "Common, get real!" ... and yes do what the rest of the world does.... with specific reference to a specific deed!

    Miss, i challenge you to stand in front of the Almighty God and utter the same arrogant words! Why does there always have to be a sexual component before marriage? why cant a woman and a man, not just be best of friends and decide to commit to marriage in honour of God? and then once in marriage, there can be decided what role the sexual component will play?

    I like a lot of girls and i'd even be so arrogant to say that some of them like me back, but out of respect for my Heavenly Father who has given me all i have, i will refrain from any sexual contact, (until i meet the one who is meant for me ... and then only in marriage) because i love Him so much, that i do not want to hurt Him in any way ... even if this means that some people say that i'm stupid and i miss out on all the fun. If serving my God in this way is stupid, i sure dont ever want to become smart!

    [COMMENT 4 FOLLOWS:]

    and just reading up on some previous comments, i cant say i am really astounded, but just dissapointed ... as usual! Being a honours university student (and its not in language, so excuse the spelling) living on campus, i have unfortunately become use to the ways of the secular world and it saddens to say that little shocks me!

    Let me put it this way ... U believe in God and Jesus Christ right? Well what does believing in Them mean? That you just believe they live ... or what? NO! Saying you believe, it means that you believe in His word and His WHOLE(extended sound) word. What is His word? The Bible! ... and what does the Bible say .... let me take you to a verse that i so often read when the women of this world dissapoints me ... 1 Timothy chapter 2 verse 9 to 15 .... which says that it is the task of the woman to dress with modesty and sobriety (and i hope this is correctly translated, cause i speak and read another mother language) and that she should not have all kinds of ways dressing up her hair and should not worry about jewelry and make-up! This continues, but due to limited time and space i will stop.

    So miss in one of the top readings, you are absolutely free to go and nude away at the beach, but if i were you, i would be so scared of what God was going to do to me, i'd fill the sea with a distinct yellow colour of some of your bodily fluid! Do you think Adam and Eve was scared of God for the joke of it, when their eyes opened and they realised they were naked? .... Yes ... they wisened up and made a plan and got some covering ... all be it a bit agricultural methods, but i mean give them a break, its not like they had a crash course on sewing or something.

    and i am not oppressing women! I as a man take particular care in that i do not expose myself! Men and women are indeed equal ... God just gave us different roles and we should stick to what He says, cause He knows best

  77. #77
    Chris said on April 10, 2006 | Reply

    I was very happy and relieved to find these swimsuits. I always loved swimming, then when I became a teenager I didn't want to swim anymore. I felt so exposed in my swimsuit - even the most modest 1 piece suits I could find. I was uncomfortable with my body being so exposed for everyone to see and scrutinize. I wasn't a Christian then, and still felt this way!
    Here is an advantage of the internet - anyone in the country can find an alternative to what is offered at stores. How wonderful to be given a choice! God is so good!
    By the way, my husband doesn't like wearing just swimming trunks, either. He says he feels uncomfortable exposing his body like that in mixed company. And always has (go figure!) So he's going to look for a 2-piece surfer type suit. What's good for the goose is good for the gander!
    I wonder how many young people out there would admit if they were willing to be honest that, they, too, are uncomfortable exposing themselves in swimsuit styles of today? I'll bet there are a lot more than we realize! It's a shame we don't foster modesty in our children and young people.

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    WWWMOM said on April 14, 2006 | Reply

    All my girls wear these suites and are the envy of all of there femal peers. I guess its all in how people veiw things. My girls love them!

  79. #79
    Robyn said on April 14, 2006 | Reply

    I'm a Christian woman, have a nice figure, and am considered 'good looking' by the world's standards. I own a bikini for sunning in the privacy of my backyard (the husband likes the tan-lines as much as I do ;o)

    However, I'm not comfortable wearing regular swimwear in public. Usually I wear a modest onepiece and a pair of shorts to the beach, but I don't like looking like I forgot to bring anything to swim in. And I really don't like just sitting on the sidelines and watching.

    While the suits above work for some folks - they're not what I'm looking for.

    I wish someone would come up with a cute yet modest swimsuit - something i'd equate to "a little black dress" only made of lycra. It'd be great if it had a bike short type legging for under. The closest I've found is http://www.modest-swimwear.net. I'm probibly going to buy their pattern and tweek it a little.

    As far as guys go - I think if we women ran around in nothing and only covered up our ears - the guys would be obsessed with ears. (DISCLAIMER: I'm not advocating this behavior-just making a point)

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    Chana said on April 18, 2006 | Reply

    And now from a Torah-Observant Jew: I need to also cover my elbows and knees!! (It looks like maybe knees can be covered)

    As for the negative comments: I wouldn't cover my hair and wear long skirts in public if I cared what you think. It's not for you, it's for G-d.

    My daughter just turned 7 and I am horrified at what I am finding in stores for 7 year olds. 'It's what the market demands' my backside - there is no corporate responsibility when there is a buck to be made off of peer pressure, and the younger the better. Truly Disgusting.

  81. #81
    Dianna said on April 18, 2006 | Reply

    We wear these swimsuits and think their great. I can not call the "colored underwear" in the stores swimsuits and they are far from being modest! Ever christian woman out there should study the whole bible about what GOD says about modesty. You'll find when he clothed the women it was from head to toe. It's not what others think, it's what God thinks. We have never had one negative comment on these swimsuits. My husband travels for business and we've been to several states. But again it's not what other people think, it's what the bible says. These swimsuits are very easy to swim in, dry very quickly, nice looking. My teenage daughters have never felt embarassed at wearing them. They have been asked where they got them.

  82. #82
    Dianna said on April 18, 2006 | Reply

    In commenting on the march 26 statement. As christians, the father is the head of the home and any child under his roof will be under his authority, especially if they've been "born again". Any daughter who would have a father to care so much about them and be under the Lord's rule would love their parents and respect the place God has put them in. If you can't be under your authority in the home, your not under Gods. Dating is not mentioned in the bible . Study what the bible says about the "spirit of a harlot." Courtship is far better than dating. As being older and wiser, not raised in a "good" christian home, the church I have attended now for many, many years does not date at all. Yes very different from other conservative churchs. We have faith marriages and divorce is very rare. You do not know your spouse hardly at all except the 2-3 hours you spent together at a singing and expressed each others views and what direction the Lord is leading you. If both follow what the bible says about how you are to treat each other or other people, and are taught very well in the church those scriptures, your marriage should not fail. That doesn't mean everything is a bed of roses as you would like it to be, but when the bible is followed.....OH WHAT JOY!

  83. #83
    Angela said on April 22, 2006 | Reply

    Yes, God made Adam without clothes. After Adam sinned he made himself some clothes. Nearly as I can tell, it was a leaf loincloth. ("aprons of fig leaves")

    When God came that evening, did he praise Adam for his good covering? No. AND God no longer accepted Adam, now a sinner, in the nakedness in which He created him.

    God made Adam and his wife (who were married and there was no one else aroung to see or lust), He made Adam and his wife COATS of skins (plural - took more than one skin). God considered that level of covering acceptable. You know, leather is not particularly see-through or revealing.

    When someone wants to dress himself or herself to please God--not other people, not society as a whole--that person probably thinks carefully about the type of clothes God made when He did it Himself. He or she may reach the conclusion that the typical swimsuit, which could be made from less than one animal skin, isn't enough clothing.

    How much more clothing is needed should be a matter of their conscience before God.

    No, I am not advocating we all dress in leather. No, I am not saying I think we need to wear heavy winter coats at all times.

    I am saying God personally covered up His children. Since I am a descendent--and a sinner--I think if God were here, He would want me covered, too. I am no better than Adam.

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    natascha bierman said on April 24, 2006 | Reply

    WOW PRAISE THE LORD.
    i am glad to have found a solution to my question namely what to wear when going to the coast. I love the water but i love God more, therefor i would like to honor him by keeping his comandment. nobody needs to see my body but my husband, this way i don't feel like i am on a meat market. i would still be modestly dressed and yet i am able to enjoy the water and swim, so it is a nice compromise this way, and as far as for my daughter you better believe she will be wearing it as well. I don't need guys eyes balls to pop when looking at her.

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    Annie said on April 27, 2006 | Reply

    Wow! Lots of comments on this one. Probably no one will read this far down, but I'll post anyway.

    I am 18 and always felt uncomfortable in even regular one-piece swimsuits, wishing that they had some kind of short skirt, or went higher in the neckline. I am an active swimmer and we often go to the beach with our cousins - I always simply felt uncomfortable. This is not because I am overweight or feel ugly - I weigh about 110 and have a good figure.

    But I don't want to show off my beauty to just anyone - and besides that, I love my brothers in Christ and don't want to make life hard for them.

    Do I think these swimsuits look silly? Quite frankly, yes. But I would be delighted to see anybody in them, because it shows that someone cares about modesty. I don't think you need to dress that extremely - but our culture is so far gone to immodesty that seeing anyone take a firm step in the other direction delights me. I have a swimsuit I ordered from a Mennonite company that has a skirt that goes down to two inches above my knees. I have gotten comments such as "Is this a swim dress?" in a weirded-out voice, but I take it as a compliment.

    I want to both save my beauty for my husband and be an ally instead of an enemy in the battle for my brothers' minds and hearts. Do I think you have to wear those suits to do this? No. But I think you have to wear something different than the bikinis our culture promotes as beautiful and sexy.

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    CT said on April 27, 2006 | Reply

    I posted some comments earlier as well. As i mentioned, i am a dude (a male) and i find it such a joy to come this site and actually read about girls who find it a joy to cover their bodies! Man, where are you girls in real life, cause i sure aint seein none where i live.

    I just want to mention i totally agree with diana's comments on the 18th of april! ... and thanks to all the ladies that cover themselves just like God and Jesus would want it to be. I think you girls and ladies are all lovely.

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    Jimbo said on April 28, 2006 | Reply

    Well thank the Lord for your site! I was researching modest swimwear on the internet when I stumbled upon your fine website. I'm so relieved you offer beach clothing that covers up those pesky boobs and butts. I know through my teachings at the COC that God wants women and men to cover up their curves. Someone tried to tell me that women and men are built the way they are to attract a mate, but I know that's just stupid talk. The bible is right about everything, and I wont accept that society is changing. I think we should go back to the time of Christ and crucify people on death row. We should stone our children if they misbehave, and kill gay people for their sinful ways; the story of Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 18, 19) tells us that God will someday wipe out San Fracisco for all their fagginess. I know because of Ezekiel 4:12-13 and II Kings 18:27 we shall eat poop in fine dining restaurants some day. I know because of Deuteronomy 23:1-2 that if I injur my balls I shant get into heaven (which is why I wear a cup at all times).

    You see, since my saving I've learned a lot. Society is falling because we don't follow what the bible really says. Although all interpretations are different, I know ours is right because the elders say so. There is only one true way, and all those, muslims, mormans, catholics, buddhists, shintos, hindus, native Americans, rastafarians, atheists, baptists, methodists, protestants, and all 6 billion people with differing religious views will surely burn in hell in their skimpy bikinis. Let us give thanks for your body tents.

  88. #88
    azzface said on April 28, 2006 | Reply

    Thanks for coming out with swimwear for ugly people. who wants to see them in a bikini anyway? yuck.

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    mae said on April 28, 2006 | Reply

    ok so i didn't read all the comments... however i would like to say a few things.
    personally i am looking for a tankiki suit with a decent neckline and board shorts. this to me is perfectly modest. the bathing suits above are fine if that is what you feel lead to wear and is what you are comfortable in however does that mean that every woman out there who wears a decent tankiki of one piece is going against the bible? cause i think that that is getting fairly judgmental about a whole lot of people who are trying to be modest. and well judging them for what they are wearing is just as wrong as anything else. so go ahead and wear them if thats what makes you happy however don't go and tell people that they are wrong if they aren't.

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    Don said on May 1, 2006 | Reply

    azzface, you are obviously confused between "modest" and "ugly." Thanks, though, for being a perfect example that that there are worse things than being ugly on in outside...namely, being ugly on the inside.

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    Janice said on May 7, 2006 | Reply

    How can a girl swim in those costumes?

    She would be pulled down if they ever tried to swim a stroke.

    Try a 1 pc speedo with longer legs maybe.. Give the girl chance to enjoy the water and maybe compete in swimmng.

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    CT said on May 8, 2006 | Reply

    You see Janice, that is just the problem. You say "and give the girl chance to COMPETE in swimming" ... Why does it always have to be about competition. A Christian women should know that she should not compete for anything except for the competition against herself for the love of God. If you girls want to go out and swim ... do so, but do it in the way God would want and that is having proper wear like the Bible describes. Dont go and do it for competition like this world has made it out to be... competition for money ... competition for beauty ... competition for prestige ...etc. It is things like this, that has made the world such a corrupt place such as it is!

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    stryker said on May 9, 2006 | Reply

    iam 16 and have been homeschooled all my life. i have my dad and 3 brothers as wel as my mom and 4 sisters. My sisters and i try at all times to look our best without looking like homeschool nerds that wear a homespun dress with tennis shoes and long rats nest hair! i have seen many people dress like this and instead and of attracting attention to themselves, they attract A LOT of attention.....and trust me it isn't from the opposite sex!! these bathingsuits will do the exact samething....... IT IS possible to be modest AND attractive!!! Some of you, not all of you, buy these suits because lets face it......you're huge! the reason your huge is is partly because your homeschooled.... if you would go to a public school you would take part in required P.E. everyday. but since you are homeschooled, you sit at your homeschool support group meeting and just.......SIT!!! A lot of homeschoolers don't do P.E. because they are inside doing schoolwork.........or they are eating lunch..etc most of the time you don't want to leave your house....or you get lazy from never having any physical activity! this is why some of you are buying the ugly, burlap sack bathing suits.......you use the coverup of "oh, i need to be modest!" but half of it is because you have roles of fat hanging off you! well.......get in shape!!!!!!!!! not to leave you all feeling discouraged........go jion a gym that is specificly only for women....Curves. it only takes 30 minutes out of your day, 3xs a week for however long you need! so get in shape and out of your homeschool rut!!

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    Joyce said on May 9, 2006 | Reply

    these are the ugliest swimsiuts ever! i am 15 and have been homeschooled all my life and i would never wear something like this. modest should not be tranlated to ugly. there is a way to look modest and very cute. i have four sisters and we look modest and yet we don't look like we are wearing sacks! someone said in a previous comment that you can't find a modest swimsiut in the stores! o my gosh! yes you can. you just have to look!

    you don't have to stand out to be modest!!!!!!!!

  95. #95
    mike davis said on May 11, 2006 | Reply

    I SAY SWIM NAKED

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    mercedes essance tream thats my full name said on May 12, 2006 | Reply

    my friends and i believe in modesty and these bathing suits are fine i think that maybe they should make them in different colors and maybe in a different style and fabric i personaly wouldnt were one but i do appritiate the thought
    you can be fashionable and modest at the same time just wear a modest one peice with out to much of a dip in the chest area ( you can wear a two peice if you want to,no one is saying that its wrong it is your choice after all) i personally do wear a two piece in my own home and at my swimming competition because i do like to feel the water on my body thanks bye

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    Samantha said on May 12, 2006 | Reply

    I am a 17, and have not always felt as strongly as I do now about women (and men) dressing modestly. I used to wear tight swimsuits that showed my stomach and everything else. As I've gotten older, I have grown more uncomfortable with the looks I get at the pool or beach, or even walking through the grocery store with shorter shorts or a slimmer fitting shirt. I have started wearing more long skirts and looser blouses (still flattering if not more so) and feel so much more comfortable. I agree that you do not have to look frumpy to be modest, but there is a line. I have 4 friends that own these swimsuits (ages 13, 17, 19, and their mom) and they love them. They have the slimming ones and despite what you may think, they are very flattering and they can swim in them just as easily as in a one-piece and shorts. I'm serious. There is no reason why a woman has to show off her body to look beautiful. And no, not all women that wear a bikini at the beach will be raped. And certainly a man would be responsible for his actions, but we women are also responsible for our actions too. We are not to be a stumbling block to our brothers. I like looking nice, feminine, and classy, but I don't have to compromise. I hope to buy one of these suits in the very near future, because I live near a river and plan to participate in some water sports this summer with my very close male friends. I would be uncomfortable wearing a "normal" swimsuit around them, despite their being very good, Christian young men who can and do control their thoughts. Thanks to those of you that do believe in modesty and defend it in words far more elloquent than my own.

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    Joy said on May 14, 2006 | Reply

    I am a 16 year old christian girl and homeschooled. I have a tankhini bathing suit with the boy-cut shorts. And it is very modest. I think it is so stupid how homeschoolers have this preconceived idea that modest equals ugly. Samantha said "I agree that you do not have to look frumpy to be modest, but there is a line." I agree there is a line, but most people go way over the modest side of that line and they draw attention to themselves by looking like absolute frumps!!! Other people go way over the other side of the line and also draw attention by looking like sluts! But there is an inbetween where you can look very cute and not like a homeschooling nerd!!!

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    sarah said on May 14, 2006 | Reply

    I just want to say that we need to remember that the Lord convicts different people about different things at different times. Those of you who feel that modesty is next to Godliness can't beat that into someone else if God hasn't spoken to their hearts. Those of you who feel that the suit is over the top shouldn't be dumping on the ones who feel it's right for them. Support them and applaud the way they stand by their convictions.

  100. #100
    Jag said on May 15, 2006 | Reply

    Can anyone tell me when the meaning of the word "convicted" changed to mean convinced? Or is this an American Christian thang? Sheesh.

  101. #101
    Don said on May 15, 2006 | Reply

    convict: To make aware of one's sinfulness or guilt.

    I don't think it ever "changed" nor is it particularly "an American Christian thang." It simply is another meaning/use of the word.

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    Robyn said on May 15, 2006 | Reply

    I love checking in on this site :o)

    I made my first comment around April 16 (give or take). I ordered the swimsuit pattern to make my own "little black dress" swimsuit. I LOVE IT!!

    It is both modest and super cute (I took off the sleeves and traded the leggings for a two piece swimsuit bottom.

    Skirt can be lengthened or, in my case, shortened. As can the bodice. Very easy pattern to follow and sew!!

  103. #103
    jag said on May 15, 2006 | Reply

    I beg to differ. The word is "convinced". Convicted has another meaning entirely.

    verb |kənˈvikt| [ trans. ] (often be convicted) declare (someone) to be guilty of a criminal offense by the verdict of a jury or the decision of a judge in a court of law : her former boyfriend was convicted of assaulting her | [as adj. ] ( convicted) a convicted murderer. noun |ˈkänˌvikt| a person found guilty of a criminal offense and serving a sentence of imprisonment. ORIGIN Middle English : from Latin convict- ‘demonstrated, refuted, convicted,’ from the verb convincere (see convince ). The noun is from obsolete convict [convicted.]

  104. #104
    Don said on May 15, 2006 | Reply

    Words can and commonly do have more than one meaning such as a nun's habit. While one might be correct in saying nuns wear uniforms, it is more accurate to say that nuns wear habits. No matter how much one wants to jump up and down and insist that nuns wear uniforms, the more correct phrase is that they wear habits (assuming they are habit wearing nuns).

    Likewise, while you want so very much want for the word to be "convinced," the more correct word is "convicted." Convinced will do just fine just as uniform will do just fine, but convicted is more accurate and more fully conveys the speakers intended message as shown in the definition I previously quoted.

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    jag said on May 15, 2006 | Reply

    Well thanks for explaining that words sometimes have 2 or more meanings. As I am over 5 though, I was aware of that. However, your case in point is not correct. "Convicted" does not mean as you and these others are using it. You will not find it used as an alternative to "convinced" in any reputable dictionary. It is not only not "more correct" in this instance it is without question incorrect. With all due respect, you are being ridiculous by defending the indefensible.

  106. #106
    Don said on May 15, 2006 | Reply

    "You will not find it used as an alternative to "convinced" in any reputable dictionary."

    Oh really:

    Merriam-Webster OnLine, con*vict, transitive verb, second definition: "to convince of error or sinfulness"

    Thus "convict" is a more precise form of "convince." Where as you can convince people of many things, when you convince them of error or sinfulness you are more precisely "convicting" them.

    Likewise, for:

    Answer.com, con*vict, third definition, "To make aware of one's sinfulness or guilt."

    And, same for:

    Dictionary.com, con*vict, third definition, "To make aware of one's sinfulness or guilt."

    Seriously, do you look things up before you say stuff?

  107. #107
    jag said on May 16, 2006 | Reply

    Are you serious? None of that supports your position at all. I'm amazed that you would use that. You really are a joker aren't you? But have it your way. I don't care how americans are mangling the language any more.
    I do think what you speak should be called American though cause it sure ain't English.

  108. #108
    Don said on May 16, 2006 | Reply

    I've heard the term used just as Sarah used it many times and in different parts of the country. I really think the Merriam-Webster definition hits it dead on. But, if you don't see that, oh well.

    I will admit Americans are great at mangling the language, but this is not an instance of mangling.

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    mikitta said on May 16, 2006 | Reply

    I think these particular suites are just butt ugly. Now don't get me wrong, I don't like the skimpywear that is all too common either. So far, Ohana has come closest to what I like. VERY modest and covering, while not being bulky, frumpy or just plain UGLY. Thier suits look like they give you freedom of movement.

    The wholesomewear suits - well let's just say that if they were marketed as jumpers to go to park and play at the play ground I would still think they were horidly ugly. For swimming - I am sure the women who wear them have amazing arms - just think of the drag they get from all that balooning material.

    I think my ideal swimsuit would look more like a wet suit that covered me from knees to collarbone, with mid arm sleeves. Easy to swim in, modest, reduces exposure to UV radiation and it would lend itself to just about any water activity - from snorkling to water skiing to high diving.

    I love utility, I hate the ugg.

    God Bless,
    mik

  110. #110
    Tzingca said on May 21, 2006 | Reply

    Jag, one can try to convince you that the word has been used correctly, but it's probably better to make you aware that there is another meaning of the word that apparently does not appear in your dictionary. (As an editor, I have discovered all dictionaries are not created equal!)

    (See convicted at websters.com)
    (See convicted at m-w.com)

    Reworked, this is the meaning as the author wrote the sentence. "I just want to say that we need to remember that the Lord makes different people become aware of their sinfulness at different times."

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    CJ said on May 22, 2006 | Reply

    CT, I just want to say that your comments were irritating. The notion that girls shouldn't compete is preposterous!! Why then, is it okay for men to compete? If all competing is about is money, beauty or prestige? Are men immune?

    I want to say that I do believe in dressing modestly, but come on, moderation in all things. Didn't the Lord deem sackcloth for mourning? Why should we burden ourselves with it on a daily basis? Our bodies are sacred, and I do not disagree with covering it. Function before matter though, and personally, as a competitive swimmer, I could not, nor would not try to wear anything like that. It just is not practical.

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    Vanessa said on May 22, 2006 | Reply

    The swimsuits are great. It is much better than the half naked hoochee-mama things that everyone is wearing. I would suggest one thing: a more modern design and cut.

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    Liz said on May 23, 2006 | Reply

    Weren't we created naked? Wasn't God upset about the fact that Adam and Eve felt they had to cover themselves? Wasn't there a purity in accepting how God has created us and not being ashamed of it?

    While I don't think much would get done wandering around without clothes on (the paper cuts would be killer), I really think modesty is a CHOICE based on comfort, not a mandate from the Bible. Why be ashamed? Celebrate yourselves, as you best see fit! And don't judge others for how they choose to celebrate the vessel God provided for them in this life.

    The body is a beautiful thing. If a man's ability to control himself worries you, then why are men still the majority of our doctors, our priests and our professors? Give them a little credit. Guys are good people, too.

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    ccwade said on May 24, 2006 | Reply

    Chastity is the virtue which excludes or moderates the indulgence of the sexual appetite.

    With chastity is often confounded modesty, though this latter is properly but a special circumstance of chastity or rather, we might say, its complement. For modesty is the quality of delicate reserve and constraint with reference to all acts that give rise to shame, and is therefore the outpost and safeguard of chastity.

    Not my handy work, checkout this website for the full explaination. http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/03637d.htm

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    laura said on May 25, 2006 | Reply

    I think the above swimsuits are cool!!!!! I know they will not pull one down, because of what tipe of fabric they are made from. I swim in all cotten shirt, skirt, and shorts right now. The swimsuits above look great !!!!!!

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    Dan said on May 27, 2006 | Reply

    I have a question to all the women that have responded negatively to statements of modesty. Are you a man? For as sure as a man cannot understand the miracle of child birth, the strangeness of a menstrual cycle and the loathsomeness of having to share your existence with a person that is obviously not as intelligent as you (this is some of the opinions express by the women in this group towards men). I say that women cannot possibly fathom the sexual nature of a man. Every study done on a male sexuality shows that most men are aroused by sight! What a revelation! So if you like prancing around in some thick underwear, without regard towards those around you, that you might be stirring up lust in their hearts, or putting others to shame, at the least you’re a self centered brat with no consideration for the weakness of your so called brethren (saying that you’re saved) or the other women around you. IT is almost like flaunting your wealth. How tacky!!! If you’re unsaved then it really doesn't matter. Because a lost person has nothing but self centerness (without Christ you only have yourself). If these ladies want to wear something that makes them feel modest than what is that to you! I grew up around strippers, pornographers and perverts and guess what, they aren't free to express themselves, they are condemned in their own minds as being unworthy and lost. They felt that exploiting their bodies was the only value that they have. If you’re not a Christian and you’re looking just to attack people because of their beliefs then “Get ye behind me Satan” because I see enough of “your” opinions on billboards, TV, magazines and anywhere else you have the opportunity to push your agenda (secular humanist religion). Please pray for your own salvation in Christ while you still have a breath to do so. Oh and for those women are seeking modesty thank you for being real and considerate.

  117. #117
    pm said on May 28, 2006 | Reply

    Gosh could a morman person wear their undergarments under this suit if they want to?

  118. #118
    Sharla said on May 29, 2006 | Reply

    I actually read all the comments on this site! I agree that we should worship the Creator and not the creature! It is about what God wants, not us. So many have justified what we believe to be okay. Even some of the "Christians" don't seem to know much about modesty. God instituted modesty in the Garden of Eden along with marriage. Marriage hasn't changed why should modesty? God put a "coat" or "tunic" on man AND woman. Study the tunic. It covers from neck to knee and sometimes to the elbow. The priest in the old testament were said to "show their shame" when they lifted their tunics and showed their thighs when crossing the river. They had to cross, but not with shame. Every time the thigh is mentioned throughout the bible is comes with shame. That is God, not me talking. He created shame. It isn't bad. Neither is a conscience! Man makes shame a bad thing. The bible also speaks of a people that cannot blush. They lost the ability to feel shame. God condemned this.
    My husband is a police officer in Denver, Co. It would scare any of you to death if you truley knew how many sex offenders there are in this city and nation!!! Something is making it worse. One child sex offender said "why can't the parent's see that they add to my temptation by letting their children dress immodestly?" Not my kids! I have taught them modesty from day one. They feel weird if they are uncovered! They feel sorry for girls that are allowed to show it all off. We have taught them with love and trust, not an iron fist!
    There is more to life than skin and sex! We are under a new law of Liberty in Jesus Christ. Let's consentrate on what we can do and not what we can't! We can be Christians and marry, have kids, love and give love, and spread the light of Christ to a dying world! The Bible is full of can do's. Quit worrying about the few of us who choose not to look like every other person out there. It would be easy to be one of you. Can you be like me or better yet, Jesus? Just like I tell my daughters, any girl can give herself away, but once you do you can NEVER get it back!!! Same with modesty. Once the world has seen, it is too late to take it back. You can cover in the future, but many have already seen you!
    Please visit www.givemethebible.net to learn more about Salvation and being a Christian.
    The only thing you have to loose is your soul!!!!!!!!!

  119. #119
    Leo said on May 29, 2006 | Reply

    Well first off, this is the first time I saw this thread. I got a laugh from "Holiness" that wanted show the world she was "saved 6 yrs ago", yet when it came to swimwear, "but not show the world what the Lord gave me"

    Now for all you claim to be "christians" and read the bible. Let me guess these scriptures don't count your your church's edited bible.

    SCRIPTURES INVOLVING NAKEDNESS IN THE BIBLE

    (Genesis 2:25, 3:11) God never told Adam and Eve they were naked.

    (Genesis 3:7, 3:11) Man clothed himself after he sinned, because of fear and as a self-righteous act to redeem himself.

    (Genesis 1:31) God declared His handiwork, including the nude human figure, is "very good".

    (Micah 1:8 ) Prophets were known for prophesying in the nude. (See below.)

    (1 Samuel 19:23-24) Saul, Samuel and all those who went before him, prophesied naked "all day long" after the Holy Spirit of God came on them. (see quotation below)

    (Isaiah 20:2-4) Isaiah was commanded by God to go naked before everyone for 3 years as a sign. God who hates sin does not command people to something sinful or wrong. (see quotation below)

    (2 Samuel 6:14) David danced naked, i.e. wearing a vest (or "linen ephod") before all Israel as an "act of worship" to God. Michal claimed he was acting as a "vulgar man would," but was cursed for her rebukes.

    (Mark 14:51) A follower of Jesus fled naked from the Garden of Gethsemane during the arrest. He had come out to see it, dressed only in a light linen night covering.

    (John 19:23) Jesus was hung on the cross completely naked, the way Romans crucified all their victims.

    (John 21:7) Peter, one of the twelve disciples of Jesus, fished naked, and was doing so when Jesus came to him after he was resurrected. It was customary for people to work without the encumbrance of clothing in those days.

    (Galatians 5:16; Titus 1:15) A transformed, purified heart is stronger than clothing, to keep you free from lust and sin.

    (Matt 25:41-43) "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me."

    There is no sin in being homeless, hungry, thirsty or even naked here. The sin is in seeing a need and choosing not to fill it. Those who were naked were so because of poverty. It is similar to our homeless people today.

    SCRIPTURES THAT SUPPORT NATURISM

    Gen 1:31 "and God saw ALL that He had made, and it was very good."

    Gen 2:25 "and they were naked and felt no shame ..."

    Exodus 22:26-27 "If ever you take your neighbour's garment in pledge, you shall restore it to him before the sun goes down; for that is his only covering, it is his mantle for his body; in what else shall he sleep?"

    God's focus here is on the man's comfort when he sleeps in the cool of the evening rather than on the fact that he might be naked during the daylight hours.

    1 Sam 19:23-24 "and he went thither to Naioth in Ramah: and the Spirit of God was upon him also, and he went on, and prophesied, until he came to Naioth in Ramah. 24 And he stripped off his clothes also, and prophesied before Samuel in like manner, and lay down naked all that day and all that night. Wherefore they say, Is Saul also among the prophets?"

    The sense of the story is that public nudity was common and expected of the Hebrew prophets, and even served as a standard professional practice.

    Isaiah 20:2-4 "at that time the LORD spoke through Isaiah son of Amoz. He said to him, "Take off the sackcloth from your body and the sandals from your feet." And he did so, going around stripped and barefoot. 3 Then the LORD said, "Just as my servant Isaiah has gone stripped and barefoot for three years, as a sign and portent against Egypt and Cush, 4 so the king of Assyria will lead away stripped and barefoot the Egyptian captives and Cushite exiles, young and old, with buttocks bared-to Egypt's shame."

    Isaiah, the prophet, was commanded by God to go naked for three years as a witness against Egypt, of the shame they would suffer for not obeying God, and God would not command someone to sin. The shame they would suffer was not due to being naked, but rather not being able to care for their own bodies.

    Matt 6:25-34 Jesus says, 25 "Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing? 26 Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they? 27 Which of you by worrying can add one cubit to his stature? 28 "So why do you worry about clothing? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow: they neither toil nor spin; 29 and yet I say to you that even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these. 30 Now if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is, and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will He not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? 31 Therefore do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' 32 For after all these things the Gentiles seek. For your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. 33 But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you."

    Mt 21:8 "And a very great multitude spread their clothes on the road;"

    Lk 12:22-24 "Then Jesus said to his disciples: "Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat; or about your body, what you will wear. 23 Life is more than food, and the body more than clothes. 24 Consider the ravens: They do not sow or reap, they have no storeroom or barn; yet God feeds them. And how much more valuable you are than birds!"

    Lk 12:27-28 "Consider how the lilies grow. They do not labour or spin. Yet I tell you, not even Solomon in all his splendour was dressed like one of these. 28 If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today, and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, how much more will he clothe you, O you of little faith!"

    Rom. 14:14 "...I am fully convinced that nothing is unclean of itself. But if someone considers something unclean then for him it is unclean."

    Col 2:23 "Such regulations indeed have the appearance of wisdom, with their self-imposed worship, their false humility and their harsh treatment of the body, but they lack any value in restraining sensual indulgence."

    2 Cor 5:17 "If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation"

    1 Tim 4:4 "everything created by God is good and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving..."

    Tit 1:15 "To the pure all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure."

    FURTHER SCRIPTURAL SUPPORT IS EVIDENCED IN THE FACT THAT....

    In 1 Timothy, he gives instructions as to HOW we should dress, not THAT we should dress. It's a fine line, but it's quite distinct. To give another example, he gives many directions as to HOW we are to treat slaves; but he doesn't anywhere say THAT we should have slaves. See the difference?

    Rev 3:17 "You say, 'I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.' But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked.'"

    In these last two verses, obviously clothing doesn't even cover your spiritual nakedness.

    Rev 3:4,5,18; 4:4; 6:11; 7:9,13,14
    "White robes or garments" - Clean, white clothing in the book of Revelation is consistently a symbol of religious and moral purity, especially in the face of persecution (see 3:18; 4:4; 6:11; 7:9, 13), while soiled or disheveled clothing, or no clothing at all, is a symbol of religious and moral impurity and shame (see 3:17-18; 16:15).

    WHAT THEN ARE WE INSTRUCTED TO CLOTHE OURSELVES IN?

    Rom 13:14 "Rather, clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the sinful nature."

    2 Cor 5:2-4 "Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, 3 because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. 4 For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life."

    Gal 3:26-27 "You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ."

    Col 3:12 "Therefore, as God's chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience."

    1 Tim 2:9-10 "I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, 10 but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God." Dressing modestly, in this case, means "don't dress up" in order to show off.

    1 Pet 3:3 "Do not let your adornment be merely outward-arranging the hair, wearing gold, or putting on fine apparel, 4 rather let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the incorruptible beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is very precious in the sight of God."

    Rev 19:8 "And to her it was granted to be arrayed in fine linen, clean and bright, for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints."

    CLOTHES DURING BIBLICAL TIMES

    In Greek (New Testament era) the common garment is called a himation. The himation was typically the only and single garment owned by the common majority in those times (recall the Law of Moses commandment against keeping a debtor's garment, Exodus 22:26-27). More wealthy persons also could own a chiton, made of linen. In the Old Testament, wealthy persons and royalty also possessed multiple garments. The garment industry slowly developed in the ancient Near East over the period between 4,000 BC to the time of Christ, as the population increased, and the economy made it feasible. Clothing was worn for warmth, to show that a man had married a woman (Ezek 16:7-8 ), and to show prestige (as in Joseph's coat of many colors), but not to hide "private parts." That came later with the teaching of the Gnostics and later, Augustine.

    Historically, underwear as we understand it first came into general use only about 200 years ago (see The Importance of Wearing Clothes by Lawrence Langner, 1991 edition, chapter 16). Thus, lacking underwear, when people removed their himation (and chiton if they had one) they would inevitably have been totally naked.


    pick-and-choose christians, class dismissed

  120. #120
    Leo said on May 29, 2006 | Reply

    Well since the subject of rape was brought up, according to Deuteronomy 22:25-29
    25 But if out in the country a man happens to meet a girl pledged to be married and rapes her, only the man who has done this shall die. 26 Do nothing to the girl; she has committed no sin deserving death. This case is like that of someone who attacks and murders his neighbor, 27 for the man found the girl out in the country, and though the betrothed girl screamed, there was no one to rescue her.

    28 If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, 29 he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. [a] He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives

    So... if your virgin daughter was raped, the rapist pays fifty shekels of silver, and gets to enjoy the fun forever.

    pick-and-choose christians, class dismissed

  121. #121
    Sharla said on May 30, 2006 | Reply

    [Edited, please, no name-calling. Sharla respectfully disagrees with Leo.]

  122. #122
    Lana said on May 30, 2006 | Reply

    Those swimsuits are ugly! Besides. Women should be allowed to show off if they so choose. It's up to the woman to resist the urges to sell herself. If she can resist the charms of men and fend them off, then she should be allowed to wear what she chooses.

  123. #123
    Ruth said on June 1, 2006 | Reply

    When I was thirteen I was so proud of my new body. I wanted to show it off. My non-conservative brother took me bathing suit shopping because I didn't have one. I found a bathing suit that most people would call "modest". My mother was somewhat upset when I came in with it, but it was late and it would be "embarasing" to return it. I bought shorts to go with it and mom had to be satisfied with that. Sadly, somtimes I "forgot" the shorts.

    I now look back at that bathing suit and cringe at the sinful rebellion I showed to my loving parents. Thankfully, I never continued down that path. But upon turning 18 this year. I realized that I will be an adult soon. If you see a girl at the beach wearing a 1920 style bathing suit, don't be surprized if it's me! It's not that my mom rules me with an iron fist, I decided not to be a stumbling block for my brothers. Mom wouldn't mind me being in a modest one piece with board shorts. I would!

    A Question for sceptics: What defines cute?

    If you think about it for a while it simply is: SEXY!

    But what's wrong with being sexy? Nothing! But I wonder why you are so self centered as to not care that that boy that just passed you blushed with embarasment and looked the other way. Why is it only the boy's fault for lust? A righteous man may make a covenant with his eyes but what about a woman? Where in the Bible is it good or proper for the child to make the decisions based on their feelings? When is it proper for anyone to make a decision based on feelings? Never. Not even marriage.

    I plan to marry a man who follows God with his whole heart. And the best way by my research is not by fishing for him. But by waiting for him. I am not so sex-hungry or boy crazy. I intend to be satisfied with my God ALL MY LIFE! I will not "fall in love" I won't be so captivated by my emotions. God says for women to love their husbands. It is an action. Not a feeling. Feelings are not evil at all! But their the wrapping to the package, the frosting on the cake. A marriage without it would be insipid. Just the frosting without the cake becomes sickening after a time.

    STOP USING YOUR EMOTIONS TO MAKE YOUR EVERY DECISION!

    Ps. Why not wear those bathing suits? Think about it. Are you so focused on the physical appearance

  124. #124
    leo said on June 1, 2006 | Reply

    "What defines cute? SEXY!"

    Umm, no. I remember when my daughter was 2, she had one of those victorian style felt dresses. That was cute, NOT sexy. You can wear cute clothes, and it not be sexy. And you can wear "sexy" clothes and not be sexy. Anybody ever seen a 300 pound man in a speedo?
    It's been said that Marilynn Monroe would look sexy in a burlap sack. So they had her wear one, and yes she was.

    I wouldn't wear those bathing suits because I'm a man. Also I sometimes swim in shorts and t-shirt. The t-shirt does not allow easy swimming, especially when the arm is fully extended up. Add to the fact, these bathing suits also have the dress portion will cause drag. That "bathing dress" would be fine for wading in water, but not for any extended swimming.

    I'm confused about your definition(s) of love.
    First you say "will not "fall in love"/captivated by my emotions. (Love is a feeling/emotion)
    Then you say "love their husbands. It is an action. Not a feeling." (love is not a feeling)
    Then you say "Feelings are not evil at all! But their the wrapping to the package, the frosting on the cake. A marriage without it would be insipid. Just the frosting without the cake becomes sickening after a time." (feeling/love are needed for a long marriage)
    Yet earlier you state you should not make decisions based on feelings.

    So which is it?

    So you plan to marry someone then "hope" to have feelings for them? Just get married for money, or just to have kids, that's worked great in the past.


    Please explain how you can "be a stumbling block for my brothers."

    While you are at it, please explain how a 2 year old thread can still be active with so many "modest" women who are on the internet. Anybody ever hear how "evil" the internet is?!?

  125. #125
    Jeanmarie said on June 3, 2006 | Reply

    Megan,

    I will be praying for you daily. God is our strength & salvation!

    Jeanmarie ~ age 16

  126. #126
    Tuffy said on June 3, 2006 | Reply

    "While you are at it, please explain how a 2 year old thread can still be active with so many "modest" women who are on the internet."

    Because [people] like you are still posting on it, then asking why it's still going.

  127. #127
    Don said on June 3, 2006 | Reply

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    NOTE: For those individuals who are posting questions to me (Don the owner of this little site) in this thread, you may have noticed that you have not received a response. This is because I either don't want to go off-topic or enter into a personal side discussion in the thread and because I cannot respond to your questions outside of this thread if you don't give me a valid email!!! I have had a bunch of my responses to your questions returned because an invalid email address was provided.
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  128. #128
    kiennah said on June 4, 2006 | Reply

    Though from a very.... shall we say liberal parentage, I have been christian all my life thanks to my grandmother. I got one of these swin suits when I was 10. I have always been very active, especially in the water. These suits have a very wonderful thought behind them, and sure if you are the occasional swimmer or swim only mild or lightly these are wonderful, but I was not able to swim efficiently. As a matter of fact, I found that it was very hard to swim in a depth of water I couldnt touch my feet at (this had nothing to do with my swimming ability my dad used to be a navy seal so I've been swimming since I could walk). Yes, these suits have a good moral idea behind them, one that I agree with and keep, but at the same time I believe that they arent practical. Think of it this way, you wouldnt year sneakers on a backbacking trip because they arent the prober equipment. Look at the way God designed the animals of the water; do they have a loose, exhorbitant exterior? No, they're streamlined becasue it is more efficient for swimming. I am currently 16 and I swim in a One piece and (boys because they are longer) swin trunks when I swim casually and a one piece and boy speedo shorts (the ones that go down to thier legs) when I swim for long distance because they offer less resistance. I once tried one of those surf tops, but found that they dont really fit my shoulders because mine are so broad.
    I will say this though, I absolutely love these, they are wonderful, but I am too active of a swimmer to wear them.

    bod bless
    ~kiennah

    PS: thanks for that ohana link whoever posted that! those are exactly what I have needed and pretty much what I wear but in one convientient package!

  129. #129
    Elizabeth said on June 6, 2006 | Reply

    I'm only sad I can't find modest swim wear in maternity! I want to go swimming in my parent's pool, so it would just be my family and I could wear pretty much whatever, but don't want my much younger siblings to think I condone showing as much skin as a regular swim suit.

    I have been married for 6 years now in July. When we first dated and married my husband was not a christian and I was still a very baby one. He like for me to wear tight and revealing clothes to show off my body, which at the time I was "proud" to do. After I wipped my mouth and said I have done no wrong.

    After Brandon repented and accepted Jesus Christ we started reading the bible and became convicted about my dress. We now have choosen that I should wear only skirts or dresses that are well below the knee, cover my shoulders, are high on the neckline and flow freely.

    Dressing this way my husband and I am certain that the Lord will be pleased, if ever there is any doubt, I won't buy, sew or wear it. How can a person serve the Lord to much, or follow his commandments too much? I know whom it is that I serve and it is not the world but God.

    I now find myself frustrated with other women and ashamed to think on my own past whenever I see a woman wearing too little in front of my husband.
    No other woman has the right to provoke my husband by dressing provocatively, or by any other means. I am rightously jealous over my husband as the Lord is jealous over his church.

    I am offended when I see men walking around shirtless, I do not desire to see any other man apart from my husband. By the way, we also have a modesty code for my husband, no shorts above the knee or pants/shorts that are too tight, such as Levis 501s, and shirted always in the presence of other females.

    Infidelity is not an issue in our relationship, but we wish to protect each other and our marraige, not to mention everyone else we come in contact with.

    Please consider as you choose your own wardrobe, that there are others out there who wish to protect the purity of their eyes and minds both before and after marraige.

    And if you know of any maternty swimwear that would fit our requirements or know how to alter a pattern to make it work, please let me know! When you click on my name it takes you to my husband's blog and you can contact me through his site.

  130. #130
    Jaclyn said on June 13, 2006 | Reply

    It's amazing how people can get so upset because of others beliefs. The Bible specifically stats t"Judge not, that ye be not judged."
    Matthew 7:1
    Everyone believes something else, and I don't understand why everyone seems to be judging everyone else. We all have our own opinions, and unfortunatley, most of those will never see it God's way. Some may love the suits, and others may never wear them. But what gives you a right to judge those who are doing what they believe? I do my best (with God of course) to not judge anyone else because I know how I would feel if they judged me. Just something to ponder.

    Thanks and to God be the Glory!!

  131. #131
    Rebecca said on June 13, 2006 | Reply

    Hi, I'm jumping in, just to thank the folks on the board for all the links to modest swimwear. I'm currently becoming a Torah-observant Jew (as opposed to the cultural Jew I've been for the last thirty-mumble years) and its been a challenge finding modest clothing. While the swimwear hasn't been quite what I need (knees and elbows are to be covered as well) its given me some good ideas.

    For those who are detractors- I have no problem with what you wear, or allow your children to wear. Why should you be upset with what I wear or purchase for my children?

  132. #132
    C.T. said on June 14, 2006 | Reply

    Firstly i would like to thank Ruth (although your comments are confusing at times) and especially Elizabeth for their comments. it is so true and i just am so thankful to God when i see and hear how He changed people like Elizabeth and her husband's life to the good. It shows that i am not alone in this world, although i feel very alone sometimes. Thanks for your comments elizabeth.

    As for Jaclyn above here, one of the people forever going on about not "judging" people. It is not judging people when i say that it is for the glory of Christ and God that you should dress modestly. Should I then forever keep quite and say nothing? How do people change then? By keeping your mouth shut or emploring them (never violently though) to change, because You know your Bible and God is speaking through you?

    I'm telling you, just like the Bible says that you should always lovingly try to convince people to change and tell them of the ways of God ... and this is NOT judging ... it is love, because i rather have someone hate me and i know that i have told them the truth, than rather keep quite and let them live in ingnorance without them truly knowing what God wants ... and that is love and not judging!

  133. #133
    Jaclyn said on June 14, 2006 | Reply

    Hey,

    This is for CT...sometimes we need to wait for the right time of when God allows us to tell others about His goodness. Sometimes people aren't always ready to hear what we have to say and God needs to work on them. And yes, sometimes it can be judging. I've been there and I've done that and I'm being honest about it. I'm not making it seem like I never tell people how good God is, but you need to have an open mind and spirit about when God is telling you the time is right.

    To God be the Glory!!

  134. #134
    Jaclyn said on June 14, 2006 | Reply

    I know I've just posted a comment...but I wanted to clear things up. I dress modestly, and I live my life for God. These swimsuits for me would not be ok, because I would feel I was revealing too much. I have different convictions than others, and I do things differently than others. It does not mean I'm better than you, or you're better than me. We all live in a world that is not perfect. We all have different comments and different ideas, and I don't want anything to start because I feel differently than some of you. CT, you do have some good opinions and if they work for you, then I think that is great. And if something works for me, no one should flip out because it's not how they would do it. We're all different, but God still loves us all. So thank you to everyone for all the different comments and opinions....

    Forever to God be the Glory!!!

  135. #135
    Sam said on June 14, 2006 | Reply

    Seems like everyone is missing the point. If YOU don't like it don't wear it. If you enjoy the "freedom" to undress and feel good about it , then others have the "freedom" to cover up and feel good about it and neither owes the other any justification.

  136. #136
    Shelly said on June 18, 2006 | Reply

    What is all comes down to is: Judge and be judged. If you want to wear a modest suit--wear one, if you want to wear something else--well, that's your perogative as well. God gave us free will and in the end--HE will judge us.

    Christians should know that shoving their beliefs or the Bible in someone's face in an opinionated way will not change their views. You will only turn them away from God by being judgemental. What's the purpose of being modest on the outside if nobody wants to listen what you have to say, because you are judging them. We are to "love" our neighbor, remember.

    As for those of you who make fun or anybody who wants to dress in a modest suit--shame on you! I bet you were one of those kids who made fun of others in elementary school who were too poor to afford stylish clothing. Grow up!

  137. #137
    Dana said on June 20, 2006 | Reply

    You know, the Lord works on people at different times and in different ways. Sometimes we can get bothered by or angry at those who do not have the same convictions we have yet are Christians just the same. The process of uncovering the body has been going on for thousands of years. The Bible tells us that the clothing Adam and Eve made themselves was not good enough for God and as a result he made them clothing which covered more. I think "fixing" the problem of immodesty is going to be a long process as well. Those of us who are in support of modesty should spend quite a bit of time in prayer that the Lord would reveal His plan of how we should dress to all. The problem is things are usually revealed to those who are SEEKING. Many are not willing to change their ways and attitudes and therefore do not ask to be shown what is right. Needless to say, there is a right and wrong. A favorite junior high teacher of mine always told us this: "One should do right because it is right to do right!" I believe that and in the end, I hope the Lord is pleased, for that is my purpose in how I dress and teach my children to dress!! I love the suits and see nothing wrong with them. Why do you have to look "cute" to swim? Swimming is a fun pass-time and good excersize!! It shouldn't be made as a beauty pageant. Beauty of the heart is much better than beauty of the body!!!

  138. #138
    CT said on June 22, 2006 | Reply

    Hello, i would just like to thank Jacklyn for her reply. You are right that not everyone does agree, because i still dont quite agree with you, but i accept your comments and think it is fair enough.

    The Bible teaches me, "yes, that not all will think the same", but when God and His word lives in you, you do feel the same about key issues ... such as the way you dress.

    Sam made a comment here above, that everyone should dress as they want to and have the freedom, which i cant stop anyway, because i do not have power over how other people dress, but dont you realise that in God;s word He says that you should dress modestly, so you can go ahead and dress like you want, but when Christ comes, He and God is not going to be too happy with you,because you did not do what He said, thats why i implore you rather to dress modestly and rather be mad at me, than be caught out when God comes.

    Furthermore thanks for all the comments, i especially liked what Dana had to say. May all have a cool day everywhere, also right here from South Africa where i am e-mailing from right now. and to all those who dont know, not all people in Africa are black (as yours truly) and i am not surrounded by wild animals, we do actually have civilization :-)

  139. #139
    Cindy said on June 24, 2006 | Reply

    I considered these suits as we are also concerned for modesty but think I might like the ones as Dressingforhisglory.com better. Take a look at the swim skorts and top.

  140. #140
    Katie said on June 25, 2006 | Reply

    I have not read this entire thread so I'm not sure if this has been asked yet or not, but how many of you are competitive swimmers? I swam competitively for thirteen years and let me tell you--the suits in the picture are not appropriate for competition. The loose fitting material creates drag and makes it extremely difficult to swim the strokes legally. As one who has swam in her clothes as part of a workout, I can also attest to the fact that swimming in this kind of material is very difficult. You're essentially expending needless effort trying to propel yourself while being weighed down by this fabric.

    I wear Speedos for competition/training, and always will. I can say with reasonable confidence that anyone singing the praises of these suits has yet to try swimming a 400 butterfly while wearing them. Good luck with that.

  141. #141
    Katie said on June 25, 2006 | Reply

    I'd also like to say that I did have a look at the Ohana website and it actually isn't that bad. I'd never compete in any of those suits but I might train in some of them. The Kilauea is cute and reminds me of the Speedo Fastskins (by the way, if y'all would like to shell out 400$ so I can have a fastskin, I'll gladly wear it and stop the boys from lusting after me). I don't trust the fabric without trying it personally because I've never worn anything but Speedo (I don't like the cut on TYR), though.

    So yes, it's not all awful, but that original link is a major no-no for any real swimmer. The site advertising that some suits are for a "more active swimmer" is just ridiculous. When I hear "active swimmer," I think "2-5 miles a day."

    Some of us DO think of swimming as a serious workout, a sport, and a way to build confidence--not a vehicle to show off our bodies.

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    Sarah said on June 28, 2006 | Reply

    Fankly ,I try( key word being try) not to care what people wear as it is really none of my concern.I do agree that society is getting more and more sexualized by the year though. As for my own choices they are modest. I'm 16 and still want to look young, but my skirts and shorts must be knee length or below. my tops are pretty modest, granted some are a little lower but not too low. This doesn't bother me because I'm doing it for my self. Now unlike you guys I'm not christian(I don't have a religion)but i stil have the main values because of my family. So I'll let you on the suject of swimwear yes there are too many skimpy things ,i want to throw long coats over some girls my goodness some of the stuff my peers wear.

    sarah

  143. #143
    CT said on June 28, 2006 | Reply

    Sarah, Please go to Elizabeth's message on the 6th of June and click on her name.

  144. #144
    gabby said on June 29, 2006 | Reply

    Liz on October 1, 2005 stated that her ideal would be a two piece modest suit. www.modest-swimwear.net has a suit just as you described. They sale patterns, but they also have a section with already made ones. Good Luck!

  145. #145
    Cindy said on June 29, 2006 | Reply

    Hi, I didn't read all the comments on this page, but I just wanted to share a link to another modest swimsuit that, in my opinion, is nicer looking than the one from Wholesome Wear. The website is www.modest-swimwear.net

  146. #146
    Aly said on June 30, 2006 | Reply

    I think it is absolutely wonderful that you would wear the swimsuits happily,unembarassed,to please Yahweh.he will certainly bless you.Personally,being 15 I would want something a little more stylish and feminine but if you are happy wearing it than that is great!.We are messianic and just started wearing skirts only that cover the knees so the bikinis arent exactly acceptable.I have had a lot of trouble trying to find a modest swimsuit and I dont really want to make one. i wrote down some of the sites that other visitors recomended. im about to go check them out. Thanks!

  147. #147
    Norma Jean said on July 4, 2006 | Reply

    I can not find out how to order the swimsuits on your web site unless I order them from Wholesome Wear. Can I order them from you?

  148. #148
    Don said on July 5, 2006 | Reply

    Norma, sorry but I do not sell anything from this website or anywhere else. You will have to try your luck with one of the sellers mentioned in the comments or someone else.

  149. #149
    Mark G said on July 11, 2006 | Reply

    I would concur that many Christians today dont have a clue about what the bible teaches concerning modesty. They are too busy listening to the preacher who promises them health, wealth, wisdom. Well that probably sounds more harsh than I intended but nonethless it needed to be said.

    Anyway I appreciate this swimwear. I dont want my daughter or my wife running around half naked knowing the fact of how mens/boys minds work. Of course I dont do public swimming anyway but when I'm in my yard we dont want to be immodestly dressed.

    Thanks to all those who've taken a stand and want to be modest before the Lord.

  150. #150
    Alicia said on July 12, 2006 | Reply

    I just want to say if you don't want to wear these swimsuits then freaking don't wear them!!!!!!!! And why do you care if other people do? There are some people on this sight who "know they are right" and, in my opinion are acting like retards! STOP TRYING TO FORCE WHAT YOU BELIEVE ON OTHER PEOPLE!!!!! 'Cause trust me most of the time they could care less!!!!!!

  151. #151
    diana said on July 13, 2006 | Reply

    those swimsuits will only draw more attention to those wearing them. I have a friend who is very modest, and she wears cut-offs over a one piece swimsuit. That way she is both modest, and no one thinks she forgot her swimsuit.

  152. #152
    K said on July 16, 2006 | Reply

    I would not wear one of these swim suits. But that does not mean that I am not modest. I am very protective of my body and I think that that is ok. I think that if somebody feels comfy and modest in one of these suits then they have the right to wear them. People should not be judged by what they wear. Everybody is entitled to their own opinion. If you do not like the suits then you dont have to wear them. You can buy something else.

  153. #153
    CT said on July 17, 2006 | Reply

    Could not agree more marg G!

  154. #154
    steve said on July 20, 2006 | Reply

    Modesty - Moderation in one's actions or appearance, not wishing to attract undue attention to oneself.

    If I ever see someone wearing something that ugly I will not be able to stop laughing.

  155. #155
    Jess said on July 20, 2006 | Reply

    WOW! What a lot of comments! I love the scriptures, that's very important.

    I'm 27 and married with no children. I do my best to dress modestly, on my own accord, not my husband's rulings. Actually, yesterday I threw out a skirt because it hit the middle of my knees and not below my knees, again, my own decision.

    What can I say....no, these swim dresses are not attractive, I'll give you that, they're not cute or anything like cute. To people who don't understand modesty, they are humorous. But, for one, God said in His word that we are a peculiar people and two, they are very modest and that is very very important to me. It is important to me because I want to please my Father in heaven. And what is modest for you is between you and God and noone else.

    I have been asked before "What if you get to heaven and God tells you that you didn't have to do all that and dress that strict?" My answer, "I would rather Him tell me I went too far than not far enough!"

    I have been considering buying one of these for the past 2 years.
    I don't go to the ocean or public pools because I don't want to be around what I feel is immodesty. Why should I dress modestly and put myself in a horribly immodest environment!?!? Good question huh!?!? Somethin' to think about!

    Anyway, my sister-in-law has one of these suits and told me about the site. She and her family dress modestly too. They live in the country far from most people. The females still wear these modest suits around their own family when they swim in their own pool!! My mother just bought a house with a pool and a privacy fence. These are the types of environments I would wear this suit in. Honestly, I would be embarrased to wear this suit in public, because, yes it is geeky.

    I cannot say that I would be proud to be seen in this suit. I have swam in my t-shirt and skirt before, but this suit is much more water resistant. It is light weight and does not drag one down like other heavier materials. No, sweethearts, people won't drown in these, but thank you for your kind concern.

    There are scriptures that define where the boundaries of modesty are. One specific scripture speaks of the thighs as being the nakedness. (Exodus 28:42) Therefore, one should cover the thighs because this is nakedness, and in the sight of God to be immodest. I do not judge a person's understanding or actions. One's understanding on the Word of God could be different from another's. But it is important to be ever learning and growing in the things of God, from the beginning of Genesis to the end of Revelation!

    One person wrote on attitude being modesty. A "modest attitude" is called shamefacedness and or sobriety which is also very important. But modesty mainly is considered the way we dress.

    To all of those seeking modesty, best of luck on affording one of these very modest, though not so attractive swim dresses!! God Bless your heart's efforts to please such a gracious, loving heavenly Father!

  156. #156
    Lindsay said on July 21, 2006 | Reply

    I am troubled that many of these comments may foster shame about their bodies in young girls. I imagine that it would be hard to transform a young girl's shame in her body into a reveling in her beauty for her husband's benefit. If you teach girls from childhood that their bodies are a liability, will they ever be able to truly enjoy sex? How about initiate it (with their husbands)? I would honestly like to hear from some married woman who were raised in this context and now enjoy personally fulfilling and, dare I say it, orgasmic sex lives with their husbands.

  157. #157
    Don said on July 21, 2006 | Reply

    Lindsay, not trying to be too argumentative but your concern sounds like a bunch of pop-psyche psycho-babble. I could just as easily argue that the comments and attitudes expressed wouldn't foster shame, but rather a proper sense of pride and a healthy attitude. Who's more secure in their wealth, someone who wears ostentatious jewelry and shows of their material possessions or someone who doesn't put on airs and who you don't even know is wealthy? Same for any other attribute, who's has a healthier attitude about being intelligent, someone who acts normal or someone who's always talking about their degrees and inappropriately using big words?

    Likewise, who has a better healthier body image, someone who wears small patches of sheer fabric showing off her stuff or someone who's just fine covering it all up? In my own anecdotal experience, the girls and women who dressed more modestly fretted about their bodies far less than those dressed immodestly.

    Is there really a huge difference between a flasher and someone covered in a few square inches of wet clingy sheer fabric? We know one is a sick son of a b**ch. So, does it make sense that the other is clear at the opposite end of the spectrum of mental health, body image and attitude?

    So, it could go either way. Someone could be messed up and exhibit it by dressing too immodestly or too modestly. Given the state of our beaches and pools, I'd say we have far too much of the former than the latter.

    As to, "If you teach girls from childhood that their bodies are a liability, will they ever be able to truly enjoy sex?" I just don't see any connection whatsoever. For example, if you teach a child that money can be a liability and that you shouldn't walk around flashing hundreds in bad neighborhoods, then will that child ever be able to truly enjoy being wealthy? The proposition is absurd.

    Maybe what our society needs is just a little bit more shame?

  158. #158
    Annie said on July 22, 2006 | Reply

    I am 17 and I am always trying to fond a modest bathing suit that is acceptable. I think that these are a little too far but, the idea is great. I want someone to make modest swimwear that is more like a tankini but with shorts for bottoms, and not low in the front! As for the people making fun of Christians, I think that you should learn more about our beliefs before laughing at us. It's not about what's on the inside."For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the spirit is life and peace!" Romans 8:6. God bless!

  159. #159
    Carol said on July 23, 2006 | Reply

    Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If you think they are attractive and you are more comfortable covering up to that extreme by all means buy one. However, don't make the mistake of thinking that because you subscribe to extreme modesty that you are more closely following the tenants of God. Women who wear two piece bathing suits are often Christian too. I suspect that these swimsuits are alarming to some women because that promote the attitude that women's bodies are shameful. Some may thing that it promotes the idea that women are responsible not only for controlling their own lust but the lust of men as well, which is an attitude that will lead to more rape. Contrary to a previous post assertion, rape was more prevalent in society prior to the 20th century as their were few if any laws and even after laws were enacted it was hard to find a jury to convict a man of rape. Even well into the 20th century women were often blamed for inciting his lust thus absolving him of any responsibility for his actions. They may fear that these suits are a step down the road towards burqas and all that a burqa represents-the loss of freedom. I note that one person on this site boldly states that girls should not be concerned with competition. Denying girls the chance to compete is a loss of freedom. Besides a woman can be covered from head to toe and still not be modest.

  160. #160
    Don said on July 23, 2006 | Reply

    Carol,
    "I suspect that these swimsuits are alarming to some women because that promote the attitude that women's bodies are shameful." I just don't understand this accusation. I think it is an unfair criticism by people who are subconsciously jealous of those who can overcome societal influences and peer pressure to dress in a fashion more modest than others would consider the "norm." Of ALL the women I know who dress modestly, NONE do it out of any sense of "shame."

    "Some may think that it promotes the idea that women are responsible not only for controlling their own lust but the lust of men as well, which is an attitude that will lead to more rape." This and your explanation that follows does not compare apples to apples. Too many variables have changed to properly compare modern society with pre-1900s society. As I've said before here, it is irresponsible to walk around with hundred dollar bills sticking out of every pocket. No one has the right to grab one of those bills from you, but if someone did, who wouldn't say, "Well, what were you thinking?

  161. #161
    Amy said on July 27, 2006 | Reply

    Ok, first of all you can be cute and not immodest. Regardless of what any of you think this is true!!! O my gosh! That is probably really shocking to most of you huh? Because most of you wear sack dresses (where you can't tell the front from the back) with tennis shoes. The only clothing store you go to is probably the local fabric store so your mom can pick out the "beautiful fabric" for your new sack! These "swimsuits" are supossedly modest. Basically why women would wear this is to not draw attention to themselves. Well let me tell you that wearing stuff like this would draw attention to them because they look so ugly! The typicall American (raised in a non-christian home) kid would make fun of another child wearing this thing. Why put your child through all that humiliation when you could get a perfectly modest one at a local store!!!!!!

  162. #162
    Grace said on July 31, 2006 | Reply

    It seems like the main idea of for wearing these swimsuits is to have modesty, which makes total sense. However, it just ends up hiding a womans beauty. God created women to be beautiful, so that we could represent God's beauty. I wouldn't judge anyone wearing this type of swimsuit. I'm saying that women shouldn't have to hide their beauty in order to be modest.

  163. #163
    Grace said on July 31, 2006 | Reply

    You know what? There is a bigger battle. Instead of arguing over whether these swimsuits are good or not, why don't we spend time praying for foreign missionaries, or praying over our churches. Satan would love to use these swimsuits to get us sidetracked from the real issues. No one can change anyone elses mind on the matter anyway! This is not what we should be worried about.

  164. #164
    Amy said on August 1, 2006 | Reply

    I agree with Grace 100%!!! Right on!!!!

  165. #165
    Don said on August 1, 2006 | Reply

    Grace said:

    "However, [the swimsuit] just ends up hiding a womans beauty."

    The swimsuits don't cover a woman's face, her smile, her personality, her grace, her elegance, her charm, or a hundred other things that make up a "womans beauty." They only cover up a woman's body from neck to knees.

    "I'm saying that women shouldn't have to hide their beauty in order to be modest."

    They shouldn't and these suits don't...unless the poor woman has absolutely nothing that contributes to her "beauty" other than what is hidden by these suits and for that woman I have much pity. In fact, much like many hollow, vacuous, saline and silicone stuffed Hollywood stars, I would say that if these suits cover up a woman's beauty...she wasn't truly beautiful to begin with.

    As to Grace's second post..."Hello kettle, this is pot calling."

    Have we all lost track of what is truly beautiful? Has Hollywood and Madison Avenue so twisted our beliefs? It's like Prince Charles and Princess Diana's wedding compared to my parents church basement wedding. One was truly beautiful and the other just plain sick and disgusting. Do you know which was which?

  166. #166
    Monique said on August 4, 2006 | Reply

    I think you can wear swimwear, being modest and flattering at the same time. Those suits are all very well and good, but I would choose something a little more flattering to my figure. I think anyone who wears those swimsuits should be commended and that their values are good. My choice would be from http://www.modest-swimwear.net/. I am 13 and wear more modest gear than my mother!
    God bless you all, no matter what your decision.

  167. #167
    Stephanie said on August 12, 2006 | Reply

    I agree with monique and anyone else on this forum that is on the side of modesty, or at least choice. i am 16 and have been saved for less than a year and i feel absolutly naked in a "normal" swimsuit. the bible comands us to be modest and not show off our body, after all, it is a temple unto the lord, right? yes, the human body is beautiful, but it is not meant for flaunting, it is to be saved for your HUSBAND after marriage.

  168. #168
    Erin Elizabeth said on August 14, 2006 | Reply

    I think that this swimsuit and other such swimsuits give an opportunity, not an order for women to dress more modestly. It is left up to the buyer and the wearer what they will put on.

    I would agree also with those who say it is an attitude problem as well. People can have provocative attitudes no matter what they wear.

    Men should have to show self-control, but you are now assuming all the men at swimming pools are Christians, and have any desire to please Christ. I prefer to not leave the decision in their hands as to what they have a chance to think about my body.

    Now, I will tell you a little about myself, I am a 19 year old girl who has been homeschooled all my life, who by the way is not fat! Homeschoolers are also quite active people, contrary to what some people (namely Stryker who commented May 9th) may believe. I find it offensive that people think they can categorize and group people they have never met. I am one of several girls I know who are homeschooled, active and not overweight. I have been in several Homeschool P.E. classes during my years at home. I can out run all of my public schooled friends! BTW if you once observed what most homeschooling mothers like to eat, you would think that they had stock in the health food store! Between green-drink (barley green), and goats meal (oatmeal with goats milk on it), fish-oil, [not that I have embraced all of the above], Whole wheat fill-in-the-blank etc. It is ridiculous that you would think that homeschoolers are all over weight! I might add, not all "health food" is nasty. We have found many healthier alternatives to various things. I find Whole wheat bread tastier than the white fluff.

    I would agree that clothes are discussed too much, I think people make so much of an issue about other people's lives, specifically that part that they can see and that is why it is an over discussed topic. Why are people so concerned about other people's clothes?

    Clothes are just a surface issue; there are far more important issues in a Christian's life.

    I think that rather than focus on what other people choose to wear, one ought to focus on their personal walk with Christ and pray that they will be drawn closer to Him each day.

    My standards are higher than most people I know and come in contact with, but I do not find it to be a point to judge others on. If people ask me questions about why I dress in the way I do, I just smile and tell them "this is my personal way of thanking God that He created me a woman."

    I only wear skirts that cover my calf, and I don't wear tight or low cut clothing, but I also think it is not right to judge people for standards that God has not asked them to hold.

  169. #169
    Inga said on August 23, 2006 | Reply

    I love love LOVE my body. I am not ashamed to be woman with womanly attributes. we were made in his image, THE IMAGE OF GOD!! what's wrong is that our society has made the human body (which i remind you was made in the image ofGod) a sex object and not the pure art, beauty, and functioning temple God has intented it to be. let's stop thinking of a woman's body as merely a "sex object" for her husband or for men in general and start seeing our bodies as tributes to God's wonderful and beautiful design! WE need to change our thinking and maybe then, just maybe, we might come close to the true source of immodesty and stop pretending with faulty pretense that bodies are to blame for our problems regarding this issue.

  170. #170
    Sarah Jacobs said on August 26, 2006 | Reply

    I am 22, and used to be home-schooled, and wear mid-thigh length shorts and a short-sleeved t-shirt over a one-piece to go swimming. It's comfortable, and doesn't hold me back in the water (I know because I have also used ordinary swimming costumes).

    But (as lots of others have also said), rather than arguing over standards like these, it's better to be tolerant of what other people want to wear--whether their choice is more modest than yours, or less.

  171. #171
    Marthie Peden said on August 27, 2006 | Reply

    I am glad you love to be a woman Inga, and I agree with you that we are wonderfully made by God in His image and should not be ashamed of our bodies. and that we are not sex objects. The problem is not what we girls think of ourselves but the fallen human nature out there. After the fall in the garden of Eden, men can not help to notice our bare flesh and it is a true struggle for them. As christian girls it is our responsibility to not tempt another woman's husband or a young man who will choose a bride one day. That is what God ask us to do, to be true to Him, true to ourselves and true to our fellow men.

    Have you ever experienced the specialness of being only one man's and knowing that your husband has been the only one who has ever gazed at your body and appreciate you? Would you rather have a man's respect for you increase by noticing your modest way that edifies him or would you rather be the playful, lustful, dishonoring object of a guy's thoughts you do not know?

    You know what my husband calls the swim wear of today? Glorified underwear!

    If you do not wish to wear this paticular swimsuit, then do not critisize others. You are hurting yourself. Sounds like you are a christian, then read Lev 10:10 God asks us to distinguish between the holy and the common. Know that your wonderfull body is holy, to God a temple of the Holy Spirit and holy for that one man that will appreciate you. I would much rather encourage pure thoughts wouldn't you?

    You have much to learn, like I had to. I hope you see the light soon and also those who critisize modesty.

    I like to commend those who strife to provide an alternative.

  172. #172
    mimi mom said on September 4, 2006 | Reply

    I couldnot care less than I do if a woman is so afraid of her shadow that hse wears this crazy contraption...but it scares me that there are people in the world who thing EVERY woman shoudl wear one. By the way.....where are the modest MEN'S swimsuit???? [Edited out comment re men's swimsuits - DWD]

  173. #173
    T.J. said on September 8, 2006 | Reply

    Mimi mom & Luke: the reason these are "only offered for women" is not because of a double standard, but because that is where the need for merchandise is. It is much harder for women to find non-skanky clothes to swim in (or in general, really) than it is for men. If anything, the double standard is in the retail industry. My husband can go in a store and come out with something appropriate in 15 minutes. It takes me weeks and weeks and usually I just give up and borrow a pair of his board shorts.

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    CT said on September 14, 2006 | Reply

    I just want to say that i fully agree with Marthie Peden and thank you for the very true comments. it is a joy to hear a woman like yourself speak!

  175. #175
    Douglas said on September 15, 2006 | Reply

    Kudos on the modest swimwear! If I get married and have daughters, I'll shop at that site. The beauty of modest woman appeals to the senses, but moreso to the soul, and that is where true beauty is found.

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    JMR said on September 21, 2006 | Reply

    I think what is not being commented on is the fact that too prude of so called Christian values, which are skewed for each person to both extreams is the fact that as American we are so ashamed of the human body. I by no means think we need to walk around naked or even in a thong but to have blanket shame for the one thing every human has in common in nonsense. Many people on the beach are in a body fitting one piece and it draws no increased attention to anyone else in a one piece. It has become far too common for frightened Christian conservatives to think men are just sick leacherous creatures ogling every woman who shows a bit on ankle. I'm pretty confident that most of the postings who are modest Christians would think them selves furthers from Musilm society but who is the only other religious group who feels this same way.

    http://www.jelbab.com/Swim-Suit.asp

    all you guys are missing is the head cover.

  177. #177
    Alicia said on October 17, 2006 | Reply

    If you like the swimsuit wear the freakin' thing! If you don't like it, don't wear it! Hey guess what? You don't have to!!!!!!!!! How funny is that??!? And you also should realize that people are not going to change their opinion on pretty much anything by reading your opinion on a freaking website. Most ppl just read it cuz they are bored. That is pretty much why I am on this website in the first place. Anyways......please stop preaching to everyone about "your beliefs"!!! Cuz trust me, most ppl could care less!

  178. #178
    Bellinda said on October 17, 2006 | Reply

    i'm a 14 yr old christain girl, i am chastised and do not want the attention of boys. I dress very modestly, especially for church. I only wear dresses that cover my arms and are collared and knee length, i also wear knee high socks and flat mary jane shoes. Though i had very long blond hair that used to make boys weak for me and they in turn tried to lead me into sin. My friend have cut my hair off now and i wear it short as possible and my ears stick out and attract attention, i was very unhappy about this for a while but i have since preyed and learned that my vainity was a sin and that my big ears a blessing in humility. I no longer have boy problems and can be pure servant of God. I think the swim suit are good and would recommend modest hair as well.

  179. #179
    Joy said on October 18, 2006 | Reply

    OK first of all Bellinda, there is nothing wrong with wanting attention from boys. Every girls wants attention from the opposite sex wether you admit it or not. And the fact that boys tried to "lead you into sin" because of your long blonde hair does not mean you should cut off your hair!!!! If they tried to "lead you into sin" then why are you even around guys like that???!!! It is not always you who has the problem! There are perverted guys out there. Basically you just stay away from them! You can show off your beauty with out drawing the wrong kind of attention! I am 15 and getting attention from the opposite sex is very nice. And I don't mean it is nice to have random guys on the street stare at you. My guy friends are all christians and they know how to treat a lady. Those are the kind of guys I like to get "attention" from. Not the wrong kind of attention. I don't want the kind of attention that comes from dressing like a slut. Guys and girls will start to be attracted to the opposite sex at a certain point. Its just a fact. Why do you think people get married??! If you hide away freaking out if a guy looks at you how do you think you are gonna get married?! There should be a healthy interaction between guys and girls from a young age so that its not wierd when you all of a sudden talk to a guy when you are in college! Trust me there are ways to have healthy interaction with guys and also have fun at the same time!!!

  180. #180
    Maria said on November 14, 2006 | Reply

    This website is hysterical!!! As far as my opinion, well, what could I possibly say that has not allready been said? So I'll simply say this: Anyone who can't get a few good laughs out of reading this, is probably at one unhealthy extreme or the other.

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    Shakila said on November 16, 2006 | Reply

    I would like to thank the people of this website for putting this up, i have been searching for a while for modest swimwear and you have answered my prayers! Being a Muslim i have eaxctly the same problems mentioned here so i would just like to give a heartfelt thanks to you guys! i finally can swim without worrying about everything showing.

  182. #182
    KF said on November 22, 2006 | Reply

    So many things have been said about this site, this swimwear, this is surely going to be redundant. Not only that, I imagine not too many people will actually read this far down the page!

    First, to those who are Muslims, the company Ahiida (http://www.ahiida.com/) makes swimsuits and activewear designed specifically for Muslim women. Best of all, they are even attractive!

    My problem with these suits is of course, the extremes. Someone else pointed out that there are many other sites that carry very modest swimwear (www.modest-swimwear.net www.ohanaswimwear.com/index.php www.swimmodest.com). The difference between those and these is that the ones I just listed are a bit less extreme - they are slightly form-fitting, but I see very little wrong with that. Sweaters, dresses, etc. can be very modest while not looking like bags. These suits strike me as going a step past modesty - they are almost trying to make you look unattractive! Why would you do this? A muslim woman, even when fully covered by the hijab looks beautiful. Women look beautiful when wearing something that is flattering, but looking good does not equate to immodesty. Certainly there should be no judging of people who wear these swim suits, but likewise, someone who wears a modest but attractive suit should not be judged by those who wear these suits, which seems to be the tone of many other posts here. If you own one of these suits and think it is wonderful, more power to you, but please don't judge those of us who wouldn't be willing to wear this suit simply for its modesty because it does honestly lack style. There are many other options out there that are just as modest, but still stylish and beautiful!

  183. #183
    allie said on December 14, 2006 | Reply

    I am a christian. I think modesty is a great thing. but i still like my bikinis.

  184. #184
    Hannah 15 said on December 16, 2006 | Reply

    I'm 15 i'm a christian i think these suits r great for any girl who wants to wear them and i'm not sorry one bit if "SOMEONE" doesn't like it if the world was all like that then it would stink people need to stand up for what they believe all my friends are looking for suits and i think this is great their are very few of these kind of sights i love all of them thanks for being here to make them love Hannah 15 and go'in on for the lord !!!!!!!!!~~~~~~

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    SARA HEDGES said on December 20, 2006 | Reply

    MY NAME IS SARA. I'M ONLY 12 BUT I LOVE MODESTY. IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP YOUR MODESTY. I DO NOT HAVE THIS KIND OF BATHING SUIT BUT I DO WEAR A WHOLE PIECE BATHING SUIT AND A SKIRT(LONG SKIRT). I HAVE NOT WORE A ONE PIECE EVER SENCE I WAS ABOUT 8 AND I DIDN'T GO TO CHURCH.thank you for this awesome website and merry CHRISTmas. stay modest for JESUS.

  186. #186
    kate said on December 24, 2006 | Reply

    wow. the amount of intimatly personal reaction generated by a sarcastic swimwear post is intriguing. every since i was a 12-year old girl with a more developed "figure" i was chastisied for my curves, and told that the only way I wasn't leading men in lustfull thoughts was if I didn't have boobs, but since i do then hide it. talk about feeling self concious for the way i was created in God's image. oooh snap, people didn't think of that. I think the issue of "modesty" is brought up in the entirely wrong fashion (no pun intended) for the most part, and am generally offended when people give me judgemental opinions whenever I don't where a potatoe sack ovre my body. i still look at these swimsuits and laugh.
    i think there is a bit of over-exposure with the knee-caps in those pictures though, practically indecent. I look like a jerk for posting on Christmas Eve. funny

  187. #187
    Susan said on December 27, 2006 | Reply

    I'm 26 and heavyset, with a large rear and chest. I would like to get a suit like this, partially for the sake of modesty, but also because I have never, since hitting puberty (when my waif-like figure expanded quickly to follow my genetic heritage), felt really comfortable going to the pool in the one-piece suits you find in stores. You have to search and search to find one with legs that aren't super-high-cut or super-low-cut. I used to have one from Penningtons I really liked that covered high up the back and front and low on the legs, but it was still skin-tight. The black material slimmed my torso a little, but really made my ample, white (I don't tan, I burn) upper arms and thighs stand out in contrast. I was never happy when out of the water wearing one of these suits and often got my towel all wet by bringing it to the poolside so as to uncover at the last possible moment. And hey, what no one (that I've seen; I've skimmed a fair bit in reading former posts) has pointed out yet: no shaving the underarms or 'bikini area' for these suits!!! Yay!!!

  188. #188
    Alice said on December 31, 2006 | Reply

    this swimsuit in no way makes a female look attractive. God made us in His image and we should try and make ourselves look put together, attractive, and modest at the same time. this swimsuit covers the modest part and thats about it. i agree with kate. (she posted on christmas eve) i think many girls are told from the time they start filling out that they are causing the opposite sex to stumble. women are made with curves! get over it. men are supposed to be attracted to women. i don't think any guy would want to get married to some slob who could care less about how she looks as long as its modest. being modest is not the only important thing! some ppl think that if it makes you look pretty then you shouldn't wear it. looking pretty will attract the opposite sex. its a just a fact. stop trying to figure out ways to look ugly! it is really discouraging to teenage girls when their parents are never letting them look pretty in their own eyes. i am 15 and know what it feels like. my parents are not like that thankfully. but i know girls who do have parents like that. it is sooo frustrating when all you hear is "we know best". yes you might be the parent but that doesn't ever give you the right to be discouraging. it is very immportant to girls how they look. and i know all of you are thinking that that is vanity. it's not! it is not a bad thing to want to look attractive. and there should be a place where both the parent and the child are happy. it shouldn't be a dictatorship! if the point of having kids is to be able to tell them what to do, i don't want any. don't be supprised when your daughters don't share stuff with you. we want to talk to someone who respects us for who we are. you as the parent have to be respected for your position. but we also want to be respected as a person. it shouldn't be a slave/master relationship. we want a friend that we can share stuff with, not a "superior"!

  189. Hello modesty loving swimmers. I have a question for you about this controversial subject. What is your definition of modesty? I would love to know, because as an avid water polo player I have to wear what you might consider unwholesome swimsuits in order to play to the best of my ability.

  190. #190
    Amelia said on January 13, 2007 | Reply

    After viewing all of the sites (for modest swimwear) mentioned, Ohana Swimwear takes the prize.
    Their suits are modest, practical, and stylish.

  191. #191
    Jesse said on January 18, 2007 | Reply

    When i was a boy in L.A. in the Fifties, I went to the beach all the time, and was present when the two-piece bathing suit came in. Some of the two-piece suits the girls wore were pretty modest -- they may have revealed the back and midriff, but covered more of the legs and top than the typical one-piece suit. I think most boys, who were looking for an erotic thrill, were much more entranced by a one-piece suit that was a little loose at the top, or by a suit that was form-fitting below the waist.

    But really, once boys and men get used to even the skimpiest bikinis, or (as in europe) to women who only wear bottoms at the beach, the exposure of all that flesh is no longer a big deal. What is a big deal is being physically close to a girl who likes you, and that would be the same if she was wearing one of those modest swimsuits.

    The real tradition, of course, was that boys and men swam naked, and girls and women were not around. Girls and women, if they bathed at all, did so with no men around, and I think wore a loose-fitting garment for modesty.

  192. #192
    Meridith said on January 20, 2007 | Reply

    I'm 34, and have trouble finding modest bathing suits. This seems like a good option, even if it's not really my sort of thing! I'm one of those crazy people who would really like an Edwardian Era (1900-1920) style suit in modern fabric - something that dries rapidly and allows for freedom of movement, while providing even MORE coverage than these suits do (I have very fair skin, and am prone to severe sunburn even - or especially, as I have discovered! - with sunscreen.)
    I don't like the trends I've seen - I agree that it's a woman's right to make her own decisions about apparal, but I wish these modern women understood that it's not just about "inflaming the lust" or "glorifying God" - it's also about self-respect.
    I have no problem with two-piece, bikini, etc. suits, BUT there are modest and, more importantly, FLATTERING options within that genre that women seem to overlook! Have enough respect for yourself to consider the image you present when wearing an unflattering or too-small (be it size or cut) item of apparal - ANY apparal!

  193. #193
    Alice4Jesus said on January 22, 2007 | Reply

    Praise the Lord!!! I'm so thankful to hear my sisters taking a stand for modesty. We are a light of the world and salt of the earth. Let us continue to shine brightly that we may be a witness of Jesus Christ through our conversation and dress. We know men are excited by sight it's in their nature. It's placed in them by God. So we as sisters must help our brothers. LET'S KEEP STANDING!!! People are going to mock us that's what did to our Saviour. SO COUNT IT AS AN HONOR NOT SHAME!!!

  194. #194
    mira said on January 25, 2007 | Reply

    i came across this blog while shopping for modest swimwear. regarding personal taste: i think there are more beautiful swimsuits than these that are available...

    http://www.modest-swimwear.net/
    http://www.swimmodest.com/
    http://www.ohanaswimwear.com/

    these swimsuits have more simple, classic lines; the ones pictured in Wholesomewear seem "fussy" to me. (i don't like ruffles, collars, or the "pinafore" look.)

    that said, i also appreciate the swimwear made to meet islamic standards of modesty. i do not feel the need to cover my head, but i am most comfortable (outside my home or in the presence of men outside my family) when my arms and legs are also covered. i was born and raised in a muslim country, so this seems most natural to me.

    to the more strongly opinionated christians who have posted: your lack of grace for one another does not glorify your God or show good testimony for your faith. i encourage you to "speak" with gentleness and respect...

  195. #195
    Don said on January 25, 2007 | Reply

    mira wrote: "to the more strongly opinionated christians who have posted: your lack of grace for one another does not glorify your God or show good testimony for your faith. i encourage you to "speak" with gentleness and respect..."

    Wow...I'm almost speechless. Now you technically don't say you're Muslim but you talk about Christians and "their" God, state that you "appreciate...islamic standards" and that you were "born and raised in a muslim country" so I'm going to go out on a limb and assume you're Muslim particularly in light of your last little paragraph. (If you are not Muslim, congratulations on escaping "a muslim country" where speaking out about their religion might get you killed.)

    Given the events occurring in the world today, who the hell are you to criticize Christians for acts which "do not glorify [their] God"?!?!?! Get your own house in order before you start being critical of others and how they practice or fail to practice their religion. The above posters tapped a few letters on a keyboard and spilled a few ones and zeros across the web while the radical Islamofascists of your own religion saw off people's heads, intentionally blow up children and spill real blood across the world while shouting "Allahu Akbar" (God is great!). And your response is to point at the above Christians and accuse them of not glorifying their God, not showing good testimony for their faith and speaking with gentleness and respect?!?!? Wow!!!

    I suggest you need to check out this site about how some practitioners of The Religion of Peace glorify their God and evidence their gentle and respectful ways.

  196. #196
    SC4JC said on January 26, 2007 | Reply

    i believe that modesty has alot to do with attitude. if you act flirty and sexual even if you are in modest attire, you are not being modest. it also has to do with how you pick out clothes. do you think, oh that is a nice sweater, or, that is pretty, or do you think, that will be hot, or, this hugs my curves nicely. if you think the second two, you are not dressing or thinking modestly. you shouldn't want to look hot or sexy, you should want to look nice(after all, your body is a temple unto the lord-you don't want to represent God and your church looking like a slob) and not draw attention to your body.

  197. #197
    mira said on January 26, 2007 | Reply

    don,

    my mention of being born and raised in a muslim country was to demonstrate a shared cultural desire for modesty. i also believed that a majority of these commenters, as confessing christians, would recognise and agree with my reference to 1 peter 3v15-16.

    in the eyes of God, typing words to mock or judge another person harshly *is* an equal sin to murder. we all fall short of His glory, so there is no need to compare historical notes for all the violences done in the name of islam and christendom alike over the centuries. thank God: we are saved by grace alone. Jesus changes our hearts to dismiss "an eye for an eye" and embrace "love your enemies, do good to those who hate you".

    it was not my intent to offend, confuse, or mislead you; please forgive me for having done these things. perhaps we -- as 2 humans from different cultural up-bringings -- can all learn a little from each other and have grace for one another, as well.

    to clarify: i am a christian. i am married to an american man who shares my christian love for our muslim family and friends in my country of birth. for this reason, we do not escape my home country; we have returned there in order to minister on behalf of Christ.

  198. #198
    Don said on January 26, 2007 | Reply

    I accept the fact that you are a Christian the possibility of which I left open. Still, I could not leave your comment alone. I felt it merited either editing/deleting which I am loath to do and very rarely ever do, or a response. I'll leave it to the reader as to whether my assumption, with qualifications, that you were a Muslim was warranted.

    As to how you can "appreciate...islamic standards" as evidenced not by an average American Muslim, which I could understand, but as evidenced in a Muslim country where you were born and raised, all I can say is that you are obviously familiar with a Mulslim country that I am not. Perhaps such a nation could get the word out to its neighbors how to behave in a civilized world in the 21 century.

    I agree "in the eyes of God" all sin is equal. But, I'm not God and I've never met or heard of anyone who when questioned, "Would you like me to talk bad about you and your family or just cut everyone's heads off?" respond with, "It doesn't matter...it's all equal." There is NO moral equivalence. No sane person can say that the above typers share any meaningful characteristic with radical Islamofascists who consider everyone outside their ignorant fanatical belief system equivalent to pigs and apes and worthy of death.

    As to your comment that, "there is no need to compare historical notes for all the violences done in the name of islam and christendom alike over the centuries, that is only the opinion of people who are apologists for and enablers of the death and destruction wrought by today's radical Islam. You cannot justify, excuse, or otherwise downplay behavior today based on other peoples' behavior hundreds of years ago. If that were the standard, violence, oppression and ignorance would always and forever be acceptable. It is the 21st century, everyone must be judged by 21st century standards.

    American Blacks don't get to enslave whites because they were enslaved 150 years ago. Jews don't get a free pass to kill as many Germans as they can because of what happened 60 years ago. Likewise, radical Muslims don't get to be mouth-frothing-lunatics because they feel they were slighted hundreds of years ago. Perhaps though, I'm reading you wrong, although I think not. I agree there is no need to compare Islam and Christianity over the centuries, but THERE IS a need to compare the two TODAY.

    As to your request for forgiveness from me, I request the same from you. I know my tone is, at best, argumentative, but hey, it's my website, I get some leeway.

    And finally, as to your statement regarding the Muslim nation where you were born and raised and that "we have returned there in order to minister on behalf of Christ, you and your family are truly in my prayers as I am sure you know full well that openly ministering about Christ in any Mulslim nation literally puts your life at serious risk. In fact, not ministering and just being a professed Christian in a Muslim nation is often not safe.

    Finally, if how Christian and Jewish nations and their people treat Muslims versus how Muslim nations and their people treat Christians and Jews doesn't clearly differentiate between the two religions and its parishioners, then nothing will.

  199. #199
    Wondermima said on January 26, 2007 | Reply

    Don,
    I am interested in how you would practically apply
    "love your enemies, do good to those who hate you", in reference to Muslims... can you expound on that?

    I wonder about the point you make about how we differentiate between our two religions... It is not how we treat people that differentiates it, but the Grace of God. As has been mentioned, historically at times people who claim Christ have treated other in abominable ways. Even then, this did not invalidate the Christian Faith. Our Faith is not diifferentiated from Islam by how we behave, but by what Christ did for us on the cross. The Muslims have no such savior.
    On another topic, I have Muslim friends who have no interest in bombing or sawing peoples heads off, they just want to live in peace and raise their family. I know, you won't see that on the media. We enjoy their company and appreciate that the things that we DO have in common open often open a door to talk about Christs atonement.

  200. #200
    Don said on January 27, 2007 | Reply

    Wondermima/mira, let me respond to your last paragraph first.

    I have been very careful to be clear that my criticisms are directed only to "radical" Muslims or the small percentage of Muslims that qualify as Islamofascists. I have never directed my comments towards all Muslims. And, I too have had close friends who are Muslims. In fact, if the world is ever to be a peaceful place, it will likely be as the result of peaceful and rational Muslims reigning in the radical element of their religion.

    Now as to your question: "I am interested in how you would practically apply "love your enemies, do good to those who hate you", in reference to Muslims... can you expound on that?" While my God wants me to love my neighbor, He doesn't want me to be an idiot and walk into cannon fire with my arms outstretched proclaiming, "I love you."

    Let's take an extreme example: If someone has a million children lined up and is going down the row shooting them all in the head, I believe God wants us to stop that person with the least amount of force necessary and if nothing works but blowing that person away then so be it. God does not want us sitting around talking about how much we love the killer while he shoots children as fast as he can pull the trigger and reload. I resolve the alleged conflict between love your enemy and blowing the scum away by praying for his sole.

    Just because we are called upon to love our enemy does not mean we do not hold them accountable. If my enemy is committing atrocities then I am called on the help stop that. I do no wish my enemy to suffer and I do not judge my enemy's sole, but I believe it is well within the confines of my faith to try and stop evil.

    Imagine a perfect little Christian world where everyone loves everyone else and no one would think of raising a hand against another. And then along comes a Hitler type person whose throwing people in ovens and mass graves as fast as he and his armies can. Should the world stand around professing their love of this person or take up arms to stop him?

    It is radical Islam's express objective not to coexist with the rest of the world but, instead, to take over the world and covert or kill everyone who is not a Muslim. We can stop it now while it is a small problem or we can wait until it is either too late or a huge problem. If you are worried about people dying than something needs to be done now.

    Finally, as to your comment that, "Our Faith is not differentiated from Islam by how we behave, but by what Christ did for us on the cross." You are absolutely right, that the primary and heart of the difference is Christ's death for our sins. However, as the result of that, Christianity manifests itself in many different ways from Islam including, "how we behave."

    Take for example a short person and a really tall person. The difference is objectively just one thing their height. But, as a result, the tall person behaves differently such as ducking under objects more often. The act of ducking is the not the heart of their difference but, rather, a manifestation of their difference. The same with Christianity, the heart of our difference manifests itself in different behavior.

  201. #201
    brenda said on February 2, 2007 | Reply

    Wow. This is so out of control.
    These swimsuits show the calves and ankles! Which (showing one's ankles), was once thought to be VERY immodest for a girl to do. (Victorian era, etc). Cultural definitions of "modesty" may change over time, but I'm pretty sure God's definition does not!

    And no matter what you wear, some pervert will manage to lear at you, if that is their intent. If their eye is causing them to sin they should "gouge it out" (saith the bible), not place blame instead on the beautiful creation that God hath made. If you can't look at the bare human form without sin, thats a bigger issue than a piece of clothing will fix. I would urge you to consider the body as God does, the height of his glorious creation, created in his image.

    Modesty is a quality of the heart, not what one wears (or does not wear).


    Brooke
    (a Christian, nudist, and virgin of 27 years)

  202. #202
    SC4JC said on February 6, 2007 | Reply

    yes, the human body is a glorious and beautiful thing, created in God's image, but he did command us to dress it modestly-1 tim 2:9

  203. #203
    brenda said on February 7, 2007 | Reply

    Last that I checked, in Jesus' day they baptized in the nude.

  204. #204
    Vanessa said on February 12, 2007 | Reply

    Can someone explain to me WHY god commanded you guys to keep your bodies covered up and be modest? Why shouldn't we enjoy one another's bodies and beauty? Why do do you have to pretend your body doesn't exist, and that only your "soul" does, when you know it's not true. Every person has sexual desires and shutting those desires down or trying to is not healthy, mentally or physically. People are going to stare at you one way or another, particularly in these ridiculous suits.

  205. #205
    Shaquita said on February 12, 2007 | Reply

    I am so happy I found this website! I am sick of swimming in jeans..no fun:( I realized that there are other people that feel the same way as me. I was so excited. I am so excited that i do not have to expose my body to the perverted boys on the beach. Now that i finally found a swimsuit that flatters my unique rectangle shape, I will have a boost of confidence. To all you who do not like this website..i hope you enjoy the fire and brimstone!!!!!

  206. #206
    Cindy said on February 18, 2007 | Reply

    The poor girls would drown in these type of bathing costumes.

  207. #207
    Alicia said on February 19, 2007 | Reply

    Shaquita-

    I am glad you found so much happiness in finding this website. I can not believe what you said though! "To all those who do not like this website...i hope you enjoy the fire and brimstone!!!!!" I am asumming you are a Christian. Since when do you get to judge other people??? You are not God!!! You have no clue who is going to heaven or hell! Only God determines that! The Bible says not to judge others because with that same judgment you will also be judged. (Matthew 7:1) . Just because some people would not wear these swimsuits does not mean they are going to hell! That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard! Can you tell me where in the Bible it says to like this website or you are going to hell??? You should think about what you say before you say it! You cannot prove Biblically that if people don't like this website they are going to hell! I am still shocked that you even said that! You can only know where you are going when you die!

  208. #208
    Michael said on February 20, 2007 | Reply

    I guess I'm really surprised. If you're covering the body because it's sacred, why aren't you covering the entire body? Is the face less sacred than what you've covered? Are the hands, and arms, and feet, and lower legs, and neck less sacred?

    If you truly believe you're covering the body because it's sacred, then I would suggest you have to cover the entire body because the entire body is either sacred or it's not. I don't think you can say that only certain body parts are sacred and others aren't, can you? Or, are you just buying into what society considers to be "sacred"? What's the truth of the matter?

    Further, if you're covering the body because you want to cover the "sexual" body parts so as not to "tempt" the poor men who have no control over their thoughts, again, why aren't you covering the entire body? Are you not aware that for most men the most sexually attractive part of a woman is her face? Are you not aware that people never use just their genitals to have sex, but rather use their entire body when making love? For example, are you not aware that people use their hands and lips far more than any other part of the body when making love? Are you not aware that there are absolutely no primary sexual body parts that are exposed when a person is naked? If you're trying to cover the "sexual" body parts, then again wouldn't you have to cover the entire body because the entire body becomes sexual when 2 people are making love? What's the truth of the matter?

    In addition, are you not aware that the viewer is totally responsible for their own thoughts, not the viewee? Are you not aware that if the viewer should so choose, he can think inappropriate thoughts about you regardless of what you wear? And wouldn't you agree that we should have such purity of thought that we should be able to look upon a beautiful naked woman (or man, for that matter) and have no difficulty maintaining that purity of thought? After all, can't God do that? And aren't we all trying to become like God? It seems to me that you're using clothing as a substitute for a pure heart and mind.

    Finally, aren't you aware that what you're doing is exactly what the pornography and sex industries want you to do so they can continue to thrive and grow? I mean think about it: what conditions have to exist for the pornography and sex industries to exist and thrive?

    First, we have to identify certain body parts as being sexual all the time. Second, we have to make sure we cover those body parts all the time. Third, we have to create fear about uncovering those body parts. We have to make it forbidden to both uncover those body parts for others to see as well as to view those uncovered body parts, all so we can maximize the curiosity factor. Finally, we then can charge money to uncover those body parts. What a great way to exploit people and make money!

    OK, I'll throw out one more thing that I'm sure you haven't really considered: Let's go back to the dark ages, when Satan ruled (after all, there's a reason it's called the Dark Ages, isn't there?). If the body is sacred and therefore should be covered up at all costs, as you suggest, what were the clothing styles like back then? Wouldn't it be reasonable to conclude that if it's true that the body is sacred and should be covered up, this would be a period of immense decadence with people running around naked and committing all kinds of wickedness? Yet, what's the truth of the matter?

    It was during the Dark Ages that the people were convinced that the body was evil and therefore should be covered at all costs. It was during this period that the people wore the most clothes ever in the history of mankind. Layer upon layer of clothes covering all but the face. They even went so far as to cover piano legs so as not to tempt the poor, weak men.

    Later, we gained a new understanding of the sacredness of the body and dispelled the error that the body is evil. Interestingly, now people claimed that the body is sacred and should be covered at all costs. That belief has been carried forth to our day. The question is this: which is the truth -- "the body is evil and should be covered?"; or, "the body is sacred and should be covered?"

    Both ideas can't be true. So, which is it? If you say that the true idea is that the body is sacred and should be covered, then in the Dark Ages why didn't Satan convince the people to run around naked all the time? Why instead did the people actually wear the most clothes? Isn't entirely possible that both ideas are false?

    For me, I believe the body is sacred, and that that sacredness is maintained by purity of thought and belief, not by clothing or any other artificial form of "righteousness." I would suggest we start focusing on the real core of the issue (purity of heart and mind, which is where real modesty resides) rather than using substitutes, like clothing.

    But that's just me.

  209. #209
    Elton Robb said on February 20, 2007 | Reply

    "I think many of you are missing the point. We women cause men to sin (lust) when we wear revealing clothing."

    What? You cause me to sin? That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life.

    I'm a man, and I'm working on governing myself. So far, I've gotten to the point where I can control my hormone response. You are missing the point. Women and what they wear do not cause men to sin (lust), it is how we choose to personally respond to what you wear that causes us to lust.

    If what you said is true, then half of all Americans do not have the right to be Free or to pursue Happiness as the Declaration of Independence guaratees.
    :)

  210. #210
    SC4JC said on February 20, 2007 | Reply

    i am sure that Shaquita meant that to those that are rejecting the idea of modesty and not admitting that the bible is truth- enjoy the fire and brimstone. That is all there will be if you reject the bible and god-if you are not saved, you will be going to hell- modesty or not!!!!!

  211. #211
    sheila said on February 20, 2007 | Reply

    umm here is a website with ACTUAL clothing and not some freaky looking outfit that will scare people away and leave them wondering if you are polygamist. http://modbeclothing.com/

  212. #212
    Michelle said on February 22, 2007 | Reply

    I am very surprised by what I have read here today. Many of the responses that I have read are very childish and very liberal if I may say so. Whether men choose to admit to themselves or not, women would be causing them to lust by showing off their private body parts. As a woman, I do not want any man, other than my husband, to see my body in that way and would not put myself in the position for a man to make the choice of whether or not he "chooses" to lust after me.

    While I may not personally prefer to wear the swimsuits that the named site has created, I am proud that there is a Godly person (or persons) out there that makes these swimsuits for others that would like to keep their bodies private. Thank you. While many people women or men do not care about seeing women running around the beach in their underwear- as I do agree that a bathing suit is no different than your undergarments, and some bathing suits are even more revealing- I do care and am glad to see the initiative to get women to put some clothes on. :) The Bible says that women are to dress modestly, and I am sorry, but skin tight bathing suits and bikinis are not modest when you can see all the things a women should be covering in public.

    Sadly, women today feel that they need to show off their bodies to get some attention- and yes that is all it is for is attention. Sadly, it seems that many of the comments I have read from men seem to be to discourage the covering of women, I wonder why... hmmm, could it be because they want the chance to have a peek?

  213. #213
    Jennifer said on February 22, 2007 | Reply

    Here is another website with a variety on modest clothing and swim suits www.sewmodest.org

  214. #214
    mi mi said on February 25, 2007 | Reply

    bible 1, women 0. surprise surprise, men aren't expected to cover up.

    nice to know god loves us and all, what with everybody being equal. but if you're a woman and you wear a bikini, you're going to burn in hell. shame on you! god loves you. of course.

    hah.

  215. #215
    Don said on February 25, 2007 | Reply

    mi mi 0, logic 1,

    1) men are expected to also be modest...no marble bags please.

    2) men are not expected to cover up in the exact same manner as women because...liberals stop reading here lest your head explode...men and women are different,

    3) yes, God loves women who dress modest, women who wear bikinis and also women who make sarcastic poorly thought out comments.

  216. #216
    Alex said on February 25, 2007 | Reply

    People, GET A LIFE!!!!
    This website was created for people who were looking for modest swimwear, THAT"S IT!!! If you don't like the styles that are shown here, look for a website that has what you want. Why waste your time offending people because of their taste and sense of style? Worry about your own style!!! Like I said before, GET A LIFE!!!!!!!

  217. #217
    DEE said on March 2, 2007 | Reply

    Thanks soooo much for this website. I have been looking for a long time for a modest swimsuit. We may be going on a cruise for a family reunion in the fall and this will be perfect for us as we don't wear immodest clothing in public places. This is a big blessing to us I will be sharing your site with many other friends who have the same convictions. Before I became a Christian I would wear just about anything but God (not man) has shown me through His word that this is inappropriate for me. Thank you for making these swimsuits available. God bless your business.

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    Amanda said on March 5, 2007 | Reply

    It is amazing how many differing opinions there are out there.....but......It really comes down to this......SWIMSUITS are NOT the important thing. It's just like the Devil to get us to focus on something as menial as swimwear. Your walk with God is..........and if your not one of his, you cannot walk with Him. He loves us ALL. He is "not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance" "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotton Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life"(John 3:16).

    All a person needs to do is realize their sin and their need for Jesus "If we confess our sins he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins" , Repent from our sins, and Ask the Lord to save us!

    THEN, after that.................the Bible says "Work out your OWN salvation with fear and trembling" In other words, You listen to God and HE will tell you what he wants you do to! One day He may talk to you about modesty....If he says you shouldn't wear bikinis, then listen! If he doesn't then don't worry about it, just worry about serving God who LOVES us with a GREAT love!!!!!!

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    Georgia Dee said on March 7, 2007 | Reply

    Well to be honest all of you make your country look like it has come nowhere since the puritans, you should really find somthing more productive with your time. Who really cares about having a bit of flesh on show. Are you not proud of what God gave you?

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    Don said on March 7, 2007 | Reply

    Georgia Dee,

    Well to be honest all of you make your country look like it has come nowhere since the puritans

    You say like it's a bad thing. Oh, that we were only more like the Puritans. All that strays from them is not necessarily a good thing.

    you should really find somthing more productive with your time

    Amen. But, we are all entitled to hobbies. You know like criticising others for not being more productive with their time.

    Who really cares about having a bit of flesh on show

    Ummm...everyone is one way or another.

    Are you not proud of what God gave you?

    God also gave us free will and I'm not so proud of what people, including myself, do with that. For a more explicit example, God gave us the ability to kill each other, not so proud of everyone's use of this. Hey, look at me I have free will...show a little restraint. Hey, look at me and the body God gave me...same thing, show a little restraint.

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    Cindy said on March 9, 2007 | Reply

    I absolutely LOVE these swim suits! I want to get one, but I am due to have another baby in August, and they don't sell maternity suits. :(

    I have been looking all over the net for a couple of years for something like this. I don't know why I hadn't found it before! I love that it has a colorful bodysuit under the black looser-fitting piece, but it is still one piece. It looks very comfortable. Those who don't care about modesty probably wouldn't understand, but I am a very modest person, and this is just what I've been looking for!

    Men are visual creatures by nature, so some might stare anyway (regardless of how modest any kind of clothing is), but I certainly don't want to give anyone MORE reason to stare by showing more skin and cleavage! I don't care if they stare because they think my swim suit is weird, at least I'll be modest! And I certainly don't want some pervert staring at my daughter either!

    These are great, thank you!

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    Annie said on March 10, 2007 | Reply

    I am a 15 year old Christian. I'd just like to say that I was laughing when I first encountered this site. The whole thing seemes so rediculous to me, making a mountian out of a molehill. And, infact come to think of it, shrouding youself in all that cloth is maing a mountain...

    There is such thing as 'first impressions', infact one of the stages of love is indeed 'PHYSICAL ATTRACTION'. How else do you catch a persons eye, what makes them want to come and talk to you? You have to look nice, and appealing. True, sexy and cute can be nice, however heart surgery tops, and upper thigh surgery pants or skirts, will not attract the right type of attention either. There is a happy medium.

    It is how you behave and appear to others that can make 'immodest' or modest'. It is in how you conduct yourself. I have often seen people covered from neck to ankle (maxi-dresses anyone?) and they can still look..mm, pardon the word, sluttish. They achieve this through a provoative shake of the hips, head, and a self-counscious gaze.

    Showing A BIT of skin is healthy, and builds healthy relatioships. It builds trust between people; acceptance for WHO you are, regardeless of physical appearance although it IS there.

    How about hugging a man. Or a man huggin a woman. Oh dear, their curvy (or not so curvy) BREASTS, may touch him. If this man is indeed the person you should be hugging, he will only be aware of your presence, your warthm , the security that you transmit via physical contact.

    Don't take things too far. That's all. I'm feeling frustrated right now. All these extremists. One day I will give my heart, mind, and body to another man. However, I havn't yet found that person (at 15..) and when I do, I will continue to dress attractively.

    To me it shows maturity to be comfortable in exposing some of your nature in what you wear. It's a statement; "This is me", this shows you what I think of myself. It reveals your personality, part of the essnce of who YOU are. Just don't think about it too much, there is no need to cause a storm in a teacup. Behave with propriety. Dress attractively, yet not seductively. That is all.

    GOSH!

    I have to admit, I was laughing when I read through some of these comments. Nothing can prevent a man from looking at you with 'dirty' thoughts.

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    Britt said on March 11, 2007 | Reply

    Ok..!!! Well, I am 14 years old, a mormon, and of course, I allways try to be as modest as possible. I think the people who made these bathing suits should be respected becuase they are only trying to help people be modest. And I totally agree that you should not judge what others would prefer to wear. BUT! I agree that they are hideous. I would never wear something like that. Whats nice to wear are those surfer tops that cover the tummy and shoulders! And since the girls isle only carries those itsty bitsy shorts, go buy some in the young mens or mens department! They look just as good!!!

  224. #224
    jacques said on March 11, 2007 | Reply

    check out this also:

    http://stanosheck.com/Modesty.html

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    Allison said on March 12, 2007 | Reply

    OMG! I never thought I'd come across a site like this! I pretty much agree completely with Annie (she posted on March 10th). Modesty is not just about the clothes you wear. It is how you comport yourself. You can look just as immodest in a burka as you can in a bikini. And wearing a burka will not stop men from having "dirty" thoughts about you. I am 15 and dress attractively as well as modestly. Like Annie said "there is a happy medium". God gave us our bodies. I don't think He wants women to make themselves look unattractive because they are trying to be modest. There are so many ways to look attractive and modest. I think a lot of people think that if you look attractive you are immodest. They will not tell you that though. There was a girl who posted on this site who said that her long blonde hair made boys weak for her. So she cut it off! It is stuff like that I can't believe! She just had beautiful hair so she cut it off! God gave her the hair and she threw it away. That example proves my point exactly. Many people think being attractive in the eyes of men is immodest. I am homeschooled and always have been. So I know what most home schooling familes are like. I am SO sick of families making there daughters feel like they are immodest because they are pretty! And trust me, it does not make your daughters want to be around you. I know a family who looked like a strong, Christian family on the outside. They were always so on top of there kids about their clothing. When the kids got older and started making their own decisions at least two of them started doing exactly what they had been taught not to do all their lives. When teenagers (especially) are not allowed to make any of their own decisions growing up, they will rebel against what was forced on them. I have seen it many times.


  226. #226
    lisa said on March 18, 2007 | Reply

    Fellow Creation, We have a duty to our Creator, the One and Only Most High God to glorify Him for who He is, not how this makes us feel but all about what He deserves. Our obedience to His will and our response to Him should be obvious . May He receive the reward of His suffering. God has commanded us to be modest. To dress in modest apparel. People, especially women have started to dress in tighter and more revealing clothing than ever in history. Less than 100 years ago women in this country covered their heads in fufilment of the scriptures and wore modest clothing. I think we can dress modestly now days without standing out too much. Modest actually means to not draw attention to yourself. I like to dress in such a way as to be modest (no pants cuz if they fit they are going to draw attention to your crotch or but or even thighs, unless you're quite thin and not "curvy" and still pants show the parts that catch the guys attention.)I like to dress in a way that I feel fits into my society without compromising purity. I actually would like to have a web-site with a fashion-type show to just give some "cool and funky" type modest fashions that can be purchased at a thrift store and who knows maybe purchased my daughter and I can sew them. I have put together some cute stuff. You can go to a thrift store and buy some capris and look for a short sleeve or long sleeve dress that is above the knees (try to make the dress and capris match) and put these two together to have a somewhat Indian looking really practical, fun-ky, comfortable, modest outfit. I know this is not for everyone, but this is my favorite summer outfits and if I could find long sleeve shorter dresses like I described I would match them with some loose draw string pants and a layer underneath the pants and long sleeve dress for winter. I really hope this outfit idea helps someone to be more modest. I don't like the narrow type skirts that you can't climb onto a bike while wearing and I hate the slits that most of them have and I feel like a tent in the really wide skirt so this outfit is really great for me when matched with some cute scarf or other head covering. I love all of you and hope God will lead you to do His will and then we will be truly beautiful!

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    Kimberly said on March 19, 2007 | Reply

    I am a 15 year old girl who goes to public school and I wear a very modest swimsuit that looks better than that. If you go to modest-swimwear.net you'll find what I wear. I commend everyone who wears it. I don't talk about your clothing (seriously I don't because it is YOUR choice) but I love to dress plainly as it is my testament of faith to God. I get my clothes from thekingsdaughters.com.

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    Celia said on March 28, 2007 | Reply

    Wow. Anyone who would make their children dress this way for Jesus or Muhammed is a creep.

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    Megan said on April 1, 2007 | Reply

    I swim nekkid.
    Good thing I'm not a Christian.

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    Mary said on April 1, 2007 | Reply

    I think that these swimsuits restrict proper swimming- there is no way to successfully excerise in the water or enjoy swimming for what it is, if you wear these suits. What I do, and I think what has worked best, is participate in non-coed swimming at my local country club. The pool is available only to women at certain hours, and only to men at certain hours. I am able to wear a normal suit, swim laps, feel free, and there is no question on modesty. You should inquire at your church/club/organization if this type of system is possible.

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    Rachel said on April 1, 2007 | Reply

    Sure, these swimsuits may not be the most attractive ones out there (style-wise), but at least they're modest and that's MORE attractive!

    I would LOVE to have one of the swimsuits on modest-swimwear.net, where Kimberly mentioned she got hers. The swimsuits on that site are much prettier than the ones being mocked on here. Unfortunately, they're a bit too expensive for me and I don't swim often enough to spend that much money on a bathing suit. I'm currently in the process of searching around at every store trying to find something cheap and modest to swim in. I'm finding it's a hopeless cause.

    If you want something modest and stylish, go to modest-swimwear.net!

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    Reege said on April 3, 2007 | Reply

    I have no problem against people wearing these swimsuits - they're not my style but if a person wishes to wear them there should be no moral objection to that. I don't agree with the people who judge people who wish to purchase these suits - saying they are wacky for wearing them- but i also don't agree with those people who attack other people who don't like the swimsuits and play the whole 'i am holier than thou' role because they enjoy the suits. I myself think they look a bit strange and cumbersome but that's just me. I'm a strong believer in modesty - i believe it is right for a woman to cover her body appropriately not just to stop the 'prying eyes' of men but retain her dignity - release that her beauty isn't dependant on her flaunting her body in front of everyone. But i also believe that it's quite alright to where fashionable clothes - i agree with someone who said that being attractive doesn't mean you're being immodest. I think it's good for women to wear pants, and jeans, and shorts (not short shorts) if they so wish and i know that i myself feel most comfortable in pants rather than a skirt - in a way i feel more modest because i am not bearing my legs (which are rather long) unless i wish too and i'm not in danger of 'flashing'.
    Women who wish to only ever wear skirts or dresses - that is their choice but that doesn't mean they r any better than the women who wear pants - as long as both styles of clothing are worn in the appropriate fashion they are both modest.
    One other thing i don't agree with is the comment made along while ago that it is women's fault that men sin with their eyes - i find that comment degrading to both men and women - it implies that women are evil seductresses out to drag men into their little sinful world and it also implies that men don't possess a free will. In a society where so often an impure image is before the eyes or is generated in the mind by conversation it is the choice of the person using their free will whether or not they will entertain such thoughts - it is not a sin to be tempted -it's a sin to give into the temptation. When a man sees a woman who may be dressed immodestly , yes that women has helped the situation in her dress and attitude but it is the choice of the man whether or not to pursue the temptation - men aren't idiots. Still it is best not to intially tempt them.

    Back to the swim suits - i myself wear a one piece though not as covering as this swimsuit i still feel modest - i wear board shorts and usually a t'shirt (otherwise i just burn - darn sun) - but i know plenty of people who are good friends of mine who wear bikinis and i know they are good people who are good Christians they jsut have a different and i would say lovingly, an underdeveloped sense of what modesty is - yet this doesn't change the fact that they aren't evil and trying to pull the foundations of Christianity down by wearing a bikini.
    God is merciful and God is understanding - He realises when a certain amount of ignorance is present or a lack of understanding. The problem with most people is that they are ignorant and if people are just going to maintain the 'holier than thou stance' they will never be informed in a way that they will accept - condescention (spelt that wrong) is never a way to get a message across.

    Also (i know i'm ranting but this is a long convo - jeeweez it's like 2yrs) - the idea expressed of limiting contact between the two sexes i personally find a little creepy - that a simple hug could imply so much i didn't consider - thing is that an act such as a hug is just an innocent act - if pursued with innocent intentions and if people wish to find explicit meanings in the action that is the work of an overactive sense of morality (it is possible) - where morality is taken to the point of being ridiculous. I think it is important that girls have friends who are boys and vica versa - it builds a healthy ability to converse with both the sexes without having the constant idea of 'every boy i meet could be my potential future husband'.
    But as stated before we've made a mountain out of a mole hill.
    'So do not worry about tomorrow: it will have enough worries of it's own. There is no need to add to the troubles each day brings. (Matt 6 L34)

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    Monica said on April 3, 2007 | Reply

    Whoever condones this type of wear surely wants its wearer to drown. Even if it's specially made to be buoyant, that buoyancy will also lend a hand to the drowning. For example, if a person was stuck in the water, or is being held down by a person, they would be unable to swim away, being pushed up by the buoyant "swim suit".
    Isn't the point of a swim suit to allow a person to enjoy themselves as they swim? Seriously, how is a person supposed to feel better about themselves, or even find any enjoyment as they swim if they are not only restricted by such baggage, but also by the fact that they will be even more stared at and laughed at... Isn't the whole point of this swim wear to show these wearers as 'unattractive' or, at least, to make it so that they get less attention. This swim wear may have succeeded in making its wearers look like tarts, but it hasn't succeeded in its latter purpose; the wearers of this so-called "modest swim-wear" attract more attention on themselves simply by wearing all that, since it leaves viewers - ie. perverted men - to wonder what these women/girls are hiding? Just because they look like parachutes, doesn't mean they're going to get less attention.

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    reege said on April 4, 2007 | Reply

    Being modest doesn't mean u can't b attractive - or draw attention - i don't think saying that just because these swimsuits draw attention it makes the wearer immodest is a valid excuse against people wearin this swim wear - if ppl chose to wear swimwear that is - what i personally think ugly (evryone's different) swimwear - that aren't immodest or provocative it is their choice. That is one thing - choice - i don't think ppl should b forced to wear these if they don't want to. But if a person wishes to wear them despite the gawks of other people they can go for their lives.
    Anyway i think they're ugly - others think they look great - some like red others don't - ppl shouldn't sling around crap - name calling and stuff - jeez - just over a difference of opinion over a bunch of swimwear pieces.
    Well it's amazing how a couple of swimwear pieces have brought up so much tension on the subject of modesty - strewth.
    byee

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    Lauren said on April 5, 2007 | Reply

    You know what? WHO CARES!!! I wouldn't personally wear these swimsuits, but as a mormon i would respect a person if i saw them wearing this swimsuit! at 13 even i understand that modesty is a good thing, it may mean different things to different people, and people may take it to different levels! I also a gree with a lot of people! Why should we be in charge of making sure men dont sin, when they sin it's on their tablet! sure , we shouldn't go out ina g-string and some bug cloth! but men do have a consciencious! they should use! also, it is also about attitude! if we go out swingin our hips and batting our eyelashes, we are inducing any feelings of lust! and thats what i have to say! whoever made this websit and all u who war these suits, i love u as god would, and respect u with all my haert.

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    Sherada said on April 8, 2007 | Reply

    Hi girls. After reading all of your comments I think you should know about a company that has modest swimwear and yet is cute! Actually absolutely darling! go to diviinemodestee.com
    They are a Christian company that has fashionable clothing and swim suits that are completely modest. I have one of their suits and their shirts and I love them! I am a devout Christian with high morals, but I really believe that God wants us to look beautiful as well. This company offers darling fashion without exposure to the world. Also read the tribute of the motherand daughter section where the owner gives tribute to her mother for her stand on modesty. It is beautiful and makes me want in everyway to give my mom this tribute as well. God is good. God is love and God gave us our beautiful bodies to show him we love him by being modest. The owner is beautiful of Diviine ModesTee and she truly is setting an example as she is a mother herself. I love you all and commend you for your stand on modesty. We may be the minority but someday when Christ comes again we have his smile upon us for standing against this world and maintaining our integrity and modesty.

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    reege said on April 9, 2007 | Reply

    Happy Easter to all who celebrate and those who don't. I suppose this would be a time to remember not to substitute actual morality with the pretense of morality by marking the criteria of morality by the clothes you wear - no ones perfect but God the son - Jesus - died and rose for everyone - not just the Christians.

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    Rachel said on April 10, 2007 | Reply

    Hi! Ahh...yeah, I've been reading all these comments, and they make me sad. You know, beauty is okay. That's something I've just learned. I grew up in a conservative family, where in my early teenage years I wore shorts and a t-shirt swimming (very unattractive, and very long). I remember I girl saying, "Oh, you're wearing actual SHORTS!" in a scoffing way--you know, instead of wearing coulettes or a skirt. But you know what? Despite having the conservative past, I was still sexually abused. See, sin is sin and it's eerywhere. It really is--and I really believe it's around in conservative circles as well, although it's supressed because of the stigma (well, that's everywhere, but especially somewhere where it shouldn't have happened. Silence is sometimes a terrible burden). Anyway, I'm getting married soon, and that's been interesting. It's been interesting hearing the phrase, "You're beautiful" in an absolutely pure way. Because you see, I had attributed beauty with pain, and wanted so much to hide it. But God doesn't make mistakes. Ever. He made you the way HE made you.

    That doesn't mean you walk around naked, but it does mean you accept grace. I don't wear sacks anymore--I wear board shorts and swimsuits (mostly) while swimming, because I'm rather athletic and do a lot of water skiing, wakeboarding, swimming, and...well, water. You know, sacks cause rashes. It's sometimes painful. Polyster is a beautiful thing. It's really a lot more practical.

    Amen. We can be free. You know, you can sin--you can try to prevent sin--but it's totally the intent of your heart that will come out in outward ways. Crap outward. Let's see what's in the heart. It's better. It'll come out, eventually, anyway.

    Guide us Jesus. Let your will be done on earth, as it is in heaven. And let's see your kingdom come.

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    Reege said on April 11, 2007 | Reply

    To Rachael - I hope your find great happiness in your marriage and I'm very happy for you - you seem to be a person of great strength. Seeing the truth in things is very hard and harder in horrible situations.
    Congratulations on the marriage.

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    Cassie said on April 12, 2007 | Reply

    I'm 16 and I wouldn't be caught dead in one of those swimsuits mentioned in the first few comments. wouldnt those swimsuits also pose as a drowning hazard for those who cant swim as well as others? i mean seriously look at how much fabric there is! its crazy! however, i'm also a christian, i love being modest, but i dont think theres anything wrong with flattering yourself. (not being provocative, mind you). I also HATE taking off my whole one piece to go to the bathroom.

    My solution over the past three years has been tankinis, however the past two years, it has been hard to find one that isnt too low or too short. I personally LOVE the suits at modbeclothing.com and diviinemodestee.com.

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    June said on April 13, 2007 | Reply

    From the first moment I seen your suits i loved them. Just what i am looking for. They do not show any areas of my body that i don't want to show. Meaning no hugging of curves even when there is fabric over the curves, and covers the areas of what i call a modest dress would cover.

    Read through some of the comments and am surprised as some of them being so negative. Someone asked why your suits are not cute, what is cute? Yours just look lilke a modest dress and that is wonderful.

    I will be telling my husband about these suits and will be considering buying one.

    You are such an encouragement to me. Thank you and God Bless your ministry! June

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    grackoid said on April 13, 2007 | Reply

    WOW!!!
    I amamazed at what some of you have said.
    we all need to be modest! no mater what the age!!there is no
    extreme when it comes to being modest!!
    i am amamazed that pepole can even wear some of the swimsuits today!! i would rather have pepole stare at me because i am being "too" modest ( NO SUCH THING!) than have pepole look at me in the wrong way!.

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    Kristin said on April 21, 2007 | Reply

    Ok, i can understand people who wish to dress modestly so that they dont attract the *lustful eye of men*. But dear Lord these swim suits are hideous. I would rather stay inside all the time and never see the the light of day, than ever step outside with one of these on. I know God wants us to cover ourselves up but im sure he didnt want us to look ugly doing it. When i go swimming i wanna look cute and comfortable, not like im wearing a potato sack. Usually when people go outside to swim or play around in the sand at the beach, its probably around 90-100 degrees, and wearing that suit could make you suffer from heat stroke. I dont mean to go on and on about how awful these things look, but come on, you can still look modest and not wear something so repulsive as this. I'm a definate Christian, but if i saw a girl wearing this at the pool i would probably cry in shame and embarrassment for them.

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    Ben Dover said on April 21, 2007 | Reply

    These suits are setting kids up for being the 'weird kid' in life. As you may know, kids can be mean and these suits are not going ot help the situation. I am not saying that the clothes out there now for kids are appropriate these days, but I mean this is taking it to a total extreme. If I saw a child in this suit then I would wonder what her parents where thinking. Giving them no freedom now is going to set them up for a huge shock when they get older. You can't remain innocent forever.

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    Denise said on April 21, 2007 | Reply

    THESE ARE GORGEOUS! I would like to buy one of these for myself and for both of my daughters. They are both getting to be 13 (twins) and unfortuneately they're growing a figure. Sometimes i wanna send a *hate* prayer to God for cursing my girls with a front and a backside. But you know, we cant choose how our bodies take form. Heck, if i could choose how i wanted life to be ran i'd want my daughters to stay at home and help me cook meals and do laungry til they're 35! And they sure wouldnt be courting any boys til then either. Me and my husbands convictions on that are unlike most peoples. We believe our daughters shouldnt be sent out of the house until they are fully ready, and we agreed that that age would be 35 or 36. So hopefully all the good quality men arent taken then. And im not talking quality like muscle/good looking man, im talking about the man that lives life the old fashion way and grows his own food out in the feilds. Thats the true way to make the living. But back to the suits, I think these are very appropriate however i'm wondering if the leggings come further down more towards the ankle, and the sleeves more towards the wrists? Another rule me and husband have is no elbows and knees are to be shown.

    Okay anyone who read this whole comment all the way down to here, i'm totally JUST KIDDING! i wrote that as a joke, i really think these suits are extremely inappropriate in the sense of fashion, so please get these ugly *potato sacks* off the market for heavens sakes!!!

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    Rebekah said on April 23, 2007 | Reply

    Hello,
    i googled "modest swimwear", and this is one of the sites i found. i used to have wholesome wear, and i don't really like it. the vest thingee got to me. now i'm selling a modest swimsuits thats really cool. the website is: www.stitchintimes.com. they are made by an amish lady. (believe it or not!) but i like them a lot better.

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    Alicia said on April 23, 2007 | Reply

    OH MY GOSH!!! I thought you were serious! (Denise) I have seen parents that are extreme but not that extreme!! You totally had me thinking you were some weirdo! I agree with the second part of your coment by the way!

    ~Alicia~

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    patti said on April 23, 2007 | Reply

    F*** THIS S***. seriously people, what the [heck]? modesty is stupid and a waste of time. i walk around not wearing very much if i feel like it. the other day i got sand in my jeans from being thrown on the ground by some of my friends (as a joke, they're not abusive), and so i just took my pants off and emptied the sand out of them. my friends consisted of one girl and two boys ( i am a girl), and no one freaked out or even cared. get over it. people have bodies.

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    Don said on April 23, 2007 | Reply

    patti,

    You kiss your mother with that mouth? Nice.

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    reege said on April 24, 2007 | Reply

    hi all,
    ok when i wss reading denise's comment i almost freaked - that was a cracker!
    And Patti - modesty isn't stupid - modesty taken to the extreme makes people look ridiculous but modesty on the whole is good - it shows a dignity that a person naturally has all the better. You think if a guy looks at a girl wearing hardly a thing that he's thinking of what a nice girl she is and how he'd like to get to know better such a person. More likely a guy with loose morality would be thinking things slightly less g rated, a good man would mostly likely pity the girl who feels they need to bare parts of their body in order to feel a sense of worth - sexual worth really. Anyway I don't condemn anyone who wears immodest clothing - that's their choice (doesn't mean it's right) - but those who do shouldn't condemn those who wear modest clothing and believe modesty isn't stupid and visa versa etc etc.
    Well that's enough monologueing at a computer
    byee

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    Tia said on April 29, 2007 | Reply

    Ok, I'm 13 I'm a christian and totally believe in being modest. But thoughs swimsuits are just unbelievably ugly! I have a modest tankini from Modbe. www.modbeclothing.com I love it I feel good and dont have to worry if im showing to much. alot of my friends wear immodest clothes, but that doesnt change my modesty we are all still friends just the same!

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    Debbie said on April 29, 2007 | Reply

    I have to admit I was very suprised when I first saw these swimsuits. I did think they were very ugly. But the more comments I read about them, the better I like them. I am very proud of all the girls out there who are trying their best to be modest! I do have a comment that I haven't seen anyone else post. I was raised and am raising my children that you just don't go swimming in mixed company!!!!!!

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    Jeff said on April 30, 2007 | Reply

    Wowwy, where to start with all this.

    First of all, I'm one of the few men who have posted here, so hopefully my comments will be found to be productive, since I am one of the men who is expected to control his lusts, and rightfully so.

    Here's a thought, has anyone asked themselves why they are swimming in the first place? I'm not saying we shouldn't be, but I ask this to be thought provoking. One of the first things we should do before we engage in any activity is to ask ourselves why we are doing it in the first place. Philippians 4:8 is an excellent Scripture to memorize to help us in evaluating all of our activities. If the activity does not meet this Biblical standard, then we should not engage in it, or at least not without a willingness to accept the recourse that comes with it.

    As a Christian, there are times when I make a conscious decision not to engage in an activity if I believe it will cause a problem in the life of a younger or less mature believer. Consider Paul's attitude when it came to eating meat that had been offered to an idol. In that day, that was a common practice and there were those who struggled with the question of whether or not it was the right thing to do. Rather than cause a younger brother or sister to offend, he chose not to engage in the activity rather than satisfy a legitimate lust of the flesh (eating). If you have no concern for how your dress affects the life of those around you, then you are at best spiritually immature, at least in this area. That is not a statement of opinion, but one of fact. Selfishness is not just a children's issue.

    As a family, we purposefully choose to not put ourselves in the company of those who are dressed provocatively, male or female. In this particular conversation, that would mean public assembly places for the purposes of swimming, sun bathing, etc. When the Bible speaks of avoiding the very appearance of evil, it doesn't just mean that you should avoid engaging in the conduct, but putting yourself purposefully in the path of the activity. In other words, don't put yourself in a position of being tempted. Here's a simple example. In our society, we rely heavily on advertising for the purpose of soliciting impulse sales or name recognition. If I have a weakness for a particular food that I know that I should avoid, then the best thing for me to do is to avoid going where that item is promoted. If you wear clothing that accentuates your physical attributes, you are advertising those attributes, and should not be surprised when people look inappropriately, or worse. Many men with whom I work look like a bunch of panting dogs salivating on the windows when a woman walks by outside. Not one time in the last 18 years has it been when a conservatively dressed woman walked by, but rather a woman who was accentuating some portion of her anatomy that should only be viewed by her husband.

    Here is another extremely personal example that I believe will help those who speak about men controlling their lusts. When I was in my early 20s, I was in a grocery store and two young woman walked by me wearing shorts and colored bras (bikini tops as some may call them). I had to suppress an overwhelming urge to grab one of the girl’s tops and pulling it off. I had no thought that day of doing anything like that, and I did the right thing by suppressing the impulse, but it would have been a lot better to not have been presented with an image that resulted in such a possible reaction. I saw a lot more women than just those two that day, but no other person's dress provoked such a possible behavior. I have never been tempted in such a way by a woman dressed conservatively. Bear in mind that I am a Christian, and was at that time, but still had the temptation. What could have resulted had I not had the spiritual discernment to control my behavior? I could very well be serving much deserved time in some prison today. I thank God often for helping me that day. The apostle Paul spoke of a sin that easily besets each of us, and for each of us, it can certainly be different. I readily admit that as a man, I am a visual creation, and believe that I have a common weakness in that area. Because of that, I don't frequent places of business that contribute to that weakness. I pray for strength, spend time with my wife, etc, to help avoid such temptation.

    Remember, those who think your dress doesn't matter, you just heard from a very honest man. I'm not trying to make you paranoid, but there are those out there without Christ who don't have the strength to resist urges, and that is exactly why rape occurs, harassment, voyeuristic photography, etc. It does not excuse the behavior, but at least helps explain it. Passions without check or balance. As a Christian, I am given, with God's promise, a way to escape, and I have the responsibility to pursue that means of escape. I will quote Scripture to myself, start singing a Godly song, etc, to keep those physical passions in check.

    I should also point out, that now that I am a much more mature Christian, I am still tempted, which is not a sin, but I can avoid the opportunity to give into temptation because the Bible is more of a light unto my path today than it was then.

    Elizabeth Rice said it well once with her book entitled, Your Clothes Say it for You. I was asked a question on a call in show one time years ago like this, "In the 60s, what form of self-expression starting becoming prevalent?" I didn't know, but the answer was T-Shirts with statements and images on them. There are three basic things that can be taken from people's clothing: Rebellion/Arrogance, Submission/Humility, or Ignorance. Rebellion/Arrogance seldom results in anything considered conservative. Submission/Humility seldom results in anything considered hateful or rebellious. Ignorance typically shows a persons nature while they may not actually realize what it is. The Bible says that there are some things that nature itself teaches are wrong, but not everything. Some things are taught implicitly. Our boys and girls are taught by all sorts that nakedness (and I don't mean total absence of clothing) is acceptable, and as such, they are sold, via advertising and peer pressure, on fashions that result in intimate exposure, exposure only appropriate within the confines of marriage. We are barraged in the news with things such as Britney Spears' lack of undergarments, and she's not by herself. If she'd have worn much more appropriate clothing, no one would have known such a thing in the first place. Ask yourself when was the last time you saw a person of worldly prominence on the world's music stage that didn't intentionally take measures to expose their body in some way? There's a reason that 10s of thousands attend rock concerts, and 100s attend Godly musicals and church services. One appeals to the flesh, the other, a Godly spirit.

    I personally would not do this, but why not go up to a woman sometime and ask her to strip to her underwear? You and I know that except for rare instances, it would probably result in a call for the police, and it should. Why then is that not acceptable, but it is acceptable to wear that or less, and walk into a public forum, such as a beach, pool, or store? It is spiritual blindness, clear and simple.

    God made us to enjoy food, but not be overindulgent. God made us sexual, but only exercised within the confines of marriage. God gave us the ability to create means of destruction, but only used for appropriate purposes. The list could certainly go on. We are given free-will, but not without recompense. If God killed us on the first offense, most of us would never live beyond a few years of age. Thankfully, we can be forgiven our trespasses, but with those trespasses comes punishment. God waited 70 or more years sometimes to punish Israel as a nation for their wrongs against Him. Just because we don't endure punishment immediately upon offense doesn't mean our behavior is acceptable in His sight.

    As I started, keep the Bible as the light to your path, not the newspaper, magazines, TV, radio, friends, etc. God never changes; all of those things do.

    As to the purpose of this page, as I see it, it is to give those who seek an option to dress in a fashion they find to be in keeping with Scripture an opportunity to do so. It may not be the best, but it is a sight better (pun intended) than 95% of what is on the beaches of this world today. I came to this site in an attempt to help my wife find a modest alternative to the worldly dress offered in stores which are most often owned by worldly people appealing to worldly minded people, since that is what the majority of the world is composed of. If the world was so full of God fearing Christians as we are sometimes led to believe, there would be more consideration given to the needs of these people.

    One more thing, for those who want to discuss judging others, the very fact that you rebuke them for doing so is a judgment. The Lord's admonition via Matthew's pen was not to prohibit judgments, but to give us pause that when we do so, we need to be spiritual, first of all, and to be ready to be judged in the same fashion as we have judged.

    God bless, and as a Godly lady I heard say one time, if He can.
    Jeff

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    Mel said on April 30, 2007 | Reply

    Well...I'm beautiful, young and I'm hot. I am lucky to have a skinny perfect body, long legs, flat stomach, and a great figure... and I can eat whatever I want and still stay like super skinny. So I am going to relish in my beautiful youth and wear sexy bikinis because I am confident and they make me feel confident. Other men can lust but who cares, in their dreams right, HA! They'll never have me, only my awesome boyfriend who super approves of what I wear as is. So blah, that's just my opinion.

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    grackoid said on May 1, 2007 | Reply

    i just wanted to say thanks to all the pepol who put all those great websits with modest swim stuff
    i have been looking for a LONGGGGGGG time!!!
    i am 13 and it is sooo hard to be modest so thanks for the help!!!!

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    Beth Guffey said on May 3, 2007 | Reply

    I have been in church for 4 1/2 years. I recieved the baptism of the Holy Ghost about 5 months after being baptized in the name of Jesus. Since then I have many convictions about my appearance. My mother sarted putting lip gloss on me at a very young age and dressing me up like a Barbie. My whole life I have been told that I was a beautiful woman and I have always had attention from men in all directions. I have always been confident and really did not pay as much attention to the attention as friends and boyfriends did. My mother told me to take care of myself and my appearance for me, to look good for me. I was never, even before the Lord a trashy dresser that flashed everything, and had my own style irreguardless of fads. However, I was always "made up". I was tasteful but there was nothing natural about my appearance. When I met my husband and was introduced to the true spirit of God in his families church, all I had been raised to be and look like changed. I am 32 years old, I lived a full but "dead" life without the lord for 28 years. There has to be something that the rest of the world sees in God's own that they want. They have to see Jesus in us. The way I guage if I should do something or not is first by the word of God. If it says "do not" then don't! If there is mystery in the scripture than I PRAY! The Lord revealed to me very early on how to know in my heart if something was of him. He is everywhere, omnipresent, he sees everything within us and around. If you see these woman wearing these swimsuits and wonder why they have such a devotion to God in their hearts. Ask yourself this, Knowing Jesus is Lord of Lords and with you every step in life you take, by your side. Would you walk down the beach with him talking and laughing with what you normally wear at the beach on? Would you be ashamed? We are not suppose to cause stumbling blocks for one another, but to exort each other and lift one another up. Do you buy your clothes with the intention to draw attention to yourself?We have to all seek out our own salvation.If anyone thinks that everything that God has shown you is right for everyone else at that very moment than you are mistaken.There is a standard though. The word of god describes many times what the world should see in you if you truly live for him. When you go buy your bathing suit and look in the mirror, Do you say "I look hot" or do you think this is "comfortable". When I went to get a swimsuit last year I was devistated. How do you feel uncomfortable wearing pants and shorts and feel good about wearing a bathing suit that is made of less material than the clothing you wear? That is what I asked myself. Now when I try one on I want to look attractive to my husband but covered for the rest of the world. The difference in a Godly man though is that he will want you to look like you love the Lord and not the way you look to others . You don't have to look "bla". If you are beautiful, you are going to look beautiful no matter how much more you cover your body. Why worry about what people think about what you are going to swim in. If you are wearing it truly to swim than it should be safe, comfortable & easy to move around in.The Bible is very solid about doctrine for a reason of course. Man has added the "bi-laws". I thank God for showing me to rightly devide his word. I thank him for giving me the strength to seperate myself from the world. It did not happen overnight. There are some women in my church that are at a different level of understanding about certain revelations in Christ and the word.There love for him is no less than my own. They still uphold a modest standard of appearance even if it is not as strict as my own that I have for myself. When I look in the mirror now I see God's true creation in me more and more daily. I don't not cut my hair to look more holy, I leave it uncut because the Lord says I will have the power of angels in my uncut hair. I wear skirts now not because many of my sisters do but because I want the world to know I am in submission to my head.My husband. My God. I don't wear colors all over my face anymore because I want to look natural and clean. I don't want attention from other men or anyone else. On the other hand I know women that don't wear pants but let their daughters wear skirts three inches below there bottoms. If the knelt to pray for someone at the alter they would show the church their private areas. The deffinition of modessty is found within your own heart. When people look at you do you reflect the image of the living God or of a dead world. I don't know which of these sites I will purchase a modest swimsuit from but I know I will have one. I would rather draw attention to myself in the name of Jesus and modesty than because I have on the latest trendy two piece that I could wear as well as anyone else. They make natural make up if you have skin conditions and need a little concealer (Bare Minerals is great) I use a light powder the color of my own skin and clear mascara and "softlips" on my lips and sometimes a little bronzer in the summer. You cannot even tell I have anything on my face. The Lord has kept my hair in wonderful condition, just as he kept the children of Israel's clothing in good repair and I don't touch it with scissors. I know as well that the fun I will have swimming will not be hindered by my clothing because I don't wear a two piece any longer. My only point in all of this is. Because I lived as part of the world I know the "world" will always find justification for what it wants to do.
    I am very proud of some of the testimonies I have read on this page that are clearly from spirit filled brothers & sisters. Just as the natural Army has many different members with numerous jobs so it is also in the Army of God. Please let us all remember that maybe our individual degrees of conviction are due to the power required in our individual jobs within his Army. Maybe the woman born into an atmosphere of "extreme" modesty would be a harlot if she didn't dress just so. And if she ever felt the attention from the world she may be distracted from the true purpose God has set aside in her life. When I am in a store or anywhere really and I meet someone else's gaze I ask the Lord to let them see him, not me. To all of you that Have gloified God with your testimony on here, thank you for being bold and obedient. To those of you that "relish"in yourselves & your appearance know this. Fact: The one thing in the Bible that no religion or faith can argue is this, we were created to "relish" in God above ourselves. To live everyday to glorify him as much as possible. When people look at you do they say "there is a true friend of Jesus?" I thank God for delivering me from the bondage of a superficial world.

  257. #257
    lis said on May 8, 2007 | Reply

    I do wan to be modest but I do not want to look like a cow or be the weird kid by wearing one of these! Go to Downeastbasics.com they have modest attractive bathing suits that I really like!

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    mrsbear said on May 9, 2007 | Reply

    If you are interested in modest swim suits check out this site too.
    I think these look nice enough to wear.

    http://www.modest-swimwear.net/

    Lands End also gives you modest choices

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    Turandot said on May 15, 2007 | Reply

    WOW! These suits are great. Just add the optional head-scarf and veil and you could wear it while vacationing in Iran.

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    Don said on May 15, 2007 | Reply

    Excellent analogy Turandot!

    Choosing to wear one of these swimsuits in a free, open and democratic society where the rights of everyone are protected is so close to being forced under penalty of death to wear a burka, niqab, chador, khimar or hijab in a fanatical society run by extremist zealots where women can be raped and killed with impunity.

    Great comment, please stop by again to share your thoughts with us. Alternatively, take a vacation to Iran, where whatever clothes you want, maybe pull out a Bible in downtown Tehran, enjoy!

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    Susan said on May 21, 2007 | Reply

    Modesty is a choice. NO ONE has the right to degrade or offend anyone over their choice of what to wear. I do not approve of extreme tattos, piercings or mohawks however, that is those individuals choices and as such should be respected. As for those leaving negative comments about someone offering modest clothing for others I can only be led to believe maybe your a little envious that other have the courage to choose the right thing and stand up for what they believe in... try it sometime and then maybe you won't be so quick to lash out at others. Generally, negativity stems from self doubt and insecurities.
    Best of Luck on becoming a better Human Being!
    Blessings Sue

  262. #262
    Stephanie said on May 21, 2007 | Reply

    Umm.. why would God not want us women to wear pants?!

    I don't understand.

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    grackoid said on May 22, 2007 | Reply

    Wear pants??????!! What do you mean????

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    Katie said on May 26, 2007 | Reply

    Oh lord. What has the world come to?

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    Tasha said on May 26, 2007 | Reply

    Women should never be blamed for being raped....how ignorant of a statement it is to say that rape is due to how a woman dresses.....
    Sexist, close minded....

  266. #266
    Don said on May 26, 2007 | Reply

    Tasha,

    Of course a woman should never be blamed for being raped. However, there are common sense steps a person should take as they go through life.

    It's no different than when a person gets robbed, you wouldn't blame a person who gets robbed. But, at they same time it isn't very smart to go to a bad neighborhood with lots a cash sticking out of your pockets and purse and drink until you pass out drunk. It wouldn't be surprising if such a person got robbed as they clearly didn't act with much common sense.

    I would never blame the victim of rape or robbery, it's still the criminal's fault and not the victim's. However, you cannot ignore the fact that how people behave throughout their life will either maximize the likelihood of outcomes that are positive or outcomes that are negative.

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    Julia said on May 28, 2007 | Reply

    Why would anyone want to wear something like that?! its ugly and u would get to hot out in the sun wearing that and you wouldn't get a tan!!!!!!! ah! well anyways tons of ppl would make fun of u plus the price is ridiculous i mean who would pay that much for an ugly swimsuit ?!!

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    Adair said on June 11, 2007 | Reply

    hahaaaaaahahaahaa yeah well i personnaly think this is hilarious. i've been able to find a swimsuit that i'm comfortable around and if there is a problem of where i wear it, i wear t'shirt and shorts over it. i don't think we need to go to these extremes to be modest. and the price is soo ridiculious. modesty should not be soooooo expensive.

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    Rebecca said on June 14, 2007 | Reply

    I am 13. When I saw these swimsuits I thought they were very ugly. But if I were to see someone with these on I would not make fun of them. I think that would be very mean. I, myself would not wear swimsuits like this. You can look modest but still flattering. These swimsuits could make you drown possibly. I used to live in a christian community and when we swam wehad to wear pants with a skirt over it. a long skirt to our ankles. We never wore pants, which is ridiculous. Pants ARE modest. If you are looking for I swimsuit that is pretty but modest i would reccomend Blair.com. They have swimsuits with shorts attaactched and swimmsuits with skirts . They do not come to the knee. They are about 8 inches from the waist.

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    reege said on June 20, 2007 | Reply

    good comment Don - and it's true.
    I see no reason also why a woman wouldn't be allowed to wear pants. There has been to proclamation from any Church that i know of - including my own saying that it is immodest or a sin for a woman to wear pants. I find them more comfortable and i feel more covered whne i wear them because i don't have the fear that i will flash any undergarments - ha
    anyway - in a matter such as this it does come down to choice, but there still is the better choice

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    ThinkingMom said on June 24, 2007 | Reply

    There are "modest" suits and then there are those ugly, hideous things they have on that website. Somehow, I think God cares more about what is on the inside of us than what is on the outside. I'm not condoning women letting it all hang out, but there is a big difference between covering up your breasts and wearing a burka. Just goes to show you how radical religions try to make women feel that they are somehow responsible for the lust of men.

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    3-reg-3 said on June 28, 2007 | Reply

    I think that it is more a choice. There are other ways to practice modesty in swimwear. I respect ANYONE who chooses to wear more modest clothing, especially in swimwear, regardless of how it looks. I personally wouldn't wear the swimsuits you specified, I take a different approach to modest swimwear, if you want descriptions, feel free to check out my blog.

    I've started my own "anti-fashion" blog, and swimwear is the first thing I am attacking. And giving my own insight on.

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    MArk said on July 2, 2007 | Reply

    Question...why do we wear clothes at all? Just think-what would the world be like if the President had to stand naked in front of the camera trying to explain why we invaded Iraq?

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    tj said on July 2, 2007 | Reply

    I think those swimsuits would be a nice change from what is available in stores. My family didn't like the suits so I got mine at christa-taylor.com . I love the fact that my suit is a sleeveless rash guard and board shorts when nature calls and it doesn't cling too much. having worked in nursing homes the thought of all men walking around nude is very horrifying.

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    Leslie said on July 2, 2007 | Reply

    Deidra and Drew-- This site is a swim wear site for people with religious views that support modesty. You are sick to think that just because a girl is not flaunting her body, she is some how living a horrible, repressive life.A little acceptance, please. No more ignorance. I'm not going to purchase these swimsuits, but I'm not going to mock the site's standards. I would much rather have my daughter wear that than flaunt her body to the world of sick men. SICK men. You people need to practice acceptance. What a cruel, heartless world we live in. If more people understood, and didn't let their prejudices blind them, the world would have a lot less problems. Don't be so ignorant or so unfeeling.

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    greg said on July 15, 2007 | Reply

    I think girls should be more modest than these swimsuits even because some girls even let thee fingers show!!!!!!
    Im just kidding modesty is good.........

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    haleema said on July 16, 2007 | Reply

    These suites are wonderful. I aplaud all women that are not afraid to be modest in this shameless time in which we live. I would buy one myself but I am looking for a loose fitting long sleeve suite that ties at the ankle. It will also have to say that it is a swim suite so that I don't get kicked out of the pool for dressing in a manner pleasing to our creator instead of being dressed in a manner pleasing to the devil.

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    Jessie said on July 16, 2007 | Reply

    THESE BATHINGSUITS ARE FREAKIN CRAZY!!!!!! I would give up going to the beach for the rest of my life if I had to wear these hideous things. I hope the models in the pictures were paid a lot money to be seen in public and photographed in those horrible suits. Geh. I mean, c'mon people. A lot of you sound like total wackos. I believe in modesty but, you all sound like a bunch of prudes who think your better than everyone else. Quit acting like the poor girls who walk around in bikinis are deranged demon animals. Maybe their parents aren't aware of what they're letting their girls do. I pitty those girls, not hate on em' like you all do.

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    brian said on July 24, 2007 | Reply

    u guys are freaking unbelivable. yea i belive in god but i think a womens body is something to adore, not hide. wats wrong with u people. get a grip on reality and relize these things are nerdy

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    robbie said on July 25, 2007 | Reply

    I live in the UK. I take my holidays at a naturist resort/beach in France. 60,000 people happily enjoying the beach and sun in the nude. Full of crazy perverts and lustful men. Not at all, just normal people realising that the human body nude is not a nasty, dirty, sinful thing, and, incidentally, kids take not a bit of notice of nude adults, they are to busy making sand castles and swimming. At least they will grow up with a healthy, normal attiitude.

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    Middle-woman said on July 25, 2007 | Reply

    Let people do what they want to do as long as it's not hurting you. If people feel comfortable wearing this kind of outfit, for whatever reasons, be they religious/body image problems, why should anyone criticize them? You are not being forced to wear them in the same way as they are not being forced to wear string bikinis.
    As far as all the religious arguments are concerned, some of them seem way out of line and seem to stem from ignorance. Men are to be held responsible for what they do. Also, all kinds of "evils" existed since time immemorial and these "evils have nothing to do with modern dressing.

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    W said on July 29, 2007 | Reply

    You should all try a topfree or nudist beach
    for a day or two and get over it. Christians use the word modesty or indecency when they really mean body shame.

    Clothing does not make you superior to someone
    who is naked. This is nothing but Puritanism
    and has little to do with Christianity, Islam
    or Judaism. What is a real shame is that you
    have to spend the rest of your lives hating
    your bodies. Why do males get to take off
    their shirts at the beach and females do not?
    To dominate and make money off of females.

    It never used to be like this. Both sexes
    wore little or no clothing through out 98-99%
    of human history.

    The Church and State make a lot of money off
    of your shame. The Church uses nudity as a
    device to lay guilt on everyone about sex.
    The State gets large sums of revenue from the
    the sale of pornography, while saying that
    they have passed laws to fight it. The worst
    thing that females could do to combat pornography would be to go nude at the beach.
    Nudity is the major draw for pornography.

    Females should at least go topfree. Just like
    males do. I’ll bet that if you did for 10 or
    15 minutes you would probably do for the rest
    of your life. Turn back the clock to way it used
    to be. Start asking the males around you why
    their chests are considered normal and decent
    and yours is not. It would be great if every
    State would encourage females to go one summer
    topfree. Most would never put that top or one-
    piece back on.

  283. #283
    Micah said on August 6, 2007 | Reply

    The most amazing thing is that this discussion has been going on since 2004. Take a break, eat something.

  284. #284
    S Dizzle said on August 6, 2007 | Reply

    I LOVVVVEEE these suits... not only do I wear them to the beach but i have one for every day of the week, and I like to wear them to my classes, as well as dance. I think that showing off anything that could be lustful to man is absolutely rediculous, and desreves disiplne. The only thing on my body that I show are my eyes, I was taught as a child that my ankles, wrists, neck and everything in between were to be covered, so I would not attract the attention of men. I LOVE THESE SUITS. MODESTY ROCKS!!!!

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    Caitlin said on August 7, 2007 | Reply

    I'm sixteen, and I wear a string bikini to the beach, the pool, and any other time I'll be swimming. I love the body God gave me just as much as I know God loves me. why on earth should I be told that what God made me isn't good enough or isn't 'proper'? God loves everyone, from the most disease-ridden whore on the streets to the nuns in the convent. These suits seem to want to put women in the corner- why? Love yourself, and all God made you. don't be ashamed.

  286. #286
    Naomi said on August 9, 2007 | Reply

    Here is a cute, customizable suit for those who would like to sew their own.

    whttp://www.biblicalwomanhood.com/fmpswimwearpatterns.htm

  287. #287
    X-AWM said on August 13, 2007 | Reply

    Thank you. You all (especially Jimbo) have provided me with a much-needed laugh! And have reminded me exactly what I have left behind and why! Again, thanks!

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    Rose said on August 13, 2007 | Reply

    I own one of the WholesomeWear swimsuits, and I love it. Before I got this suit I would swim in my dress with shorts underneath. The WholesomeWear suits are comfortable and easy to swim in.
    I have read every reply on this forum, and I'm surprised at how heated this topic gets, simply because some people choose to wear this suit.
    I am a 14 year old home-schooled girl and I have worn dresses my whole life. My mom is not forcing me to do this, nor is she ruling me “with an iron fist”, as some people have assumed.
    I have learned a sense of modestly, and it appears to me that many are taught to ignore their natural instinct to be modest until showing a lot of skin no longer bothers them.
    I choose not to reveal anything that would be better saved for my future husband. The Bible says “Let us not therefore judge one another any more: but judge this rather, that no man put a stumblingblock or an occasion to fall in his brother’s way.” Romans 14:13. Because of this Biblical principle, I choose to keep my body modestly covered.
    Some people have pointed out that being modest means not to attract attention, and this suit will surely attract attention. These people seem to miss the whole point of being modest, because while these suits may make people notice you, you will not attract the wrong kind of attention.
    Yes, I deal with peer pressure, because my home schooled friends don't dress as I do, but I can stand it because I know I'm doing the right thing.

  289. #289
    Karasu said on August 13, 2007 | Reply

    I actually found this page while doing a search online for modest swimwear. I also found the site that the pics up top refer to, and while I personally think that they look a little cheesy, I like the concept. I'm 22 w/ a four month old baby girl that I want to set a good example for. I also want to dress modestly for God, and also for the fact that I haven't yet worked off all of my post-pregnancy tummy.

    Anyway, I can understand why items like this are being made, with a world increasingly becoming more and more liberal with its values, trying to throw morals out the window. And as far as that first comment goes...I believe that that 30-year-old woman's parents are simply trying to protect her...and in the end, she'll be thankful for it. The "Dating Game" is way overrated. I didn't date around, and yet God gave me a wonderful husband, and now a sweet daughter, one whom we plan to protect likely in a similar way. My husband has even said that if our daughter never marries, she can live with us as long as she's single. So really, in a society where we kick out our children before they're ready and tell them to fend for themselves, I think that family should be commended.

    Although, we DO plan to send her off to college when she's ready.

  290. #290
    Karasu said on August 13, 2007 | Reply

    Caitlin, I just happened across your comment and it truly saddened me. If you are truly saved, then, yes, God DOES love you, but he doesn't love what you are doing with the body he gave you FOR THE HUSBAND YOU MAY (or may not) EVENTUALLY MARRY. When I was your age (only six years ago), I would never have worn a string bikini ANYWHERE. One SHOULD be ashamed at such behavior, when the bible clearly states that women are to dress modestly. Modesty does not equal a string bikini, that boys AND men will see and may lust after your body.

    I know many girls and young (and not-so-young) women tell themselves that it is a MAN's fault for not being able to control himself if he lusts after a woman, and that is not entirely untrue. Yes, there are some men out there who will lust after a woman with messed up hair, no makeup, and wearing sweatpants that cover her from neck to ankles, but the simple fact is that the way a woman dresses sends a message to any man (or person in general) that sees her. A woman or girl wearing very little clothing (especially when she COULD wear MORE) says to the casual observer "I'm hot, I know it, you want it, and you might just have it." In fact, it's more likely read as "Come and get it." Where as a woman dressed modestly, with her bust and butt covered among other things, will not draw attention to her body, but to other aspects (personality, beliefs, etc.).

    I hope and pray that the Lord convicts you of this soon, and that nothing bad happens to you before (or after) then as a result of your current style of dress.
    P.S. The bible doesn't say that God loves everyone; just those whom He has called according to His purposes, those who are saved.

  291. #291
    mace said on August 17, 2007 | Reply

    Karasu,
    First off, I totally agree with everything you said...EXCEPT for that whole P.S. part. That is totally absurd! Christianity is based upon Gods love! It says in John 3:16 (one of the most well known Bible verses) that GOD SO LOVED THE WORLD!! Which means everyone.

  292. #292
    cheyenne said on August 21, 2007 | Reply

    this is ridiculous! talk about a tan line!! no one wants to swim in a full suit. I know that people should not be exploited but god excepts everyone the way they are not if they are dressed modestly or not. the person modeling the one on the far right looks like a man(just so you know). Whoever wears this is going to be stared at and laughed at. People are not going to be atracted to you if it looks like you are insecure with you body and feel the need to cover it so much!!! I never seen anyone wear this before. The first time i saw this i was on www.perezhilton.com and the comments people left where hilarious. But i dont think people should be so incredibly stuck up on covering up!!

  293. #293
    veronica said on August 24, 2007 | Reply

    whom or whatever gave us bodies, and sex drives and eyes and imaginations problably would be pretty bummed that some of us aren't bothering to enjoy them. the more liberal non-christian posters here arent angry that you made a choice to cover your body, they are angry that you place so much importance on living a modest "un- worldly" life when, unless you are amish, the wal marts and various other corporations that you support through your daily purchases rape and pillage the god- created beauty of countries and peoples all over the world. youre wordly no matter how much of your body you try to cover.

  294. #294
    Khera said on August 29, 2007 | Reply

    I see these swimsuits as offering a choice to those who would like to wear something more modest. Being allowed freedom of choice is what this is about. If your fashion sense is hurt by this swimsuit, you don't have to wear it! Why must there be such a debate about decency when the skimpiest thong doesn't get noticed anymore? I applaud the mothers who encourage and support their daughters in respecting their bodies and not bare themselves as our popular culture as would like us to; a culture that is dictated by perverse middle- aged men out to make a fast buck.

  295. #295
    Cera said on September 6, 2007 | Reply

    I would like to refer all of you who have commented on this subject to a passage in the great book of instructions, the Bible (KJV).
    Timothy said in I Timothy 2:9,10...

    "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;
    But (which becometh women professing godliness) with good works."

    Now there is no arguing with this, it is the word of Timothy inspired by our Lord and Savior. Jesus Christ will judge all and will not accept your justifications. While you may be able to convince yourself or others that your indecency is all and well, God is not fooled. He knows all and sees all. If two women stood before God, one dressed in a plain wholepeice swimsuit showing all her form and shape, and the other dressed in one of the swimsuits shown above, in which her form is concealed; who do you think he would be more pleased with? You see life here on earth is not for our pleasure, but for us to give glory and honor to God. There is no way around this. For all of you who will comment back and say that I am wrong, it makes no matter. It is not my OPINION, but the word of GOD. Are you greater than GOD? No, there is none greater. And for those trying to walk in the old path where in is the good way, I commend you and may the grace and peace of God be with you.

  296. #296
    Cathy said on September 16, 2007 | Reply

    Here I was just looking for some "modest" swimwear to cover my far-less-than-perfect body and I come across this website during my search. I'm old enough (almost 65) to NOT care what other people think, but young enough to care how I look in a bathing suit. We're going on a vacation in Dec. and I want to join my hubby in a natural hot spring and maybe even the pools we encounter. No way I can lose weight & tone up enough in time remaining and I would be embarrassed to let it all hang out! Even if I were slim and trim, I'd still prefer modest wear. My granddaughters show too much cleavage, midrift and all to suit my taste.

  297. #297
    Megan said on October 27, 2007 | Reply

    This is absolutely rediculous! You ppl that think preaching about your ideas of modesty is going to change what others think. You are sooo wrong. Most of the time ppl could care less what you have to say. So unless its asked for don't give your oppinions. It makes you look like an idiot and ppl will try to stay away from you. Try telling everyone you meet all your oppinions on modesty and then see how many friends you have!!

  298. #298
    Don said on October 27, 2007 | Reply

    Megan,

    You criticize people for "preaching about your ideas" and that it makes people "look like an idiot" because it won't "change what others think." Have you ever heard of the concept of hypocrisy? I think you might be amazed to find your picture next to the definition if you bothered to look it up. You are doing exactly what you are criticizing others for doing, but just on a different topic.

    Using your exact words, criticisms and creative spelling: "You...think preaching about your ideas of [what people should comment about] is going to change what others think. You are sooo wrong. Most of the time ppl could care less what you have to say. So unless its asked for don't give your oppinions. It makes you look like an idiot and ppl will try to stay away from you. Try telling everyone you meet all your oppinions on [what people should comment about] and then see how many friends you have!!"

    While I might agree that very few opinions are changed by what people say on the internet, what about people who haven't yet formed an opinion? Might such comments be useful to such people as they learn, explore and develop their own ideas about modesty or even the topic of what people should post and comment about on the internet? Or, do you believe everyone's opinions are genetically formed at birth and nothing they see or hear could ever influence them? Please, the next time you think about commenting, just take your own advice.

  299. #299
    Megan said on October 28, 2007 | Reply

    don,

    no, i am not being hypocritical. i am simply stating a fact. i don't know very many ppl that like to be preached to about other ppl opinions, so i was sharing that with everyone on this blog thing. i was not criticizing anyone.

  300. #300
    Beth said on October 29, 2007 | Reply

    Personally, I would not wear these suits, but I think they are cute. I don't think they are all that unfashionable; they don't look too different from today's dresses.
    The reason why I wouldn't wear these suits is I am at least a quasi-serious swimmer and I don't think I would like all that fabric. But I also live where it is sunny, hot, sunburn country, and my hubby likes to call the people that spend all day out uncovered "Members of the melanoma club. No sense." I happen to agree with him. I am thinking of getting a type of suit that started out in Australia, called a Stingray, that has short or long sleeves and legs, and a high neckline, for next summer. I'm tired of getting burns.

  301. #301
    Don said on October 29, 2007 | Reply

    Megan,

    Your exact words were, "It makes you look like an idiot." How can you argue now that you were "not criticizing anyone"? That makes no sense, telling someone they look like an idiot IS criticizing them.

    As to whether you were be hypocritical you argue you were "simply stating a fact." Does it not occur to you that what is a fact to you might only be an opinion to someone else?

    Finally, you say that you, "don't know very many ppl that like to be preached to about other ppl opinions." Hello...is this thing on...tap, tap, tap...YOU are preaching to other people about your opinions!!! Do you not see this?!?!?

  302. #302
    Megan said on October 30, 2007 | Reply

    don, when the majority of the population agrees with "my opinion", i think that makes it more than just "my opinion". i know quite a few families who have tried to push their ideas on my family. the only thing they succeed in doing is pushing ppl away from them. i have personal experience. and also i am talking about social behavior. everyone else here is talking about how they interpret the bible. two completely different things. social graces are something that everyone cares to hear about because everyone wants to be accepted socially. everyone i know hates having other ppl talk AT them about modesty especially.

  303. #303
    Don said on October 30, 2007 | Reply

    Megan,

    You said, "the majority of the population agrees with 'my opinion.'" Which opinion is that, the one where you said calling people idiots does not fall under the category of criticism, or something else?

    I know, you were talking about being preachy about modesty, which is akin to being preachy about morality which...hello...is exactly what one is supposed to be preach about. The fact that it makes people uncomfortable and they don't like it is not reason to stop, rather, it is likely an indicator that it is the exact message they need to hear.

    What kind of sheep uses the "majority of the population" argument? Right and wrong do not ebb and flow with public opinion. At least that is my opinion. Some, sadly, believe right and wrong are actually determined by wetting their finder and putting it in the air to see which way public opinion is blowing. Oh look, everyone's doing it, so it must be OK.

    Look around you, turn on a television or just look how the kids in high school dress and behave. Our nation's problems are not due to an overabundance of modesty and morality...and, yes, they do go hand-in-hand. And don't fall back to the intellectually false argument of, "well in France/Europe they go topless/naked." Those are entirely different cultures with thousands of different variables. You can't just pick and choose a single characteristic and say one culture should adopt it from another. It's like if a Ford car is having trouble, taking one Chevrolet car part and sticking it in the Ford so it will run better. It doesn’t fit, it won’t work.

    Also, you've completely glossed over the whole category of people who are still forming their opinions on modesty and morality. What about them? Do you want to silence the debate so they don't hear a message that you're uncomfortable with?

    I agree some of the people here come off a little strong, but I'm OK with that. I became a Christian in 1987 not as the result of one person but as the result of many. The outdoor campus preacher bellowing at the top of his lungs, the friends who openly had Christ at the center of all their activities, the friends who without pressure invited me to attend services and Bible study with them, the friends who never mentioned God but who quietly lead Godly lives by example, even people who questioned whether there was a God...it took the entire spectrum of people from those over-the-top to those who you would never know were devoted to Christ until you got to be one of their best friends to bring me kicking and screaming to the Lord. Everyone posting above, loud mouthed holier-than-thous, to quiet encouragers, to pagan mockers, all play a role in the discussion about modesty and morality. THAT is freedom of speech, that is what this nation is all about, that is an ideal which is worth dying for and for which people have died for. You are free to continue to express yourself in the marketplace of ideas, but don’t be surprised if nobody is buying what you’re selling.

    Finally, you mention "social graces." Are those the one that teach you to call people idiots? You say, "social graces are something that everyone cares to hear about," but that is just you opinion...NOT fact...which you can't see because you are all about being accepted, you are so concerned with following the heard and doing what is socially accepted, if tomorrow everyone wore the swim-dresses above, from all the Hollywood stars, to all your cool friends, you'd wear one too, because as you admit "everyone wants to be accepted socially." I have absolutely no idea how old you are but you sound like a 13 year-old whose decisions are all made for her by her peers. You say that "everyone wants to be accepted socially" like it's some kind of positive thing...it's the PROBLEM. People are far too wrapped up in being accepted socially instead of wanting to do the right thing.

  304. #304
    Megan said on October 30, 2007 | Reply

    in reference to your last paragraph.....who are you to tell me what i am like?? what do you know??? oh wait .....nothing!!!!! you are probably like what 60 yrs old. you said:

    "you are all about being accepted, you are so concerned with following the heard and doing what is socially accepted, if tomorrow everyone wore the swim-dresses above, from all the Hollywood stars, to all your cool friends, you'd wear one too".

    what a stupid thing to say! how on earth would you know. oh wait probably beacause you're old and think you can guess ppls personalities by what you interpret them to be saying. so first of all.....you are completely wrong. and it pisses me off the way you think you are sooooo right. so let me say what you sound like. you sound like you are a 60 yr old guy that probably doesn't have many friends and doesnt have anything better to do than sit at the computer and make up stupid blogs. well i do have better things to do so goodbye!

  305. #305
    Don said on November 18, 2007 | Reply

    Megan,

    I totally forgot to respond...losing my memory with old age. You know how I know you are young because you think calling someone 60 is insulting. You sound so foolish. 60-year-olds are probably near their peak in intellectual capacity with a lifetime of learning and experience yet likely suffering few ill effects of the aging process.

    I cannot guess people's personalities, I can only draw reasonable conclusions based on the facts available which was all I did. And, I stand by my conclusion that you follow the heard or that you rebel by engaging in peer-approved rebellious actions...same thing. Admittedly, I not only have your above statements to go by but, I'm also playing the odds as such describes 95% of youth.

    You further indicate your youthful age by thinking you are insulting me by saying I probably don't have many friends. As you grow older you will realize it is not the quantity of friends you have that is important but, rather, the quality. And, I'll put the quality of my friends against anyone's any day.

    Lastly, you again attempt to insult me by saying that I probably don't have much better to do than sit at the computer and make up stupid blogs. The only thing I could imagine more indicative of someone without something better to do is posting four times over four days on someone else's stupid blog.

    When I was still in school I interviewed a highly successful man in the twilight of his career who had been a part of the administration of several U.S. Presidents. He could see that I was clearly in awe of his accomplishments. At the conclusion, he stated that he was envious of me. I, of course, asked why. He said he was envious of my youth. Megan, enjoy your youth...it will not last.

  306. #306
    renee said on November 19, 2007 | Reply

    hi everyone,

    i just read most of the comments. most of the people on here are very kind in the way the give their opinions but some of you have been less than kind.

    i just finished reading the conversation between i think it was megan and don. i have something to say to don....megan was telling everyone what she thought just like everyone else on this blog. there are some harsher people that have posted on here. but you didn't respond to them. i really disagree with the way you "spoke" to her. if you really believe that she is a young girl (and i am not making any assumtions here) then you should as much as possible try to build her up. basically you took every part of her entries and insulted her about them. from her being young and sounding foolish to the fact that you don't think that she can make her own decisions.

    i was once a young girl and i know what comments like yours can do to girls that are still developing their minds. you need to encourage them not insult them the way you did. she may have insulted you as well but we both know that you are probably the older person here. i am really confused as to why you would speak to someone that way, especially since you think she is so young.

    the next time you comment on someones entry think about what you are doing.

    -Renee

  307. #307
    Don said on November 19, 2007 | Reply

    Renee,

    I responded to Megan because of her own insults and combined use of absolutes and hypocrisy made her stand out. I can actually see both sides of the debate here, after all I'm the one who originally mocked the swimsuits but, at the same time, generally defend those who support modesty and want to wear such or similar suits.

    Megan, however, as she was so willing to tell the world, feels she is in possession of the absolute answer to complex issues for which there is no absolute answer and, as I said, what struck my interest is the hypocritical and insulting way she pointed it out.

    Megan was not just telling everyone what she thought. In just her first post, she called people "idiots" in addition to instructing others they were "ridiculous," "wrong" and that "people could care less what they have to say." In fact her entire first post is nearly devoid of any sharing of her opinion other than her attack of others...and that is what sparked me to respond. If I insulted her, it was only in response to her first use of insults. Renee, you sound reasonable enough except in light of Megan’s first comment on October 27, 2007. Did you really read that one?

    As to your suggestion that I should "build her up" if I though she was a young girl, Megan is either very young and then it is her parents' responsibility not mine to protect her...remember she came to my site, I did not seek her out. Or, she is of sufficient maturity to surf the internet and enter into dialog with strangers whom she knows nothing about. If the latter, then I have no obligation to build up strangers who post to my blog. She can earn her own real self-esteem and build herself up by not entering into discussions by first attacking everyone but rather by making coherent arguments based on accurate premises and logical conclusions. I have no obligation to sugarcoat my response to someone who starts out and continued as Megan did.

    Neither of us really know if Megan is a cross-dressing octogenarian hermaphrodite or an emotionally driven pre-teen girl. By any measure of what is available on the internet, my comments would have to fall within the moderate range and, if such comments really have the potential to cause harm, then I suggest whoever is Megan's keepers are not doing their job.

    I once saw a story on one of the one hour "news" shows about raising children and for one of the families showcased they interviewed the adult children who all recounted how at the dinner table no one could just make some unsupported statement, they always had to argue (not yelling argue, but debate style argue) their points. The children (I don't remember how many 5 or 6 I think) all grew up to be doctors and credited their family's no nonsense style of dinner debate/discussion for their success in life. I point this out because maybe you are right and I should have coddled Megan and "built her up"...or...maybe, she's been coddled too much and, instead, needs a swift dose of the first thing you say shouldn't be an insult and learn to defend and support the statements you make.

    With all that said, I'm not infallible and do appreciate your comments. Megan could learn a little from your style and method of presenting an opinion.

  308. #308
    Renee said on November 24, 2007 | Reply

    Don,

    I just wanted to bring this Bible verse to your attention. I am not saying you must protect her or that you should build her up merely because she is young. I am saying that my God said that we should build each other up.

    1 Thessalonians 5:11 "Therefore encourage one another and build each other up..."

    I am assuming you are a Christian, and so I am sure this verse means something to you. This was my main point in commenting on your conversation with Megan.

    -Renee

  309. #309
    Don said on November 28, 2007 | Reply

    Renee,

    I'm not going to play dueling Bible versus with you. Rather, I'll argue that there is more than one way to build someone up. It is not always best to treat someone with kid gloves. Building someone up who has not earned such treatment can cause more harm than good potentially creating a person with an overly inflated and false sense of self-worth. Lack of ego isn't as great a problem for many/most youth as is lack of humility. Look again at how Megan entered into this discussion. I certainly could be wrong, but building up doesn't seem to be the thing she needed. Her attitude as arbitrator of right and wrong was already sufficiently in the clouds.

    I'll bet my brand of building up is something that she has encountered little and needs more of...that of treating her as an adult and as an equal. I did not cut her any slack, just as with anyone, I held her fully accountable for her own statements and engaged her in argument as an equal. For some, perhaps Megan, perhaps not, that is the precise type of building up that is needed, accountability not cuddling.

  310. #310
    renee said on November 29, 2007 | Reply

    Don,

    I did not say to cuddle anyone. I did not say to treat anyone with kid gloves. I also did not say to build up her ego.

    These were your exact words:

    "Building someone up who has not earned such treatment can cause more harm than good potentially creating a person with an overly inflated and false sense of self worth."

    So what you just said is that you don't treat others how the Bible tells us until they have earned such treatment. Just because you may not think she is worthy of such treatment does not make it okay to disregard God's word. You are not the one to judge when you can obey your Creator.

    You did not engage Megan in a conversation as an equal. You degraded her publicly. She may have degraded you as well but that is no excuse to disregard what is clearly stated in God's word. I do not agree with the way she presented her opinions or the way she spoke to everyone on this website. If i had a way of telling her this I would. But I do not.


    -Renee

  311. #311
    Don said on November 29, 2007 | Reply

    First, let me say that I fail miserably every day to live up to God's word. With that fact established let me continue...

    You're falling into the same fallacy that Megan did...that your subjective opinion is objective fact. Despite how strongly you feel to the contrary, your opinion that my actions were not biblically appropriate is just that, your s-u-b-j-e-c-t-i-v-e opinion.

    Of course we cannot pick and choose when to obey God's laws, but I don't believe countering Megan's comments in the manner that I did was volatile of His word. Can we not agree to disagree on that. On this issue, I can even admit that I may be wrong...can you? Or, are you so certain of your ability to interpret and apply God's word that there is no chance that your opinion, because it is so strongly held, cannot possibly be wrong?

    I hate when people overly focus on one biblical passage. Taking your citation and comments, a logical conclusion is that a Christian could never throw someone in jail because that's obviously not encouraging them and building them up. But, I argue that it is precisely the type of encouragement and building up some people need. Likewise, I believe, my comments were precisely the type of response Megan needed.

    And again, despite your denials, I treated Megan as an equal, perhaps better. If a friend/coworker had walked into my office and started off in the same way Megan had, my response would have been at least as strong and likely peppered with more colorful words and phrases, if you know what I mean. The more I think about it, where do you get off telling me how I treat my equals??? You have no idea whatsoever! You want a list of emails of friends that will tell you that I treated Megan much more politely than if they had tried to pull the same crap?

    Despite popular myth, God does not call on us to be a bunch of milquetoast Mr. Rogers. There is nothing un-Christian in being aggressive and countering someone in a strong and forceful manner when the situation calls for it. You and I simply disagree on whether it was called for. When I die, even with all eternity, it will be quite some time before the good Lord gets down his list of things to discuss with me before he gets to, "So, what's up with the way you treated that Megan commenter?"

  312. #312
    Renee said on November 30, 2007 | Reply

    Don-

    Yes I think we can agree to disagree. I have stated my opinion and I have nothing more to say.

    -Renee

  313. #313
    Chelsea said on December 7, 2007 | Reply

    hahahahaha!! this sight is pretty funny. i was just looking for bathing suits online...i didn't know i would come across something like this!! some of the ppl on here wrote like an entire paper on their beliefs. thats fine i guess...but im just wondering why you would take the time to do that!!!! im not judging anyone, i am just saying that i think its funny ;)

  314. #314
    Don said on December 8, 2007 | Reply

    Chelsea,

    Sometimes people find humor in others...because of their own insecurities. Not you, of course, but perhaps you can image the person who at some level knows these are the types of suits they should be wearing or that they want to wear but they also know they'd be ridiculed if they wore them. So, instead of admitting to themselves that they are afraid to do what's right or what they really want, they subconsciously suppress those feeling and overcompensate on a conscious level by ridiculing those who do wear them. Do some research about "cognitive dissonance." You may find it very enlightening...not about you of course...but about others who might find so much humor in these swimsuits.

    As to why people "take the time to" write "like an entire paper"...same reason you took the time to write a short comment. They had something to say and the length of their comment probably coincides with the strength of their convictions. Nothing unusual...or humorous there.

  315. #315
    Christina said on January 1, 2008 | Reply

    I'm a supporter of modest swimwear!

    I happened to chance upon this website and I'm amazed! That's so cool!
    I thought its impossible to find a modest swimsuit for girls nowadays.. but hey, you got it! Praise the Lord!

  316. #316
    Gela said on February 3, 2008 | Reply

    I have been looking for modest bathing suits for my daughter and me. Personally I wouldn't care to wear this style for the sake of comfort and swimming ability. I agree with an earlier poster who said it would be difficult to swim in this suit (we do our swimming in a pool). I can't imagine my six year old being able to swim very well with this much material, nor would I want to try. Now if we lived near an ocean and played on the beach a lot, this suit might be just the thing we would need.

    What is underneath the outer dress....looks like a body suit perhaps? I would love to find something along those lines (just the body suit) for my child. I like that the leg portion is long, might be better if it were just above the knee - again for comfort and ease of use.

    I was searching the web for bathing suit information and was surprised at what I found at this website, particularly replies by some who say they are Christians. There is no justification for any type of hateful reply from a Christian just because another person has stated his or her opinion and it happens to differ from your own. I don't know of a single scripture that lends itself to this type of speech from Bible believing Christians. Jesus was treated horribly; He endured so much for us. We are called to endure for Him.

    Christian, when someone says something you don't agree with, speak kindly or speak nothing at all. Jesus did not speak against His accusers. How will we win the lost if our behaviour and speech do not edify? Why would a lost person ever desire to be in the body of Christ if we Christians have nothing better to offer them than what the world offers?

  317. #317
    Kate said on February 29, 2008 | Reply

    I dont want to be rude in anyway, but it intrests me so much to know why you think it matters so much to be that coverd up. When I go swiming I just wear a modest one piece with shorts over it. and belive there are pleanty of girls at the pool or on the beach wearing almost nothing for the guys to look at i think if you just wear a one piece with shorts you will be fine, but thays just my opinion

  318. #318
    Joy said on March 7, 2008 | Reply

    www.diviinemodestee.com modest yet attractive. not to be rude our friends make some like that but they are just plain ugly.

  319. #319
    Joy said on March 7, 2008 | Reply

    To all the people who wear head coverings and think this is a wonderful swimsuit I am not trying to offend anyone. www.modest-swimwear.net This is almost the same thing as the swimsuits on this site but it is alot more attractive. It not like i'm trying to vain but why try and dress ugly or draw attention to your self with puffy things on at the beach? I mean you can dress modest and be in style. All the people who think this is a great swimsuit I hate to think of what yall look like in day to day clothes. Saggy tee shirts, ankle length skirts, and your hair coverd every day? Is it wrong to show your knees? Is it wrong to wear a fitted shirt? Is it wrong to wear jeans? But at least yall are modest.

    For all you who think guys should be coverd w/ shirts when they swim, yall are weird. guys should not have there swim shorts falling off or any thing but they don't need shirts.

    To wear a bikini is wrong, because guys are very visible and it's very hard for guys not to lust with girls flirting and freely giving themselves out to every guy who walks by. Girls who wear bikinis are the girls who my brothers turn away from because why would you want a girl whos already showed her body to hundreds of people? why not walk the beach nude? the bikini is so clingy that it covers up nothing, just makes it a color in a guys mind.

    I am 14 years old and I have been wearing skirtted tankinis (which are very modest) ever since i was 12 and now i can't make myself wear a one piece without shorts.

    My whole point is you need to be modest because God wants us too, but we don't have to go to the extrem and try and draw attention to ourselves in a weird way.

    Oh and by the way #282 "w" I look very HOT in a bikini the reason i am modest is because I am a christian and even if i wasn't going topless would freak me out. And MArk #273 the reason we go with clothes is because God has told us to cover ourselves. I'll find it in the scripture if you want me to.

    and mel#254...

    Mel said on April 30, 2007:
    Well...I'm beautiful, young and I'm hot. I am lucky to have a skinny perfect body, long legs, flat stomach, and a great figure... and I can eat whatever I want and still stay like super skinny. So I am going to relish in my beautiful youth and wear sexy bikinis because I am confident and they make me feel confident. Other men can lust but who cares, in their dreams right, HA! They'll never have me, only my awesome boyfriend who super approves of what I wear as is. So blah, that's just my opinion.


    I'm beautiful, yung, hot and skinny but I cover my self up like God wants me to. I'm saving my body for my husband who will be a virgin also. What kind of boyfriend do you want? The boyfriend you have will leave you when a better-looking girl who wants to give her body away comes along, and if he does not (which im sure he will) then when you get old and wrinkled he will leave you then. Are you planing on getting married? If so are you going to chose a husband like you did your boy friend? If so then your going to have a horrible marriag wich will probabley end up in a divorice. And about all the other yung men out their you've already tempted, doesn't it make you sad that you've made them stumble? I just want to know why you wear a bikini. doesn't every other girl out their have a crotch and breasts? Well,I feel sorry for you because you're going to have a lot of baggage when you finaly want to settle down and get married. The guy I want will want me for my inner beauty. He will love me even If I wear this swimsuit or if I get fat, old, or wrinkled. He will love my heart and when we get married he will also love my body for after were married I'm his and it is not wrong to show your body to him. But that might be hard for you. To be commited to one person for the rest of your life.well ive said enough for now because it's 11:00 at night and need rest.


    People the judgment day is comming. we already have a muslim running for vice president. Gay marriges. man I can't wait till the rapture because I hate this world.

    Your sister in Christ,
    Joy

  320. #320
    joy said on March 8, 2008 | Reply

    All you people who have nothing to say but negitive don't say anything at all. And yall who don't have a clue what modesty is, I wonder how yall found this site in the first place. yall obveously were not trying to find modest swimsuits.

  321. #321
    joy said on March 8, 2008 | Reply

    www.swimmodest.com Very cuite!!

  322. #322
    joy said on March 8, 2008 | Reply

    www.wholesomewear.com

    They arn't very ugly on this sight.

  323. #323
    mary said on March 8, 2008 | Reply

    I was searching the internet for "modest" clothing when I came upon this. I am shocked at the anomosity of the comments on here. Why is that? I don't understand why people feel threatened when someone wants to raise the standards. These suits are a little more extreme than I was looking for. I am looking for something sporty like shorts and a spandex tank top. BUT, I would a whole lot rather see someone wearing one of these suits than the nakedness we have to endure every summer. We live in such an immoral society. You can't even take your children to the grocery anymore for the filth on the magazine rack. I say if you want to go to this level of modesty.... To God Be The Glory!!!!

  324. #324
    JO said on March 13, 2008 | Reply

    I appreciate the links to the modest swimwear websites. It is very difficult to find swimwear that actually covers the parts that God only meant to be enjoyed by my spouse. As for the women who are lamenting over men making all the choices, I find it amazing how feminist thinking has so far infiltrated supposed "Christian" thinking. Everyone of us has an authority to submit to, whether some like it or not. If it is not your husband you are submitting to now, be sure you will submit to God one day. How funny that most women don't mind obeying every word their male boss at work says, but that squawk at any suggestion their husband might make, claiming it infringes on their "personal identity." As for the other comments about the poor girls left at home with no college, no kisses, etc., I have to say to those who might be frustrated with that mentality to remember that apart from God we have no knowledge. They will never know, nor understand the peace that true purity in God brings apart from His grace bestowing it on them. Test everything - hold fast to what is good.

  325. #325
    William said on May 13, 2008 | Reply

    There is a need for a modest bathing suit for men and boys to serve both the needs of public modesty and the practical reality of swimming in some pools and open waters.

    At one time boys and men were expected to cover both the top and bottom. The swimming suits were practical especially for cold waters and lessons. I have taught swimming for a long time and many times I have seen both men and boys shivering in the water and pool decks. This style should be encouraged again. Either a suit with a separate top and briefs of a one piece form fitting suit that the boy or man can slip into from the top. Broad straps would cover the upper torso and the suit could be vented on the side. This would be ideal for those early morning swimming lessons and swimming in lakes and situations where modest attire is more acceptable. A sample like this would look very athletic on all men and boys.

    http://www.gutenberg.org/files/19065/19065-h/images/illus195.jpg

  326. #326
    ellen said on May 27, 2008 | Reply

    why dont the boys and men just wear swim shorts and a swim shirt you can get at target? not some weird outfit? swim shorts are more modest then that tight leo.. you know what i mean?

  327. #327
    esther rothman said on June 8, 2008 | Reply

    hooray for modest, comfy suits!

    Great spf coverage too. Lots of religious Jews wear similar items. I just bought one from modestswimwear4u.com. You can also check out frumfashion.com, or aquamodesta.com....

    I think alot of the modest suits are newer to the market. The more support the get the better and more fashionable they will become. But yes...in the mean time they do leave a bit to be desired fashion wise.

    For me it is most important to keep the Jewish laws of modesty while at the same time being accepting and loving of others. I feel comfortable covering my hair and body and hope to lead others by my happy example.

  328. #328
    K. Garrison said on June 29, 2008 | Reply

    I think the idea of the whole modest thing is great!! I'm a Christian and i appreciate anyone offering modest swimsuits!

  329. #329
    Jonathan said on August 24, 2008 | Reply

    I'm all for more modest bathing suits for guys. Speedos and shorts are cold in the early summer. You need a tight top to go with them. The top should not impede the arms though because you might have to swim faster to rescue a girl swimmer or someone.

  330. #330
    Judith said on August 31, 2008 | Reply

    I can't find anything wrong with these swimsuits, particularly since they also come in extended-length http://www.wholesomewear.com/slimmer-c.html

    Covered elbows and knees.

    Yes, I wear these, and other covering suits from places like
    Aqua Modesta http://www.aquamodesta.net/3-2604B-1%20styles.html (Jewish) and also http://www.primomoda.com (Muslim -- sportswear section down today, but you can click in Sportswear and then Swimwear).

    Why would I "do this to myself?" Religion aside, because I've got extremely sun-sensitive skin that will burn after about 15 unprotected minutes in the sunlight. And yet, I still have the nerve to think that I have the right to enjoy swimming in the summertime or whenever I go on a cruise. I'm not going to pay a couple thousand dollars to enjoy the Caribbean, and not go for a dip in that gorgeous, warm ocean!

  331. #331
    Iain said on October 6, 2008 | Reply

    What a load of garbage. Why should women wear dresses to swim with? That's like swimming in the Victorian age. Civilization has moved on a lot since then. As for us guys, Speedos are fine (I'm English and used to a speedo) but if I'm in the States, then I'll swap to shorts as I know culturally Speedos are frowned upon.

    It's quite ridiculous, I will never understand why it is frowned upon in many places for men to go shirtless. What happened to choice? Where is the freedom that this world is supposed to have? Bring back the freedom to go shirtless without recrimination.

  332. #332
    Maddie said on October 10, 2008 | Reply

    I hate theese swimsuits but i found cute modest swimsuit on www.limericki.com

  333. #333
    Sady said on October 10, 2008 | Reply

    I bought one of these swimsuits to make it cuter instead of getting a really expensincive one.I tried to make it feel better and more comfotable, but it didn't work and just kept sticking to my body like glue.

    And it looks hidious even my husband said it looked bad and fat and so did my closest friend. and whwn I went to the beach everybody was laughing and pointing at me.

    SO I GUESS THE BOTTOM LINE IS NEVER BUY THESE SWIMMSUITS!!

  334. #334
    learygirl said on October 12, 2008 | Reply

    But where do you all live!!!!??????!!!!! I've been at the beach with a bikini my entire life, and nobody raped me yet!!!! Where did you get the fact that if someone wears jeans or bathingsuit gets in trouble???? You're paranoid!!! Ok, I'll go back living my "sinful" life...and I don't have aids or pregnancy, you don't have to be Christian to be responsible get it in you narrowed mind!
    PS: i know a girl who's always dressed modest and SHE was raped... human beings are crazy, can't control that

  335. #335
    Sean said on October 25, 2008 | Reply

    Modesty- "freedom from conceit or vanity" -webster

    Modesty should always be attitude, regardless of what you wear. What are your intentions, are you trying to get attention? Today's form of modesty is not real it is learned. In the 1930's four men were arrested for barring their chests at the New Jersey shore.

    In the victorian era piano legs were covered because they resembled women's legs. Yet the brothels were quite busy.

    You should be able to be modest while naked. How many of you ladies would go topless at the beach? In reality, breasts are not sexual. They are designed to feed babies, thats all. Unfortunately they are abused in advertising to sell sell sell.

    In the Garden of Eden after the "fall" of man when the fig leaves were sewn together, the original Greek and Hebrew text reads "chagowr" loin covering or loin cloth, so she remained topless after the sin. She was never ashamed of, or exalted her breasts above their normal status. To her, they were no different than her foot or her elbow.

    The "stumbling block" is not in your attire, the stumbling comes from incorrect teaching. The Bible states that you are not to add to it or take away from it. Thats what the Pharrisee's did.

    According to most of you here, if I were a gynecologist I'd be going to hell. Let's put our bodies into perspective, just a vessel, to do his work.

    Let's say your mother, father or brother became disabled, you may have to bathe them. Would you have evil thoughts? No. How about changing a two year old's diaper. Any evil thoughts there, of course not. Do not be in bondage about your body or the bodies around you. Purify your hearts and you thoughts will be pure.

    Your body holds your soul, contains it. When you look at someone, look not at their shell look inside we are all the same. This is just my opinion but I beleive that's what God sees. If we see everybody as a sexual being we've missed the only thing that matters.

    If we (MEN and women)were taught to see through this body all the shame would end. Racism would end. Prejudice would end. Male or Female, Fat or skinny, big or little is all irrelevent. Just be healthy.

    Food for thought:
    If you found a naked human about to die, do you save their soul or your eyes?

  336. #336
    sara said on November 20, 2008 | Reply

    I think women should be able to wear what they want, whether it be modest swimwear or a string bikini. Stop judging people, just do your own thing. Don't try to control other people. I couldn't believe it when I read a comment saying women who wear bikinis are "selfish". If you don't want to wear one, that's fine, but don't disrespect women who do. And I say any man who can't control himself needs to stop being so perverted and get some morals.

  337. #337
    RShell said on December 9, 2008 | Reply

    I find it a bit sad that there is so much talk here supporting one's choice of faith and one's personal desire to be modest- yet wearing a burka is called a "ridiculous extreme"..

    so- it seems covering up in support of your faith is wonderful- but covering up 'more' in support of another faith is ridiculous and extreme.


  338. #338
    hmmm... said on December 9, 2008 | Reply

    I can't imagne those are comfortable. I would think all that wet fabric would be so heavy and clingy. It would drive me crazy.

  339. #339
    Brittany said on March 12, 2009 | Reply

    Wow, a lot of comments with so many different feelings behind them. I am 15 and I have to say I wouldn't wear one of these suites. Yet the Lord has convicted me about my swim wear choices. I wouldn't walk around in my under wear in front of strangers, or wear really short shorts and a super tight shirt. So why do I feel comfortable wearing those things while swimming? I think because myself and a lot of other people are afraid to be different. We are afriad to stand out and we are afraid of not being accepted by the world. Yet I have decided to start wearing a modest swim suit, one that covers more than a one piece does.

    Not only because I feel that's what the Lord wants me to do, but also because I love my fellow brothers. I noticed a lot of women on here were complaining about being able to wear what they want to wear, and that guys should stop being sick and control themselves. I disagree with that. The Lord has wired them so that they are visual. Yes they can control themselves and thier thoughts, but do you know how hard that is when you are flaunting your body in front of them?

    If your best friend was trying to stay off of suger for awhile, would you go up to her and eat chocolate and ice cream in front of her face? Is that being loving towards your friend? God tells us to have love for one another. I don't believe that dressing imodestly is loving our brothers. Therefore I admire you women who are willing to glorify God by wearing the suit above, and I encourage all you other sisters to look at our brothers around us and love them. Pray and ask the Lord about what your wearing, He will convict you if you need change. Don't be afraid to stand out. =)

  340. #340
    Jessica said on March 13, 2009 | Reply

    I just wanted to comment on the post about the lack of rapes occuring when people dressed more modestly. Rape wasn't a crime until I believe the 70s. Men were allowed to rape their wives beyond this time as well.
    If you want to be modest then good for you but making other girls who are comfortable with wearing something else we aren't asking for rape.

  341. #341
    anonymous said on March 16, 2009 | Reply

    I do not care what people wear to the beach. They can be nude or they can wear a trash bag. Its not my business. I am just curious though, does anyone wear modest bathing suits that is not a Christian? I am just wondering.....

  342. #342
    Tommy said on March 19, 2009 | Reply

    A more modest swimsuit will keep boys warm especially in cold ponds and pools. The tight legsuit with a supporter will address the issue and allow the boys to swim in comfort. A cap could also be added to help identify swimmers.

  343. #343
    Alicia said on April 1, 2009 | Reply

    oh wow....one lady on here said she doesn't let her kids go swimming in mixed company....

    stop living in fear. holy crap. your kids are going to need to be able to interact with the opposite sex, period! swimming is a very healthy way for kids to hang out and have a wonderful time. what are you afraid is going to happen?? the only thing that is going to happen is that you will teach your children to look upon guys as "evil creatures that we're not allowed to interact with". that is so unhealthy its not even funny. god made boys as well as girls. he made human beings so we could interact with each other!! not so parents can separate the two different sexes. of course each boy and girl should be taught how to interact properly with the opposite sex. but that is not accomplished by separating them.

    so if swimming together is not allowed then were do you stop? how about they cant come to your childs birthday party? or how about we just don't have anyone of a different sex over to the house. you are living in fear.

    if you do your job right as a parent, then swimming with the opposite sex will never be an issue that needs to be addressed. its all in the way your kids comport themselves. I'm a mom of 3 beautiful girls and they are all growing up to be beautiful Godly women. and guess what?! they have gone swimming with boys in the pool!!

  344. #344
    Amy said on April 27, 2009 | Reply

    I didn't read all of the comments here, but I read a good deal of them. What I didn't see addressed very much is that people just plain have varying levels of what they're comfortable showing or not showing or wearing or not wearing. I am not a Christian. I am not a member of any religion that suggests women have any responsibility to dress modestly. Yet, I do dress fairly modestly, compared to a lot of people. I don't believe there is anything shameful about bodies and, actually, in my own home I'm quite happy with minimal clothes on. I don't believe there is anything shameful about sex before marriage. But I don't think there is anything wrong with waiting until marriage, if that is what someone feels is right for themself, either.

    Anyway, it's not my responsibility to dress modestly for anyone or anything outside of myself, but neither is it my responsibility to look good or sexy or attractive for anyone or anything outside of myself. I may choose to dress in a certain manner for a significant other, etc., but not because they should be judging me based on that, but because I care about that person and want to please them in that manner. That said, my boyfriend loves me regardless of what I wear or how I look, as I love him regardless of what he wears or how he looks.

    Truth is, there are certain things that we may have to dress certain ways for, if we want to receive certain responses/results -- dressing appropriately for a job interview, for instance. I could certainly dress however I chose for that, but what I'm wearing will be judged and could play into the results I recieve (getting the job or not).

    But, when I am not attempting to receive a certain result, such as a job, I don't have any obligation to dress a certain way just to fit into other people's aesthetic beliefs. So if what I feel comfortable in for swimming is a dress or outfit along the lines of those linked to here, I should feel free to wear it. I *should* be free to wear it without worrying about derisive comments, just like someone wearing an extremely skimpy suit should be free to wear it without receiving derisive comments. Unfortunately, the truth of the matter is that probably both would elicit such comments. But why do we feel compelled to put these kind of judgements/comments on people?

    My reaction upon seeing extremely simpy suit would probably be something along the lines of *thinking* "wow, I would never feel comfortable wearing that in public." But I wouldn't tell anyone else that they shouldn't wear it in public. But what I have seen here is people saying "Wow, those suits are ugly and anyone who wears them is stupid for holding beliefs that lead them to wear them." (Alternately, I've seen many coments along the lines of "God/Jesus/The Bible leads me to wear modest clothing and you're inappropriate because you don't, and you're leading men into sin." (I agree with those who have said, essentially, that men are responsible for their own "sins," and women aren't responsible for dressing a certain way just to help save them from it.)

    Anyway, When are people going to let go and let people make their own choices for their own lives. The defensiveness I see on both sides makes me think that many people feel, deep down, that if someone makes a different choice than they do, then it must be a challenge to their own choices/that somehow that other person must be calling their own choices wrong. If I want to wear the suit that is in discussion here, who cares?!

  345. #345
    Anonymous said on April 29, 2009 | Reply

    I'm glad to know there are some Christian people out there who feel like I do about modesty. Sometimes I feel like the only one who cringes at the things talked about and shown on reg. TV, and I hate to go to the beach. Some mentioned here about shame or fear, but it isn't about being ashamed or proud of how your body looks, nor is it fear about what might happen! One young girl said it very well I thought. I can't remember everything, but she said," I hate when men look at me that way". I hate it too. I like for a guy to look at me with respect. I like to feel like he is looking into my heart, not into my clothes. Sometimes I think woman can be so naive! No, there is no excuse for guys to be lustful!! But, You woman esp., that are married, know that men are aroused a lot quicker and differently than you are. The culture really trumps that up, causing men who get ensnared in it to become more and more selfish, rough, and uncaring towards woman, as they get used to fulfilling themselves with" quick fixes." The word of God says sex is supposed to be mutual. God did not create sex for men and woman are the tools to get it! People say, men are more sexual. But the reason people think that is because men are aroused so quickly, and a lot of men have never learned to have a caring attitude in this regard, to acually give their woman the experience of her life for her to find out that she is sexual after all! Woman don't respond to lust, they respond to love! I say all this, to say, when are we ever going to stand up as woman and say enough is enough?! If we dress in a "quick fix" way, then all we do is encourage the "quick fix" mentallity which really isn't about us at all. It isn't a compliment, women! If you get that kind of look from a guy, it isn't about you! 2 seconds later he'll be drooling over the next body, and then the next, and then the next., all the while the first girl think he's taken with her. I always say if you catch a guy with your body then you will have to live with wandering eyes. Women, we have incredible value apart from our bodies!! We would do better to teach our sons to value girls for what they are on the inside. To look at her character rather than her curves. I shake my head and am baffled at the womans lib movement idea that we have come so far and we are so liberated, yet we have no qualms about sprawling our bodies before men seamingly totally naive to the fact that we are being degraded and used! Why don't we stand up with dignity and respect, and not accept this from the world, asking a man to truely love and respect us as a person?! I will teach my son to see women the way God desires for him to see them, with love, respect, tenderness, in all purity. They don't know this on their own. If you don't set the example or teach them, the world will. I will teach my daughter to see herself that way, and not to dress or act in a way that would be demeaning. Although I,m not sure I would wear a bathing suit quite like those pictured, it is so refreshing to see, and to find that there are some people out there who care!

  346. #346
    Bianca B c said on June 2, 2009 | Reply

    ha ha! my dad would love me to wear these bathing suits. good thing he never saw them when i was younger or he would have bought it. lol

    yes in all truth i guess it is good for people that dont want to show too much. options are always good.

  347. #347
    Breiga said on June 9, 2009 | Reply

    lulz there is no god people >:3

  348. #348
    Pam said on June 13, 2009 | Reply

    Modesty is a great blessing to all those who surround a person. I just returned from a shopping trip and was saddened by the attire of many of the women and young girls. I highly regard modesty as a virtue that is in much need of being taught to our children. Have any of you looked at some of the other options for modest swimwear? Modest swimwear doesn't have to be frumpy and unfashionable just modest. Try www.modestycounts.com You will be pleasantly surprised!

  349. #349
    Believer rather than Christian replied to Deidra and Drew on July 2, 2009 | Reply

    It is funny how shame one feels if they are spotted in their underwear, they run and hide or try to cover themselves up, but that same person feels fine wearing the same or less material when its called a bikini or one piece suit- to me it still a bra and panty or a body slimmer with some color. Just becuase others are doing it doesn't change the fact that you are still walking around half naked. So, if a person want to cover up more let them and U- don't worry about it just like you would want them to not worry about the life you choose to live. Some poeple are just more consistant in their beliefs than others and apply the rules of logic.

  350. #350
    Beleiver rather that Christian said on July 2, 2009 | Reply

    People are so funny. You know some of you have criticized how people choose to dress. You judge them and feel you have the right to control what they choose by criticism. U know who you are whether conservative Christian or liberal Christian it is all wrong not according to me but the word of God. U do you and let God deal with you. Personally, I like covering up and it does not make a difference if you are a size 2 or 22. I will say this, if you like walking around in your bra and panties on the beach go right ahead cause I ain’t thinkin’ about what you got on cause I am trying to enjoy myself. I will say just because everybody is doing it does not mean that you should feel better about doing it too. Pretty soon people will be completely naked on public beaches and soon as one start some of you will lose the bit of shame you do have. The more popular it becomes we will be having this conversation again and those who choose modestly (because they like a bikini rather than total nudity) will be call prude and old fashion. Don’t shake your heads that is just history repeating itself. People like to feel free to do whatever and they don’t like to think that someone disagrees with them-wonder why?

  351. #351
    Just1girl said on July 7, 2009 | Reply

    Aww, I love these swimsuits, My big sister is Pentecostal, and always swam in a dress, I'mma prolly buy this for her, heh.


  352. #352
    Woody said on July 15, 2009 | Reply

    I respect those who want to be modest by this site's standards. God bless y'all b/c y'all intend not to be a stumbling block to anyone.
    But is modesty really always a dress code, or simply an attitude?
    I wanna be sure what God thinks about nudity, particularly, Christians in hot climates, poor, homeless & without clothes -- namely, a number of early Christians & probably are many Christians today in areas like Africa. True nudists react to seeing a nude body neither by stumbling (nor even so much as staring!) nor by looking away, for they are used to it & think nothing of it. Christian poor folk like I described above tend to have that attitude, for they tend to have no other choice. While not to force religion on anyone, it is acceptable, isn't it, that they react w/ modesty in one's heart & try to please God w/ the resources the do have? What need to panic about resources that they don't have?
    Given that it's okay to be a social nudist & not stumble into sexual sin, I hope my future "juniors" practice that, & that it becomes 2nd nature. I want temptation there to be nothing they're brand new at overcoming, b/c they'll have overcome each time before. I have no bend on changing the way anyone else raises a child, even due to this advice, but I will say this: if you want your (usually male) child to grow up believing that the only way to keep the notion that "the body God created is beautiful" is by loose morality, you'd best hope against all odds that (he) never develops the opinion in quotes. The way I intend is, on the other hand, to use a shelter w/o a "prison", lest I should increase odds of "straddling the fence". I like being effective, not counter-productive. But if there is any Scripture to debunk this method, I'll need to know before I die. I know that if I'm headed for ill means, those even the end cannot justify. I simply intend to (w/ God's help) minimize the spiritual weaknesses of the "juniors" & not corrupt them in the process.
    If this post drags the discussion off topic, I apologize. I'm just trying to be sure I won't be making any mistake in what I plan to do.

  353. #353
    Angela said on July 19, 2009 | Reply

    A modest swimsuit for boys might be modelled on the wrestling singlets.

  354. #354
    A.K. said on July 21, 2009 | Reply

    I like those swimsuits simply because I'm of the variety that keeps burning to a crisp in the sun... However, I do love to swim! Of course, it'd be nicer if they were a bit more stylish. Not FORM FITTING, unless someone wants that (different strokes and all), but I'm not really into form fitting. :-D Ah, and I'm an atheist saying this! We're not all the same obviously. With me it's not about convictions, but about comfort level. I'm not comfortable in form fitting, and I'm not comfortable sizzling to a crisp.

    I have no judgments one way or another about how someone else wants to dress. I might question someone who squeezes into something two sizes too small just so they can say they are that size, but I don't think it makes them a bad person.

  355. #355
    Rose said on July 26, 2009 | Reply

    Here's a swimsuit that I found that might be more what some of you are looking for: http://www.hydrochic.com/ngoswsk.html
    And the home page: http://www.hydrochic.com/index.html

  356. #356
    EMMMeRs said on July 29, 2009 | Reply

    I totally agree with rebecca up there !!!!!!!!!!!!! That's all I have to say.

  357. #357
    cheye said on August 6, 2009 | Reply

    YOU WOULDN'T LET YOUR DAUGHTER GO SWIMMING !!?!??!?!?!!!!??!! thats sad. those are discusting swimsuits. how could you swim in them? there modest, witch is good. but there not cute AT ALL !!!

    if you going to go swimming you should where a swimsuit thats modest AND cute

  358. #358
    Stevie replied to Deidra and Drew on August 9, 2009 | Reply

    I am 26, going on 27, and I still have never even held hands with a boy. I don't even know how to flirt. But who gives a damn? I like the full covering bathing suits.

  359. #359
    Rosie said on September 20, 2009 | Reply

    These replies are hilarious.

    Christians: If you want to wear them, go ahead. If that is what you feel comfortable in then good for you. I'm not going to make fun of you. Don't you be going around calling me a whore though for choosing to dress differently.

    Because I am an agnostic not a christian. I dress somewhat "sexily" and I do wear bikinis. I am not a whore, and if a man "sins" because he's seen me then he is weak minded. I am not responsible for someone else's problems. I am not someone who will have sex with anyone. I do not tempt people to tease them. I wear what I feel comfortable in and I do it for *myself*. I am not being dictated into dressing like a nun when I have no beliefs to tell me that I should. I don't think you should go around insulting people who don't follow your lifestyle and degrading us while still wanting people to respect yours. I won't make fun of you, so don't you put me down/ If you believe your path is the right one then be happy in that knowledge. From what I remember of the bible...isn't it not your place to judge others anyway? Isn't that god's responsibility and not yours?

    I'm 20, I'm sticking with my bikini and if I ever had a daughter she'd wear a one piece suit till she became older. I see tons of little girls in one pice swim shorts and I see nothing sexual or provocative about it.

    This is just amazing XD

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    Kelsie replied to Stentor on October 26, 2009 | Reply

    Nope. Even in the '20s the swimsuits were tight fitting, showed most of the thigh, and all of the shoulders. This is late 1800s style. the only difference is it's not wool, but it's still atrocious and might cause drowning.

  361. #361
    Sarah replied to Rosie on November 6, 2009 | Reply

    "

    These replies are hilarious.

    Christians: If you want to wear them, go ahead. If that is what you feel comfortable in then good for you. I'm not going to make fun of you. Don't you be going around calling me a whore though for choosing to dress differently.

    Because I am an agnostic not a christian. I dress somewhat "sexily" and I do wear bikinis. I am not a whore, and if a man "sins" because he's seen me then he is weak minded. I am not responsible for someone else's problems. I am not someone who will have sex with anyone. I do not tempt people to tease them. I wear what I feel comfortable in and I do it for *myself*. I am not being dictated into dressing like a nun when I have no beliefs to tell me that I should. I don't think you should go around insulting people who don't follow your lifestyle and degrading us while still wanting people to respect yours. I won't make fun of you, so don't you put me down/ If you believe your path is the right one then be happy in that knowledge. From what I remember of the bible...isn't it not your place to judge others anyway? Isn't that god's responsibility and not yours?

    I'm 20, I'm sticking with my bikini and if I ever had a daughter she'd wear a one piece suit till she became older. I see tons of little girls in one pice swim shorts and I see nothing sexual or provocative about it.

    This is just amazing XD"


    Couldn't have said it better myself :)

  362. #362
    Nan said on November 11, 2009 | Reply

    Wow! I'm a Christian and I'm not judging at all. I'm really surprised by some of the comments. There are those Christians who think by wearing these particular bathing suits lets people know that they are Christian. I beg to differ, people should know you are a Christian by your actions, not just your apparel. This does not make you holy because you wear these. There are some folks that wear the prairie dresses and speak in tongues are just down right trifling and not truly living for Christ. YOUR CLOTHING DOES NOT MAKE YOU HOLY!

    I have no problem if a family decides to wear them because some bathing suits today just display too much and it's down right sad, BUT something a little more fashionable probably would be nice.

  363. #363
    caitlin said on December 16, 2009 | Reply

    I grew up in a Christian home and went to a VERY strict Baptist school till I graduated. I grew up with many girls with parents who chose to push a very "sheltered" life on them and would not allow public swimming, or "mixed bathing" as they call it. I am so disturbed by the parents who say things about there young girls like, She is waiting till marriage for sex, and she will never hold hands or kiss till her wedding day. Guess what? Ninety eight percent those girls parents were WRONG. There girls were at home agreeing with their parents on EVERYTHING they said but in reality there girls were doing all of the things there parents said they weren't. So many girls I went to school with had pastors for fathers and when their dads would preach they would say the same things these parents say, about waiting and such, and there daughters had already been sexual. Parents need to stop speaking for their daughters and fores them to live a double life. There is nothing wrong with modesty but don't try to brainwash your kids.

  364. #364
    Lisa said on February 5, 2010 | Reply

    I think it is wrong for everyone to be judging people who wear these bathing suits. I am one of them and I do not judge you for the clothing you wear. I ask for respect you don't have to agree with me. My modesty is my business and it's my right. If everyone here that had negative things to say, focused their attention or things that mattered, this world would be a better place.

  365. #365
    hannah rae said on February 21, 2010 | Reply

    ok im a 14 year old and i only wear modest clothing i am a mormon so we believe in wearing modest clothes but weve never gone this far and thats saying something. it is really hard to find a modest swimsuit that is cute and doesnt show to much these days. all the one peices are made for older women and all the swimsuits in my size are skimpy and reveling. this last summer i was able to find a tankini that covered my stomache and wasnt to low and was cute and my mom and dad approved of and that i didnt get made fun of becasue it was styleish. i personally wouldnt wear one of these suits but i do think it is a good idea i think that girls are pressured into wearing very tight and skimpy bikinis and i highly dislike it because lots of girls would like a modest swimsuit (not to this extreme) that they feel comfertable in and that is stylish and not a granny style i really think are country needs to re-evaluate are moral values and start making modest acceptable and popular instead of promoting girls at my age to be sluts and prostotutes.

  366. #366
    Anonymous said on February 26, 2010 | Reply

    OK, I have several brothers & sisters (6) & we're not your typical large family. AKA, we're not "super conservative". Don't get me wrong, we're devout Christians, but we listen to contemporary Christian music, including Christian rock, shop in malls and department stores & buy the latest styles. We're not allowed to wear concealing necklines, or really tight pants.

    Years ago we would wear one-piece swimsuits, then my Mom decided that we should wear shorts or skits with them. SO, now my sisters and I wear one-piece swimsuits with matching surf shorts, or a tankini top w/ shorts or a skirt. The shorts & skirt we wear are pretty short, but they are more modest than a stand alone one-piece. We almost always buy our suits from Lands End.

    We've also bought two suits from swimmodest.com. But they were hard to swim in, and we decided that we haven't been led to wear anything more modest than our Lands End suits. Although we would be willing to if the Lord convicted us further.

    I would definitely commend anyone I saw wearing one of these suits. These suits are more modest than my regular clothing, and I don't feel the need to wear one. But I definitely won't wear anything that reveals my chest or draws attention to my butt. For now, Lands End meets our needs.

  367. #367
    Ms. Jones replied to Sheryl on March 1, 2010 | Reply

    Thank you Sheryl for saying the absolute right thing! God bless you for taking a stand for what's right! It's been within the last year that I've finally surrendered to God's word and understand that as a Christian my life has got to change. Not just in talk and studying my Bible every day, but also in my outward appearance. That's why these swimsuits are right up my alley.
    I'm a single Mom, plus size, and hate swimming around others while wearing the traditional one piece suit. I cover my hair, wear dresses or long skirts, and wish more people were like this. 1 Corinthians 11 has become my favorite chapter lately. I may not be married, and never have been in fact, but I know that by dressing this way and becoming a living example of God's word that I am not only obeying God but bringing honor and respect to my family by doing so. My parents think it's great that I've decided to do this, even my Mom has gotten on board with me. Christian women of today have been terribly deceived by the world. And sadly some will never fully give themselves over to God and repent of their ways. This falling asleep has to happen and quite honestly there is nothing that we can do.

    God bless those that have yielded unto God!
    Love in Christ,
    Ms. Jones

  368. #368
    Tiffany said on April 13, 2010 | Reply

    I usually don't comment on these things but I'd like to here. Everyone has the right to wear what they want. To each his own so long as it's not hurting anyone else. I love the Lord too, but even in my walk with Him have I EVER came across anything that suggests a raped woman brought it on herself. Rape, divorce & perhaps even cancer are not new "fads". They have been happening since these swinsuits were originally made, back in the 1920's, even before hand. They weren't reported as much in the news in those times is the only difference. I beleive that Mr. Danz made this blog in honor of his family & opinions & that is all it should be for us who don't know him or eachother. God wants us to value the differences & beleifs in people. If women want to wear these, go for it, if women want to wear bikini's, go for it. Even though dating is not a "swimsuit" subject, there is nothing wrong with dating before marriage. Each person can make it as casual or not as they wish, but how do you know if you've found the right one if you only are "courting" one person! Yes, God will help you find His chosen for you, but you have th help Him by dating & looking around.

  369. #369
    sarah replied to Sheryl on April 19, 2010 | Reply

    there is nothing dirty or sinful about a womens body and if "christian" men cannot control themselves or their thoughts when looking at a female, that is the most pathetic thing i have ever heard. what a cop out.

  370. #370
    sarah replied to Scott on April 19, 2010 | Reply

    yes they call themselves christians yet they constantly judge others..

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    sarah replied to Becky on April 19, 2010 | Reply

    yea you're not judging the people who choose not to wear these hideous suits... then you say you just hold higher standards.. thats judging!! you people make me laugh!

  372. #372
    sarah replied to Karasu on April 19, 2010 | Reply

    God DOES love everyone.. it's called unconditional love. i wear a string bikini aswell and i am not ashamed of it .. its for swimming at the beach!!!! swimsuits should not be made into something dirty when its natural to wear them.

  373. #373
    Melanie said on May 19, 2010 | Reply

    Women and girls are so stupid. Please get yourself a copy of Every Mans Battle. Read it and let your daughters read it. To those that are going to hell it will be nonsense to those who are born again it will clear alot of things up. Most ladies including myself did not know the truth until reading this book. Yes, poeple if you cause another to sin you are in danger of hell fire.

  374. #374
    Amber replied to Martha on May 21, 2010 | Reply

    Martha, try a searh for modest swimwear on ebay. You will find a few styles (not htis exact one) and they are cheaper. Still very cute. I am trying to find a maternity one and having difficulty. This is the style I wear. I love it. I would rather people stare at the suit then at the cellulite on my thighs....lol. God bless and good luck in finding your duit.

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    anonymous said on May 24, 2010 | Reply

    I am a Christian. I am 13 years old, I am a girl. I am saving sex and my first kiss for my wedding and wedding night. Women shouldn't go around flaunting their bodies. Yes, guys do need self control, but we do need to make modesty important. A lot of people here have gotten really, well, kinda mean and nasty. These swimsuits are modest, and they look kinda comfortable. As a teen, it's hard to find modest swimwear, and I actually like these designs. Though they are exspensive (i checked out the website.).


    a lot of people here seem to be well, dissing modesty. No guy has a right to see anyone's private areas. I dress modestly normally (and i do have stuff that needs covering, blame an early puberty.). I want to hide my body and keep it covered for my future husband. I don't want boys using me to lust.

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    Lori said on May 25, 2010 | Reply

    This isn't about God, it's about feeling comfortable in what you are wearing while swimming! Geez!!

    I'm so tired of hell fire and damnation!! God is loving, not the monster some of you make HIM out to be.

    I'm looking for swimwear that cover my legs down to my knees if possible. My legs are not my strongest suit, however, I do have a flat tummy. So how do I cover my legs without making myself look bigger? This is why I'm here. For bathing suits, not to preach! I love GOD and HE loves us all, let's stop trying to be HIM!!

  377. #377
    Ruby replied to Samantha on May 31, 2010 | Reply

    this website just makes me laugh.. i check from time to time to see more of the comments about the swim outfits. LOL.

    I'm sure god is banging his head against a brick wall because the judgmental "christians" are getting it soooo wrong! LOL

  378. #378
    Jeremy said on June 1, 2010 | Reply

    @Lori:

    He is loving, yes, but it also depends on how you define "loving". Don't fool yourself. God will drag you through Hell if it is in His will, and He'll do it again and again to bring you closer to Him.

  379. #379
    Tiffany replied to Jeremy on June 2, 2010 | Reply

    Yes Jeremy he does do that to teach you lessons but I don't think that is what Lori is saying here.

  380. #380
    marie said on June 6, 2010 | Reply

    Has anyone ever thought that people can wear what they want? Just because you may have a different opinion doesnt mean that you have to dog on others. Sure to you it may be okay to wear a bikini, but to others its not okay. Dont judge a book by its cover.

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    leah said on June 7, 2010 | Reply

    well first, women don't cause men to sin. lol.
    and second, modesty is awesome! if you're not cool with showing off your body, then don't. however, no one should ever condemn someone for loving their body and being open and happy. some people are more comfortable being modest, some people are more comfortable in a bikini. a bikini doesn't make you less of a christian. if your god looks down on you for wearing one, we must be reading a different bible.

  382. #382
    Tiffany replied to leah on June 7, 2010 | Reply

    My sentiments exactly! Very well said Leah!

  383. #383
    Misti Minott replied to Deidra and Drew on June 24, 2010 | Reply

    I don't see anything wrong with this actually. You may think I am crazy, but being a Bible believing woman this is nothing short of what the traditions in the Bible were for a daughter.
    My husband is constantly stating that our daughters will live at home until they get married.
    In the Bible women lived with their Fathers until they were married. They didn't have a job, other than labor around the house. The woman was perfectly content with this because it was how things were run. Now, in this money hungry, I am woman hear me roar society, anything similiar to this is labeled as crazy!
    Well, let me be crazy, atleast I know I am pleasing my God.

  384. #384
    Misti Minott replied to kate on June 24, 2010 | Reply

    Actually, the Bible does talk about a woman being chaste and modest. I don't God put limitations on swimsuits. Why do you think He clothed Adam and Eve in the garden? Because they were uncovered (with what I imagine to look something like a bikini!!).
    If you don't wanna wear a swimsuit like this, then that is your perogitive, but why find fault with someone who believes in complete modesty?What is it hurting you?
    I am not sure what the point of making fun of these swimsuits is, but I think the Bible speaks about immaturity as well.

  385. #385
    Misti Minott said on June 24, 2010 | Reply

    I cannot believe some of the comments here.
    I am a Bible believing Christian and I believe in dressing modestly.
    The bottom line here is, these swimsuits were made and designed for women and girls like myself, who want to cover their bodies while swimming. If you don't like the swimsuits then that is your perogitive, but why find fault and mock those who do have a conviction about this?
    I am a 32 year old mother of 2 girls and one boy. I am actually getting ready to purchase myself and my girls one of these suits. They are not as bad as some are making them out to be. They are lightweight and are designed for easy swimming.
    We used to swim in a tshirt and long skirts and to be perfectly honest, that worked just fine as well.
    The Bible speaks about how a woman should conduct herself, whether is be in action, dress, or attitude. God made things pretty simple, I don't know why people have to make it so hard :)

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    mutuelle said on June 28, 2010 | Reply

    i like this blog, every human being has his/her own way to dress themselves when going to swin. i will surely never put this sort of swimsuits but i sincerely respect those who are for this model. people wear that they want..

  387. #387
    Lewis said on July 9, 2010 | Reply

    If God had meant for us to wear clothes, we would have been born with them. Modesty was caused by sin, before sin there was no modesty and no clothing. You folks need to pick up Genesis again.

  388. #388
    Anna said on August 5, 2010 | Reply

    I am 16 years old and grew up in a very strict house hold. At the age of 11 my friend gave me her old swim suite that was one of the above. I was thrilled at being able to retire my old, large tee shirt I had to swim in but also a little embarrassed about the way it looked. I never wore it on a beach only at friend's pools. I now wear swim shorts and a surf shirt. I would wear a different bathing suit if it wasn't for my body/ self esteem issues. But at the same time I wouldn't go completely naked and wear something very skimpy.
    You need to find the happy- medium in this situation.

  389. #389
    Chloe-Jane said on September 6, 2010 | Reply

    I think this blog aint good it judges others. My pen-pal has one of these, and thats her choice. I wear board shorts and a t shirt. People dont think i stand out, and it doesnt draw attention to me

  390. #390
    Michael Rochester said on September 30, 2010 | Reply

    I spend a lot of time in Sri Lanka which is 78% Buddist with Muslim, Hindu and Christian minorities but religion aside, culturally and in terms of modesty they are at least 50 years adrift from current Western attitudes…. which I find rather refreshing actually. Schoolgirls all wear crisp white knee length belted dresses with neck-ties (properly tied, not at half-mast). Women wear saris or long dresses or skirts and tops. All wear petticoats and some sort of vest / camisole top to ensure that clothing is not see-through. You never see a bra strap in his corner of the world, plunging necklines just don’t happen. Yet …despite all this modesty they still contrive to look absolutely lovely.

    People watching on the beach is an education. Western tourists compete to cover the essentials with the minimum amount of fabric while Sri Lankan families strolling the beach live in a different universe. Boys and men wear shorts and romp in the surf having enormously good fun, older ladies just stroll along chatting, young women and girls paddle in the shallows and the really daring ones go and get totally wet in whatever they happen to be wearing. If that happens to be a T-shirt and jeans then the result leaves little to the imagination, but oddly this is not seem as unacceptable.

    My pal’s new wife is a bright and attractive 27-year-old, quite daring in her way and is the owner of a ‘proper’ swimsuit (which she has not worn in public). She tells me that culturally it’s just ‘not on’ for a Sri Lankan woman/girl to take to the water… which I regard as modesty taken too far. There surely has to be potential for intelligently designed and attractive half-cover swimming dresses that allow freedom of movement while disguising the contours of the body. A student graduate project in the making …. Any takers? You could start a small social revolution out here!

  391. #391
    Colleen said on January 12, 2011 | Reply

    These swimsuits are acutally nice for larger women. I've seen women wear swimsuits that are not made for them and it isn't a pleasant experince for anyone at the beach. The suits would also be nice for women who are sun sensitive.

  392. #392
    Tina Sydney Australia said on February 16, 2011 | Reply

    Keep up the good work.
    Yes there is a market out there for swimwear that is modest. I know in Australia it is hard to find something that is a swimsuit and not just board shorts and a rash top. This year when looking for my daughter I noticed most of the board short were also very short. To buy something I had to turn to USA small christian companys or a few Sydney supplier of swimsuits for muslims .

    And just for the record I think Modesty is a great because (1) it is Gods way, (2) less chance of Cancer. And hey I dont want to see, as do a number of other people your h, and (3) spare me - I dont want to see your half naked body. Keep it for your home , and /or your husband.

    God Bless

  393. #393
    Sandra said on March 8, 2011 | Reply

    Since this has become the, and enduring, internet thread about Wholesome Wear, I thought I'd come here to aske this question:

    Has anyone tried putting iron ons on the Taslan jumper before? If so, how much success did you have? What type and brand of appliques did you use? What about just using an iron on the material? on high while it was wet? while it was dry?

    Any input would be appreciated, including about irons and other Taslan garments.

    Thank you,
    Sandra

  394. #394
    cherry said on June 1, 2011 | Reply

    i admire modesty, i also admire beauty. these are the ugliest, dowdy un feminine clothing i had the misfortune to see. it is possible to look nice and respectably modest. this swimwear just doesn't come up to par.

  395. #395
    Heretic said on March 18, 2012 | Reply

    Why stop here? Why not start wearing burkhas??? How nuts would anyone have to be to live like you do?

  396. #396
    elizabeth said on April 16, 2012 | Reply

    OMG!!!! My family and i are strong christians and we wear modest swimsuits, not boy shorts that go to our knees and loose t shirts... I find these hilarious!!!!! And yes i go swimming with my guy friends and my girl friends. Whats wrong with that??? I wear modest swimwear while still looking very fashionable. I wear tankinis and one pieces and i think those are pretty modest (compared to what most people wear these days) and i also wear monokinis(which i confess are a little on the edge:P) But seriously.... I would never be caught dead in these... No offense... Maybe boardshorts, but not these.

  397. #397
    Jennifer said on April 27, 2012 | Reply

    Sorry....some people dont care to show off their bodies to the world. Nothing wrong with it. I'd rather see covered then a hoochie showing too much. It is called convection, and morals....more people need them!

  398. #398
    Olivia said on April 28, 2012 | Reply

    Oh my god it's HIDEOUS!!!!!!! Yes I understand the whole modest is hottest thing but these suits are ridiculous. I believe that girls shouldn't be flashing their boobs like some slut in a nonexistent bikini but don't you think this is taking it a little too far? And all you people who are saying people can tell your a Christian by what you wear come on!!!!!!!! People should be able to tell you're a Christian by your actions and words. You can't look at somebody wearing whatever this is and say "Oh she is a woman of god" or look at a girl in a modest two piece and say she is a slut and is of the devil or doesn't believe in God. Board shorts and a modest bikini top or tankini seems good enough

  399. #399
    Bethany Maricle said on July 26, 2012 | Reply

    Why are good-hearted, committed Christian people being attacked for doing what the Holy Spirit has led them to do? Do you people have nothing better for your lives then criticizing someone who is willing to put their faith into action? At least they are trying to be a light shining, not just blending into the darkness of this world.

    So you may feel it looks goofy. But why do you think it is goofy? Because you have been indocrinated and programmed by the influences of the world in your lives. At one time, the world said these types of suits were extreme. Yet, now society says that wearing what is no better than your underclothes is acceptable. And what do Christians do? Follow right along.

    I greatly respect this family for doing what they feel led by God is right, even if it means great personal sacrifice and brings the ridicule of other "Christians" upon their heads. These are truly courageous people. Even if someday God tells them in Heaven they went further away from the world's influences than they had to, I believe that God will reward them an even greater abundance than He will their mockers, because they're willingness to give up comfort, other's approval, fitting in, etc. shows their level of love for Christ. They have been willing to lay it all on the line for Him, and He is undoubtedly exceedingly pleased.

    How much have you, my mocking friends, been willing to lay down for your Savior? How willing are you to be made a laughing stock for your love of Christ? What right have you to pass judgement on someone who has placed the standards in their life as high as they can so that their light may shine even brighter for the Lord?

    Instead of ridiculing your brother or sister in Christ, why not spend that time sharing the Gospel with someone who is lost. Or why not read a Bible story to your child? Or why not just read your Bible period (you may just be surprised how much God agrees with these folks)? Or why not spend time in prayer asking God to show you where the world is controlling your own life? Or why not go clean your church? Or why not get a life for God?

    Amen & Amen!!!

  400. #400
    David said on August 7, 2012 | Reply

    I'm a 16 and a competitive swimmer and I wear speedos (briefs) when in swim practice and above the knee boardshorts at the beach. I don't see why people are so uncomfortable showing their body in public. If you have the goods feel free to flaunt it. Instead of feeling weird when people stare at you, feel flattered and let that build your self esteem. You shouldn't feel like you're giving yourself away when you show yourself to someone other than your spouse. Shameful sex is a wrong mentality to have. Every organism has one instinctual program in common-- to reproduce and make sure your species survives. All men have penises and all women have vaginas, so why do you care if they're slightly visible? And why do you care if people find you sexually attractive? It's natural.
    And about the swimsuits-- I think they look dumb and a little overboard. If you wear a one piece that's okay, but a Lycra sack?

  401. #401
    To David said on August 9, 2012 | Reply

    David, according to the Bible, nudity is sinful. Modest clothing is not just for church, but it should be worn everywhere. If swimming forces you to wear immodest clothing, it would be best to quit doing it. I am going to recommend two books, in addition to your Bible which is always our primary text, to help guide you:

    The Look: Does God Really Care What I Wear? by Nancy Leigh DeMoss and Christian Modesty and the Public Undressing of America by Jeff Pollard.

  402. #402
    David replied to To David on August 14, 2012 | Reply

    Actually it's not. The bible has been twisted by people promoting their own agendas as the Bible is probably the most powerful tool ever created.
    Read http://blacksbeach.org/bible.html if you don't believe me. Keep in mind that the Bible was originally written in Hebrew, and anyone translating it can bend the words to fit their ideals. Also, the Bible is in some parts allegorical so it can be interpreted many ways based on what the speaker wants you to believe.
    About swimming -- I choose to wear the swimsuits that I do, and so does everyone else on the team. And many of the swimmers go to a Christian private school as well.

  403. I think this is the style William is referring to. Many of the boys and men that swim outdoors in my community use this style. They permit full movement and do not drag swimmers down with surplus material. Also terrific for cooler water.

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